Official Denon AVP-A1HD/AVP-A1HDCI and POA-A1HD/POA-A1HDCI owners thread. - Page 736

My wife's leg. She tried to do a 'Bambi', and failed .....

Deck

Very true, but you're even forgetting the one thing you don't control: the recording/production!

The best sounding album (out of the 4,200) I own is a 24/96 download of a Vinyl rip. It's the 2011 reissue of Serge Gainsbourg "Histoire de Melody Nelson". I believe the recording is from 1971. I have Jamo R909 speakers and I hope one day I can put them in our new house we are building. The R909 will be in a very large open plan room and I planned an acoustic ceiling in the sitting area. I will put in 4" thick fiber glas stuffed sound absorbers.

For the rest: I'd be happy to buy a used AVP for our HT...

That too is a problem, GIGO.

Doing a bambi , what does that mean is it a real move like this :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipcFKvERuZs

or more like ehmm bambi like this :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0n9HybvDOw

we need to know !.

Daniel.

PS: dealer called kit is delayed/out of stock for a few weeks ... sigh...

Just an update on my AVP upgrade performed by Darvish Systems in Richardson, TX:

These guys did great! As a recap, the kit arrived in 3 business days after I ordered/paid for it. I dropped off the AVP this past Saturday. They told me to expect it to take a week. They actually called me today (Monday) to tell me it was ready. Talk about fast turn around! I requested to put the stickers on myself (kinda anal about that stuff) and they obliged. The took good care of the AVP, it was returned in the exact same condition as I dropped off.

If your service center does not seem to be working out, I'd recommend giving these guys a call and shipping your AVP to them. I could not ask for a better experience.

I was able to hook everything up and set up the inputs, but won't run the Audyssey until tomorrow. Seems to work just fine, except it won't recognize my wired LAN connection. I realize it should recognize LAN vs WiFi upon start up, but it doesn't. It sees my WiFi, even without antenna, so I know the NIC card is working. Maybe I need to turn off static IP in the router and let the AVP turn on to a DHCP LAN IP?

Wow - what a contrast! My dealer collected my AVP a week ago and I helped pack it together with the upgrade board. It still hasn't left the shop to go to the service centre!!! Your dealer isn't an option but I wish he was

That's ridiculous,customer service is getting beyond a joke in this country,mine was turned around quickly so they must be busy but that's no excuse,when you pay top money it's right to expect top service.

I'm glad this process went so easily for you. Meanwhile, in AZ I paid for the upgrade in full what will be 4 weeks ago this coming Saturday and still no kit or word on when they expect it I talked to them again last Saturday and they couldn't tell me why it hasn't been shipped or when it is expected to arrive. I told them if the kit didn't arrive this week I was going to pull the plug on the whole thing. Getting a refund on my Visa should be a fun experience if it doesn't arrive (which I don't expect it to).

I'm not sure how much it costs in the UK, but here the upgrade is $999 + tax/ship, so about $1100. This is indeed top money, especially considering most around here don't even spend that much for a brand new receiver! However, after talking with my service company, and knowing A/V markups, I doubt there is more than $200 in profit for the service provider. Even $200 is no reason for them to treat you with anything less than total respect and promptness, but it's not the big cash grab that it might appear as.


Man, that sucks. It is crazy to think that I have an upgraded AVP back in my rack just over one week after I gave them my payment. I was prepared to be out of service for ~2 weeks. I think I just got lucky.

I'm going to run XT32 setup tonight. Am I the only person who is going to use the SVS AS-EQ1 in combination with XT32/updated AVP? I know it might seem redundant, but I'm not sure I'll even like XT32 on the main channels (I don't like regular XT). I think the AS-EQ1 does wonders for the sub channel, as I typically run all sources in DIRECT or DSD MCH DIRECT mode.

The UK charge is £1200 which equals $1890 - top, top, top money I fear!

I'll be calibrating my AVP with the Audyssey pro kit for the first time this evening,will be interesting to hear if it can improve upon the already superb XT32 ?

Yikes! I will assume that your profession pays 90%+ more than the equivalent one the US


What would be the advantages of the Pro Kit, now that XT32 is available? Better mic?

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Better mic (+/- 0.5db vs. +/-2db), more mic positions (up to 32), and ability to save various Audyssey configurations .... essentially the same benefit it provides with the XT version ... more fine tuning capability of the on board version of Audyssey.

I'm in the UK too, took mine 4 weeks to get upgraded, one week for the box to be delivered, another week before it was collected, about a week to get it upgraded and the final week back to me.
It was worth it though, they did a good job and my AVP returned in the same condition it left.
Bear with it, you'll be glad you did. Check out Troll Hunter after you get it back and calibrated with the MX32, pretty amazing sound in this movie, e.g. when the first troll is in the forest.

