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Originally Posted by Waboman View Post

Waiting for you. Lead the way.

Don't wait for me. Do it, seriously.
post #22622 of 25091
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Originally Posted by Waboman View Post

I know and I hear ya, Sam. I've been running all the pro's thru my head. It's gonna be a major PITA just getting the AVP out and ready. Then the cost. I dunno... Still waffling.

Don't wait too long, eventually the kits will be all gone.
post #22623 of 25091
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Originally Posted by sam s View Post


considering how small of a % of the original msrp of the avp upgrade is, i consider it a decent value.

Fwiw, the updated dsp chips/decoders provide an improvement, even on straight/direct/pure direct mode. I would definitely do the upgrade again, in a heartbeat.

+1!
post #22624 of 25091
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Originally Posted by Waboman View Post

I know and I hear ya, Sam. I've been running all the pro's thru my head. It's gonna be a major PITA just getting the AVP out and ready. Then the cost. I dunno... Still waffling.

All the cool kids have upgraded AVP's this year.
post #22625 of 25091
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Originally Posted by Sam S View Post

Considering how small of a % of the original MSRP of the AVP upgrade is, I consider it a decent value.

FWIW, the updated DSP chips/decoders provide an improvement, even on straight/Direct/Pure Direct mode. I would definitely do the upgrade again, in a heartbeat.

I've studied what the upgrade is and never made the connection that it would improve pure direct, which is what I use for vinyl.
post #22626 of 25091
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Originally Posted by niualaals94 View Post

I know this has been talked about ad nasuem in several threads, but how many of you are having GOOD LUCK using the Hamony One rmote with controlling the AVP?

I use it, and for my needs it works fine. I haven't really explored what it can do beyond setting up activities though.
post #22627 of 25091
While the "new AVP" sounds really good, I'm running into a wall right now. I can't run audyssey. It keeps saying that I have a different device...

I run audyssey via parallel on a Mac. I never had issues before. My guess is that perhaps I need to run it off a boot camp and upgrade audyssey to 3.5 from v3. I hope thou, that's the issue.
post #22628 of 25091
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Originally Posted by niualaals94 View Post

I know this has been talked about ad nasuem in several threads, but how many of you are having GOOD LUCK using the Hamony One rmote with controlling the AVP?

I use the Harmony One with my AVP.
post #22629 of 25091
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Originally Posted by Sam S View Post

Don't wait too long, eventually the kits will be all gone.

I too want to upgrade to XT32 but I am a surround B user. Denon USA tells me that the new H/W pre-outs (old surround B) can still be assigned to/in parallel with, the Surround A pre outs. If this is true I can still operate two sets of surrounds as the XT32 EQ goes with the assignment and I will not be using H/W speakers.

Could somebody who has done the upgrade PLEASE confirm if you can assign the H/W pre outs to the surround A pre out. The new upgrade manual does not address the assignments for the AVP only the 5308 and I have lost my patience waiting for a response from Denon Japan.

If the assignment works then its of to Panurgy in NJ for the upgrade.
post #22630 of 25091
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Originally Posted by Digione View Post

I too want to upgrade to XT32 but I am a surround B user. Denon tells me that the new H/W pre-outs (old surround B) can still be assigned to/in parallel with, the Surround A pre outs. If this is true I can still operate two sets of surrounds as the XT32 EQ goes with the assignment and I will not be using H/W speakers.

Could somebody who has done the upgrade PLEASE confirm if you can assign the H/W pre outs to the surround A pre out. The new upgrade manual does not address the assignments for the AVP only the 5308 and I have lost my patience waiting for a response from Denon Japan.

If the assignment works then its of to Panurgy in NJ for the upgrade.

I'd try it for you but my room is under construction and won't be done for a while yet. I will be using the Wides when I finally get finished so it will be a simple matter for me - just not sure when I will be able to try it.
post #22631 of 25091
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Originally Posted by WillyJ View Post

I'd try it for you but my room is under construction and won't be done for a while yet. I will be using the Wides when I finally get finished so it will be a simple matter for me - just not sure when I will be able to try it.

Thanks WillyJ, is there a second taker?
post #22632 of 25091
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Originally Posted by Sam S View Post

I use the Harmony One with my AVP.

It is the ONLY remote I have ever used with the AVP - the one that comes with the AVP is really horrible.

