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post #23431 of 25955
THANKS!

The wireless HD to replace an HDMI cable is good to know. I just ran the HDMI cable for the media room I am building. I have been debating between a permanent drywall ceiling and a suspended ceiling. The drywall costs less but I was worried about what i would do if I ever needed to run more wire or change a cable. Looks like wire for low power applications may finally be on the way out.

To hi-jack your contribution I thought I ought mention that I had Huppins (One-Call) in Spokane do my upgrade. I had bought it from them several months ago and asked them to hold it but as I recall it came in stock less than 2 weeks; they held for me until I was ready to install (it's a long story--I moved from Illinois to Idaho). They did the install overnight and had been willing to do it in one day of I got the AVP there before 10AM. I told them to take their time because I didn't want to sit around Spokane all day. They told that they had done 3 or 4 of the AVP upgrades. Huppins has an excellent service dept. Of course I couldn't check their work since the HT room isn't done. Maybe by Christmas we will be trying out the upgrade.

For now I need to order some drywall....thanks again
Edited by AudioBear - 9/8/12 at 7:15pm
post #23432 of 25955
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Originally Posted by rnrgagne View Post

The only unit I'd consider would be a NAD M15HD if they added XT32 Pro. But "consider" is about all I'd really do, got everything I need with the "hug-able" AVP! wink.gif

I agree with you their rnr. I had the power amp of the master series and it was really nice gear.
post #23433 of 25955
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Originally Posted by Waboman View Post

My upgraded AVP and I are in it for the long haul. In fact, I'm gonna give her a big ol' hug tonight.

Spot on wabo I'm in for a long haul as well. I'm happy with the way it sounds, with its features I'm done in the audio department( I personally believe I can't go any further). The only way it will be replaced if it breaks down.
post #23434 of 25955
I am confused by the software/firmware update process of the A1HDCI. I went to Denon's website and selected the A1HDCI and put in the serial number and it then told me there were no updates available. I know there is the newest upgrade that just got announced which requires the units be sent to Denon, but I assumed there had been atleast some software updates available for the owners to perform at home via the internet, I know I read somewhere there had been several update since its release.

When I plugged the network cable into the unit I couldnt get into the set up menu, which is does state in the manual that GUI will be disabled when in the update process. But how do you even get into the update process? The manual simply mentions the update process, doesnt actually tell you how to get into it. I unplugged the network cable and then power cycled the unit and was then able to get into the set up menu and find the Firmware update in the menu, but it doesnt do anything when you select it(which it couldnt anyway since Id unplugged the cable).
post #23435 of 25955
That firmware update site hasn't been managed for years. Check p. 43 in your Owner's manual and with an ethernet connection to your router, you can check for any firmware updates.

Manual Setup - Option Setup - Firmware Setup - Check for Update
post #23436 of 25955
man you're like Johnny on the spot eek.gif., always quick with an answer. So When I go through the menu to the firmware set up, there is not option for "check for update". I simply plugged the ethernet cable in and didnt bother setting anything up network wise. Im guessing you have to set up the denon with the network, I am reading through the manual now about that.
post #23437 of 25955
Yes .. it won't make a connection unless properly setup. Get the internet radio to work and you should be good to go.
post #23438 of 25955
Thank you kind sir
post #23439 of 25955
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Originally Posted by AudioBear View Post

THANKS!
The wireless HD to replace an HDMI cable is good to know.

I think if I were building from scratch what I'd do differently would be to install conduits to multiple locations so I could easily change out whatever cable I wanted when I wanted. Probably big ones to make it easier. Built-in vacuum piping comes to mind as a budget friendly BIG option, but there's lots of conduit options available at commercial electrical supply places too.
Put nylon string in as you assemble and when the time comes it's as simple as tying the cable to it on one end and pulling on the other...
post #23440 of 25955
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Originally Posted by Franin View Post

I agree with you their rnr. I had the power amp of the master series and it was really nice gear.

Ditto, I had the M25 too, and the M15 with the stand alone Audyssey SEQ in between. It's the only combo I've heard that rivalled my current AVP for music.

