Official Denon AVP-A1HD/AVP-A1HDCI and POA-A1HD/POA-A1HDCI owners thread. - Page 744

It's only on the .1 channel, which many SACD's don't even use. That could explain why you haven't noticed it.

All I can say is that the recent SACD firmware update on my none upgraded AVP (no XT32) made a huge difference to all my SACD's bass performance, irrespective of the 0.1 channel use.

Well now I'm even more confused. Gene said it was present on 2ch SACD, when you engage bass management, so I'd assume it would manifest itself even without the .1 channel if you crossover your mains like I do.

I'm pretty sure Brothers In Arms has an LFE channel, there's some serious bass in quite a few tracks. Conversely I did listen to a Nat King Cole SACD which seemed weak on bass but I just chalked it up to the original recording from back then.

It's always possible I either misunderstood the SACD bass issue or mixed it up with something else I'm looking into .

I am using subs with bass mangement and I am not aware of any of my SACD's activley using the 0.1 channel, as most are just stereo.

Man, do yourself a favor and find a better multichannel SACD to listen to. That one is mixed well, but compressed like crazy!

Any recommendations to check out the upgrade?

Hi Digione
Any update on the B surround experiment at Denon since your PM? I know it didn't look good but was wondering if you had heard any news that could be hopeful.

Even if that's the case, I couldn't care less, it sounds better than my vinyl or redbook CD versions on most tracks. It's a reference disc for me because I know it so well, and I love the music. The latter being the reason I listen to music in the first place.

Hi, i have just ordered myself an OPPO bdp95 to use with my AVPA!HDA and i would like to ask others with one of these how is best to connect it to my AVP for music listening? I cant decide between analogue via balanced or just using HDMI via bitstream and letting the avp to the processing. Which dacs are best and which will sound better? I dont want to waste money on balanced cables if the avp will do a better job via hdmi. All advice appreciated.

I also have another question, The oppo has 2 x hdmi outputs and i have an external video processor (dvdo iscan duo with CMS). should i run 1 hdmi for video only to the DUO and another audio only to the AVP for the best sound quality or will one cable be best? i thought seperating the audio and video on hdmi would be the preferred route, what do you think?

You must try both solution and decide for yourself.
That said getting a BDP95 and not using the analog stage is a waste of money. The BDP93 would have done the job just fine over HDMI.


Yes separating the streams is best solution.
Oppo setup HDMI source direct (try also 1080p and decide if you prefer the DUO's or the Oppo's video processing), 4:2:2 and DeepColor OFF. All color processing must be done with the DUO.

4.2.2 is that the setting for the oppo to the duo? or the output from the duo? I have had some trouble deciding the best way to use my duo in my system. I have a pioneer krp600 display and i decided to use the pc mode on the display via hdmi for the cleanest rgb signal. I have noticed owever that there is something not quite right on the test card from the duo for judder, it judders slightly and isnt completely smooth. im tempted to go back to the normal mode on the display but i didnt want to double process the picture.

The way i do it is from oppo(audio and video) to duo and than from duo video out to projector and audio out to AVP.

Folks

If I were to buy a "standard" non A version, can it be updated to the A version by a FW update? If it is an update, will it automatically show-up over network connection or do you have to download from Denon? I'm hoping early owners didn't have to do some hardware exchange like to get the A version features.

And this SACD fix you're discussing - is it also an auto download over network or do you have to specifically download it? Have you confirmed it is only for pre-upgraded units? It would seem you'd want to apply it 1st before upgraded if you had the chance.

I know at one time, Denon put FW on its web site but that hasn't been the case for quite some time - looks like you have to enter your serial # to gain access to any FW.

I have another audyssey question but I'll post it in the audyssey thread

I exchanged e-mails with Denon HQ on Friday and they said that they would run a few more tests this week as the member of staff doing them was out last week. They did not sound very hopeful.

As soon as I get a definitive answer I will let all know.

Steve.. IIRC, the A updates for the 5308 and AVP were/are FW based..

I don't remember Denon ever having AVR updates downloadable (I remember all of the DVD and BR player updates though ) but all of the Denon AVR's I've owned have needed network connections for FW, and also IIRC, the A update was/is free...