I use the H1 for everything. My only complaint with it is the touch screen doesn't work too well sometimes with my big fingers.
post #22633 of 25091
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Originally Posted by Digione View Post

I too want to upgrade to XT32 but I am a surround B user. Denon USA tells me that the new H/W pre-outs (old surround B) can still be assigned to/in parallel with, the Surround A pre outs. If this is true I can still operate two sets of surrounds as the XT32 EQ goes with the assignment and I will not be using H/W speakers.

Could somebody who has done the upgrade PLEASE confirm if you can assign the H/W pre outs to the surround A pre out. The new upgrade manual does not address the assignments for the AVP only the 5308 and I have lost my patience waiting for a response from Denon Japan.

I am holding out due to the Surround B issue too! If there is a workaround, I'm on the upgrade wagon, but otherwise, no go.
post #22634 of 25091
I noticed that McIntosh has recently come out with a new "value" line of components. Of particular interest is the MX121 pre/pro and the MC8207 amp. The pre/pro appears to be loosely based on the Marantz AV7005 but with significant upgrades. List price is $6K for the pre/pro and $6K for the amp. XT32 seems to be missing though.

They don't threaten the AVP/POA in my opinion but I sure would have considered the pair BEFORE I bought my AVP - I have some big time man love with those McIntosh products and boy do they look good.

http://www.mcintoshlabs.com/us/Produ...roductId=MX121

http://www.mcintoshlabs.com/us/Produ...oductId=MC8207
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The MX121 is the first McIntosh pre/pro to use any type of Audyssey. Their MX150 uses RoomPerfect by Lyngdorf.
post #22636 of 25091
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Originally Posted by Franin View Post

Don't wait for me. Do it, seriously.

Brotha Franin needs to light the way.

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Originally Posted by Sam S View Post

Don't wait too long, eventually the kits will be all gone.

Any word on how long Denon will offer the upgrade?

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Originally Posted by gsr View Post

All the cool kids have upgraded AVP's this year.

Lol. Yeah, I'm stuck on the sideline with the waterboy.
post #22637 of 25091
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Originally Posted by Waboman View Post

The MX121 is the first McIntosh pre/pro to use any type of Audyssey. Their MX150 uses RoomPerfect by Lyngdorf.

What's the difference between room perfect and Audyssey? Which is better?

Btw waboman have you ever considered into one of the Mcintosh MX150 or the MX121 to match your highend Mcintosh gear?
post #22638 of 25091
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Originally Posted by Waboman View Post

Brotha Franin needs to light the way.

Don't have a torch nor matches


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Yeah, I'm stuck on the sideline with the waterboy.

Lol and I his assistance. In all honesty waboman do it trust me you won't regret it.
post #22639 of 25091
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Originally Posted by DoctorO View Post

I am holding out due to the Surround B issue too! If there is a workaround, I'm on the upgrade wagon, but otherwise, no go.

Out of all those brave soles that have done the XT32 upgrade, is there not one of you who can go to the pre-out assignment menu and check to see if you can accomplish this assignment using the revised graphical assignment interface?

I am looking for confirmation as to what Denon USA told me as I have more confidence in the end users on this thread.
post #22640 of 25091
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Originally Posted by Digione View Post

Thanks WillyJ, is there a second taker?

My understanding is that you can assign any channel to whatever speaker. I did not try that with audyssey engaged (not set it up yet), but it's doable I would think.

...And I mean, I did assign my surround as front speakers, just to test, and they played the same signal as the front.
I only have 4 speakers in my system....
post #22641 of 25091
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Originally Posted by Digione View Post

Out of all those brave soles that have done the XT32 upgrade, is there not one of you who can go to the pre-out assignment menu and check to see if you can accomplish this assignment using the revised graphical assignment interface?

I am looking for confirmation as to what Denon USA told me as I have more confidence in the end users on this thread.

I just checked and the pre-out assignment you're asking for can be made. How the Audyssey XT32 calibration deals with it is another matter though (does it calibrate them separately or treat them as a single combined speaker?).
post #22642 of 25091
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I have some big time man love with those McIntosh products and boy do they look good.

I agree on the looks, but boy do you ever have to pay for them.
post #22643 of 25091
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Originally Posted by gsr View Post

I just checked and the pre-out assignment you're asking for can be made. How the Audyssey XT32 calibration deals with it is another matter though (does it calibrate them separately or treat them as a single combined speaker?).