The M25 is a real sleeper of an amp, it's just too bad it doesn't have balanced inputs as an option, although it doesn't seem to hurt its' performance in any way.
post #23441 of 25955
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Originally Posted by sk576c View Post

Thank you kind sir

Best to use a cable/wired connection during updates. Wifi only if you really really really can't find a way to get a cable (and a switch) to your av-rack. More and more stuff needs to be on the net so having a cable in the av-rack is a must smile.gif

Daniel.
post #23442 of 25955
Is it common that the Denons get frozen up on firmware updates? I got the internet radio working, so started an update which it said would take approx 35 mins. Originally the display on the unit said 33 mins remaining, then it dropped to 26 (after about 10 mins) and for the past 30 mins it has not changed and still says

DSP1 Firm 26min
Updating

Do you just indefinitely let the update run before turning the unit of and trying again?
post #23443 of 25955
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Originally Posted by sk576c View Post

Is it common that the Denons get frozen up on firmware updates? I got the internet radio working, so started an update which it said would take approx 35 mins. Originally the display on the unit said 33 mins remaining, then it dropped to 26 (after about 10 mins) and for the past 30 mins it has not changed and still says
DSP1 Firm 26min
Updating
Do you just indefinitely let the update run before turning the unit of and trying again?

Did you use a wire and not wifi ?

Leave it for a while, if it is really stuck you can restart it. it _should_ start again but its a scary moment.

Again we advice you use a cable during the update and not wifi.

Daniel.
post #23444 of 25955
So after waiting over 1.5 hrs of being stuck at the same point in the firmware update I restarted the unit and it attempted to continue the update. Then the display changed to 24 minutes remaining and then got stuck again. This time however a power cycle didn't make any difference as it again resumed the update and was again stuck at 24 minutes. Anyone have a suggestion.

I am using a wired connection and have restarted my modem and router.
post #23445 of 25955
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Originally Posted by sk576c View Post

So after waiting over 1.5 hrs of being stuck at the same point in the firmware update I restarted the unit and it attempted to continue the update. Then the display changed to 24 minutes remaining and then got stuck again. This time however a power cycle didn't make any difference as it again resumed the update and was again stuck at 24 minutes. Anyone have a suggestion.
I am using a wired connection and have restarted my modem and router.
I seem to remember reading about others with connectivity issues that were resolved by making sure the AVP was the only device on the network with access during the update. If you are going through a switch, you might want to bypass the switch during the update.
Edited by WillyJ - 9/9/12 at 6:09pm
post #23446 of 25955
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Originally Posted by rnrgagne View Post

I think if I were building from scratch what I'd do differently would be to install conduits to multiple locations so I could easily change out whatever cable I wanted when I wanted. Probably big ones to make it easier. Built-in vacuum piping comes to mind as a budget friendly BIG option, but there's lots of conduit options available at commercial electrical supply places too.
Put nylon string in as you assemble and when the time comes it's as simple as tying the cable to it on one end and pulling on the other...
When I redid my room this year I put in a series of 1-1/2 inch white pvc thin wall plumbing pipe runs. It is very inexpensive pipe and the thin wall thickness allows more space inside the pipe for cables. Can get it at Lowes or Home Depot for a couple of bucks per 8 foot stick.
post #23447 of 25955
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Originally Posted by WillyJ View Post

I seem to remember reading about others with connectivity issues that were resolved by making sure the AVP was the only device on the network with access during the update. If you are going through a switch, you might want to bypass the switch during the update.

I'd also recommend assigning the AVP a static ip address instead of using DHCP?
post #23448 of 25955
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Originally Posted by WillyJ View Post

When I redid my room this year I put in a series of 1-1/2 inch white pvc thin wall plumbing pipe runs. It is very inexpensive pipe and the thin wall thickness allows more space inside the pipe for cables. Can get it at Lowes or Home Depot for a couple of bucks per 8 foot stick.

Yeah that's smart, whish I had done that.

I'm really missing my dedicated room more than I thought I would initially. Strangely, it's not because of the audio compromises in a multi-function room, but because I miss listening to music without the distractions of being on the main floor and the wife telling me to turn it down or wanting to talk to me about her "feelings", or the dogs barking etc...
post #23449 of 25955
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Originally Posted by rnrgagne View Post

Yeah that's smart, whish I had done that.
I'm really missing my dedicated room more than I thought I would initially. Strangely, it's not because of the audio compromises in a multi-function room, but because I miss listening to music without the distractions of being on the main floor and the wife telling me to turn it down or wanting to talk to me about her "feelings", or the dogs barking etc...