Mine just did the same thing!!! It's been about 2-3 weeks since my upgrade and I lost all my settings. I was able to load a saved configuration, but unfortunately, I had completed a new calibration since the last save so I will need to run Audyssey again.

Thanks sheridd2. That's encouraging. I think I expected it to take a long time so I'm not surprised at the speed so far.

Jason,

I am looking forward to your findings. I have been thinking about getting Pro.

Brad

+1

Last night I performed a quick 7 point calibration with the Audyssey pro kit,I didn't have time to give it a good listen & I intend to get a long USB cable so I can sit in comfort in the next room & do more mic positions.

The interesting thing is that users who have upgraded have noted it's now noticeably louder for a given master volume setting,now having run pro its set my trims 4db lower than using the onboard calibration ie my centre speaker is now -10db where it was -6 with the onboard,this has put the levels back to roughly where they were before using XT / onboard calibration.

I'll report back once I've done a full calibration & a good listen.

I strongly suggest you run XT32 in the standard fashion and give it a listen. It is much better than XT at retaining subtle audiophile SQ characteristics so there is no longer a trade-off in the high end IME. Also, when you A/B to Direct mode, be sure to check with a SPL to be sure XT32 vs Direct are level-matched-mine are off by several dB. That influences perception significantly.

As to advantages to the Pro kit, see this post on the Pro thread. It refines the SQ, adds customizability, etc.

Great post & excellent idea using the before graph to optimise speaker positions,have you tried using the curve without midrange comp ?

The issues I had were definitely tonal vs. level, but I understand your point.

I didn't get to run the XT32 setup last night, maybe tonight.

OK, I'm officially a convert of XT32

Over the past several years, I've made references to how much I hated XT. I used it first on my Denon AVR-4806CI, at two different houses. When I got the AVP, I tried it again. Each time I made full efforts at serious mic placement, background noise removal, etc. Each time, I was met with the same results: XT just added a weird hollow sound that was always worse than my system was "flat". Maybe I was blessed with good speakers and decent room acoustics? Either way, XT was always good about calculating distances and levels, so I knew it wasn't totally worthless.

Even better, I bought the SVS ASEQ-1, and absolutely fell in love with the sound improvements it made for my M&K MX-150THX sub. As much as I enjoy being a "purist", I still knew there were some things that room correction was useful for.

So here I am all these years later, updating the AVP for the main reason that I know the one day the kits will no longer be available, and I'll need some of the features eventually.

I had time tonight to run XT32 twice, and do some A/B'ing on some 5.1 SACDs, including James Taylor's "JT". This one in particular allows me to focus on vocal clarity and soundstage. Incredibly, the XT32 provided for a more realistic, less-pinched sound, especially in the vocals. Every time I A/B'd, I always preferred the XT32 implementation over DSD Direct. I'm a bit shocked myself, but sat down and listened for a few hours straight because I enjoyed it so much.

I still think there are some improvements to be had, if only because my brain can't comprehend how a (seemingly) $3 mic can get good measurements for EQ application. So, I'm think I'm going to sell my SVS-ASEQ1, and invest in a Pro Kit. I know you can call Audyssey and get a license for $150, but how in the world do I find a kit to buy?

Also, for the AVP: is there a direct button sequence I can use to toggle Dynamic Volume On/Off? Someone might recommend the Quick Select button, but I'm still not even really sure how to accomplish a toggle effect with QS 1/2/3.

Here is where I bought my Audyssey Pro kit from.


http://www.shop.perfecthometheater.c...words=audyssey

Great, thank you! And just call Audyssey after the kit arrives to ask them to sell me a license?

You register you're kit on the Audyssey website & buy the license on there too,it's all painless & I think the pro kit is a worthwhile investment,nice to see graphs of results too.

question once you buy that kit and so forth is only supported for 1 device or can you use it across multiple devices???

I think the alot of problems people when doing placement measurments, is you really need a device to find dead center of a room and off axis of 30 degrees off center then head height measures..

You can use the kit for as many devices as you like but you need to buy a license for each device.

Across brands as well (Denon, Marantz, Integra, Onkyo, NAD) ... as long as the device is Audyssey Pro capable ....

http://www.audyssey.com/products?fie...earch+Products

AFAIK, not via the remote; however, you can do it via the "Dynamic EQ" button on the front panel. Otherwise, there are Dyn Volume discrete codes available if using a Harmony remote or RS-232 type remote.

Using a Quick Select button, you would set Dynamic Volume to ON and at a specific setting (ie. Day, Evening, Midnight) and then re-memorize the Quick Select button used for that source by pressing/holding the button for several seconds. You could then use another Quick Select button to set it to OFF for that same source.