Thank you orologio and gsr.

That is good news as it means that I will be able to use the H/W output as a second surround output.
Even though Denon USA ran tests and believes that the XT32 EQ applied to each of the the H/W speakers follows their assignments (not their H/W processing) they are waiting to hear back from Denon engineering in Japan for confirmation.
If the above two issues are true then you can still use the H/W outputs as a second surround output by running the EQ routine with the H/W speakers setup in the surround B position, assigning them to surround A and then powering the appropraite surrounds up as you need them.

Can anybody see a flaw to this approach?

I so want to do this upgrade....heres hoping.
post #22644 of 25091
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Originally Posted by Digione View Post

Thank you orologio and gsr.

That is good news as it means that I will be able to use the H/W output as a second surround output.
Even though Denon USA ran tests and believes that the XT32 EQ applied to each of the the H/W speakers follows their assignments (not their H/W processing) they are waiting to hear back from Denon engineering in Japan for confirmation.
If the above two issues are true then you can still use the H/W outputs as a second surround output by running the EQ routine with the H/W speakers setup in the surround B position, assigning them to surround A and then powering the appropraite surrounds up as you need them.

Can anybody see a flaw to this approach?

I'll let you try it first! If it was simply reassigning freely, I would think Denon documentation would state it that way instead of saying that Surround B was no longer awailable...
post #22645 of 25091
Really have not listened to the AVP much, and the family had a fit with me tonight when the dialogue (center) channel on a BluRay disc was way below the effects and music (mains and surrounds), via HDMI thru the AVP. Just recently did an Audyssey Pro calibration and verified channel levels with a dB meter. So what's going on here? It was also an issue before I got the pro, with the regular calibration.

Help!
post #22646 of 25091
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Originally Posted by DoctorO View Post

Really have not listened to the AVP much, and the family had a fit with me tonight when the dialogue (center) channel on a BluRay disc was way below the effects and music (mains and surrounds), via HDMI thru the AVP. Just recently did an Audyssey Pro calibration and verified channel levels with a dB meter. So what's going on here? It was also an issue before I got the pro, with the regular calibration.

Help!

Is your unit upgraded? What surround mode were you using? SJ
post #22647 of 25091
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Originally Posted by DoctorO View Post

Really have not listened to the AVP much, and the family had a fit with me tonight when the dialogue (center) channel on a BluRay disc was way below the effects and music (mains and surrounds), via HDMI thru the AVP. Just recently did an Audyssey Pro calibration and verified channel levels with a dB meter. So what's going on here? It was also an issue before I got the pro, with the regular calibration.

Help!


There is no simple way to say what's going on or causing your problem, there could be a multitude of reasons for this. Your room setup, speaker placements, the method of how you are running the Audyssy calibration, your microphone placements when running the Audyssey calibration.

You would probably have much better luck getting this problem solved by asking it in one of the dedicated Audyssey threads. You should also be prepared to provide them with room pictures if if at all possible if asked for.

For those who have their own Audyssey pro installer kit, here is that thread.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1346723

For those who only have the built in Audyssey, here is the thread for that.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=795421
post #22648 of 25091
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Originally Posted by DoctorO View Post

Really have not listened to the AVP much, and the family had a fit with me tonight when the dialogue (center) channel on a BluRay disc was way below the effects and music (mains and surrounds), via HDMI thru the AVP. Just recently did an Audyssey Pro calibration and verified channel levels with a dB meter. So what's going on here? It was also an issue before I got the pro, with the regular calibration.

Help!

Check using the test signals, mine had that after the upgrade, we had to do a hard reset several times to make it go away. There was a 8dB drop on the center for no logical reason. At some point (we are not sure how) it was ok again around 2dB diff with the mains. Been using it now for months no problems.

Daniel.
post #22649 of 25091
Yeah i remember this daniel. How do you explain that you got rid of it with multiple hard resets?
Isn"t it a bit strange ? at least?
I mean it should go away right of the first hard reset.


John.
post #22650 of 25091
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Originally Posted by SJHT View Post

Is your unit upgraded? What surround mode were you using? SJ

Not upgraded yet--a Surround B holdout! The soundtrack was a DTS Master through an Oppo 93 over HDMI.
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