Will be interested to hear your long term impression of the wireless hdmi you are using. I considered it for my planned new projector but figured I would go ahead and run a cable while I was in the attic. After all, what is one more cable when one is already running 6 million wires (seemed like).wink.gif
post #23450 of 25955
Hi guys Ive noticed a bit of a problem last night and tonight. Watching a movie and intermittently im getting a like a popping sound coming only from my left speaker. Doesnt happen straight away but it happens throughout the movie. Ive changed xlr cable, changed movies, changed player still the same issue. Any help please?
post #23451 of 25955
I'd check the HDMI cables first, including the one to your PJ, just unplug it and see if the audio is still affected if it's too long to swap out.
Swap the speaker wire to another speaker and see if it's a speaker issue. Then try to free assign what ever channel is popping to a different speaker to see if it's an AVP issue.
If it's an AVP issue, you might want to do the "little button" power off and if that doesn't cure it then a processor reset. Next step... to the shop... frown.gif
post #23452 of 25955
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Originally Posted by rnrgagne View Post

I'd check the HDMI cables first, including the one to your PJ, just unplug it and see if the audio is still affected if it's too long to swap out.
Swap the speaker wire to another speaker and see if it's a speaker issue. Then try to free assign what ever channel is popping to a different speaker to see if it's an AVP issue.
If it's an AVP issue, you might want to do the "little button" power off and if that doesn't cure it then a processor reset. Next step... to the shop... frown.gif

Thanks rnr. I tried the iPod that's with no hdmi and it still did it. Funny thing is it does happen all the time. Could be listening for 1/2 an hour nothing than suddenly it happens. Pop pop...pop. Just out of the blue. The speaker runs through the roof and there is halogen light in the ceiling I guess if the wire is close to could be of concern. But now it suddenly happens?? I'll have to try the pre assign and speaker wire hopefully it the speaker wire if not how do I do a microprocessor reset?
post #23453 of 25955
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Originally Posted by Franin View Post

Thanks rnr. I tried the iPod that's with no hdmi and it still did it. Funny thing is it does happen all the time. Could be listening for 1/2 an hour nothing than suddenly it happens. Pop pop...pop. Just out of the blue. The speaker runs through the roof and there is halogen light in the ceiling I guess if the wire is close to could be of concern. But now it suddenly happens?? I'll have to try the pre assign and speaker wire hopefully it the speaker wire if not how do I do a microprocessor reset?
Could be your amp too. I'd swap channels to isolate.
post #23454 of 25955
Spoke to Denon also they said try a few ways apparently they've never heard of it happening to one speaker. Just curious if anyone else had experience the same issue? I
post #23455 of 25955
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Originally Posted by WillyJ View Post

Could be your amp too. I'd swap channels to isolate.

Yes I will be trying that tonight.
post #23456 of 25955
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Originally Posted by Franin View Post

..if not how do I do a microprocessor reset?

I think there's instructions on the wiki site. I doubt it's the speaker wire, if there was an issue it would be consistent I think. I wonder if it might be a capacitor that's okay till it warms up then pops as it discharges.... and caps are in the speaker crossovers as well as in the amps and AVP...
post #23457 of 25955
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Originally Posted by rnrgagne View Post

I think there's instructions on the wiki site. I doubt it's the speaker wire, if there was an issue it would be consistent I think. I wonder if it might be a capacitor that's okay till it warms up then pops as it discharges.... and caps are in the speaker crossovers as well as in the amps
AVP...

You could be right. The power amp has 10 channels will try the spare channel. Just to make sure.
post #23458 of 25955
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Originally Posted by Franin View Post

Hi guys Ive noticed a bit of a problem last night and tonight. Watching a movie and intermittently im getting a like a popping sound coming only from my left speaker. Doesnt happen straight away but it happens throughout the movie. Ive changed xlr cable, changed movies, changed player still the same issue. Any help please?

Hey Franin.

Sorry to hear about your problem. That sucks, man. Sounds like an amp problem to me. Years ago I was watching a movie and out of nowhere I hear (loudly) pop-pop-pop-pop.... sounded like a freakin' machine gun. This was when I had my gear in another room. I ran back there and my amp was smoking. Took forever to get that smell out. It was downright crazy. Long story short, I wonder if your left channel in the POA is going.
post #23459 of 25955
Okay Ive isolated the problem to the pre amp. What I did was swap the FR XLR cable to the FL XLR cable and the FL XLR cable to the FR XLR cable. Instead of the interference coming through the left now it's on the right. I had to do a master reset and start again so hopefully this is the last time 'touchwood'. If not straight to the service centre. mad.gif

It was going all well and know it decides it wants to play games.
post #23460 of 25955
Wow, sorry to hear that. Hopefully the reset does the trick.
I had an output capacitor blow on the sub channel of my Z9 quite a while back and I'd get a the loud popping everytime an input switched or when a TV channel went from stereo to DD etc. These things happen, it sucks, but it happens
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