Too many AVR's in my past... hope someone else can verify/clarify..

Any of the James Taylor MCH SACDs, Dylan's Slow Train Coming, Ryan Adams "Gold" SACD, there are a lot.


I have a BDP-95. The AVP is so good with HDMI, you might want to go that route, first.

You can run a separate cable to the AVP, and one to the Duo.

not sure on the hdmi port support, though from my understanding both ports relate to multiregion settings for the player, not sure if other hdmi features span over the both ports on the oppo so dual monitor in the way you're thinking may not be possible..

The 2 HDMI outputs on the current Oppo players have nothing to do with multi-region settings.

The primary purpose of the 2 ports is for situations where the AVR doesn't support 3D, but the TV does. In such a situation, you would usually send HDMI1 directly to the display and HDMI2 to the AVR, making sure the Oppo is setup for HDMI1 as the primary. In this case, HDMI2 contains audio and video when watching 2D and audio with a black video feed when watching 3D material, allowing the AVR to handle the audio properly in both cases. The HDMI1 output can also take advantage of the Marvell QDEO video processing - HDMI2 uses the MediaTek video processing (which actually does a pretty good job). When the player is set to Source Direct, the video processing is pretty much completely off (there are a few minor caveats that I don't know the exact details of that would be best explored in the appropriate Oppo thread).

An alternative use of the 2 ports could be for use of an external video processor if it's desired to take the AVR out of the loop entirely for the video duties. In that case, I'd go with HDMI1 to the video processor, HDMI2 to the AVR, set HDMI1 as the primary, and select Source Direct.

In my case, I'm just connecting HDMI1 from my BDP-95 to my Denon AVP (with the 3D / XT32 upgrade), turning off video processing in the AVP, and sending the AVP output to my display.

That is the exact same set up/gear that I run, too. Doesn't get much better.

well what oppo told me was different when I enquired about the multi region aspect of the unit. to my understanding 1 port was configure for ntsc use and the other was configured for pal use. maybe this since changed since i lastenquired about 93 and 95 roughly about 3-6 month's ago

as for 3d use wouldn't know

Both outputs are capable of supporting PAL or NTSC and nothing about that has changed during the lifecycle of the product (as a beta tester, I've had a BDP-93 or BDP-95 since before they were on the market). Most likely, you misunderstood what they told you.

To do region setting change its by pressing a button on your remote and selecting a different region by selecting another button on your remote. Its been awhile since I've done it you should of received a set of instructions.

What does PAL and NTSC have to do with region coding?

pal/ntsc more or less relates to the country you live in..

I live in Australia so you could say i live in a country the pal defintiion for tv transport, where a someon who lives in the USA ntsc as a tv medium...

dvd regioning for australia is region 2/4 pal..

True but keep in mind that some countries use video encoding with other Zone locks.

For example Japan use NTSC and they are DVD Zone 2, NTSC should be Zone 1 (USA and Canada)

All DVD and BR players can read NTSC or PAL, the limit is always related to Zone or Region not the video encoding.

It was a rhetorical question.. they have nothing to do with each other, and you were already corrected about your false statement months ago.

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You're correct, what I can't remember is if it was free or not, pretty sure it was, but wouldn't swear on a stack of bibles.

The SACD thing if I read it correctly was fixed for "non-3D-upgraded" units via FW.

Hi All,

So I have just managed to get my AVP upgraded to the 3D version a month ago, and for the record I have to say it was well worth the cost, and today my wife hits me with the news that her job is being relocated to the U.S during the summer. So after the euphoria and panic of realizing we need to move in a couple of months my immediate attention shifted to my babies.

Does anyone have any experience of taking european 220V/50Hz AVP, POA and DVD-A1 equipment to the U.S. and using it with step down converters? Would my AVP or DVD-A1 not mind the 50 to 60Hz change? I have looked at the wattages and looks like there are ample step down transformers that can handle that amperage but the frequency change is worrying me a little. I would hate to have to sell them and then end up having to buy again when we get there.

Any help would be very much appreciated.

Depending on what you'll be living in (renting or owning), you could install a 220V circuit in the room your gear will be in. I'd be a lot more concerned about potential issues with the frequency change - Denon should be able to give you an answer on whether this will be a problem or not.