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Originally Posted by Franin View Post

I definitley agree. The pro kit also is an added advantage too smile.gif
The ability to use the pro kit is a nice bonus for those of you outside the USA, but it was always an option for us here.
post #24002 of 25957
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Originally Posted by ccotenj View Post

@sam...
yes, you are on the correct path there, re: rlo...
for movies and mch music, try turning off dynamic volume, and start with a rlo of 5... that seems to take the edge off the "over boosted" surrounds for me...
tv "works best" for me with a rlo of 10, although 15 is preferable with fox sports broadcasts (for some reaons, they still mix the surrounds way too hot to start with)...


Thanks, I'll try with RLO at -10dB tonight.
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Originally Posted by Franin View Post

Ive turned mine off, Im at -4db when the DTS HD Offset it is +4db

What exactly are you turning off, RLO?
post #24003 of 25957
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Originally Posted by Sam S View Post


What exactly are you turning off, RLO?

Dynamic eq
post #24004 of 25957
just keep in mind dynamic volume ad dynamic eq two differnet things. dynamic volume have found usefull for watching tv but for movies, music etc I have it off. dynamic eq though is somethign have in play for everything.

the beaut thing with the avp is that if switch off dyn volume for particular input, the avp remembers so its not something have to switch on / off depending what input your using smile.gif
post #24005 of 25957
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Originally Posted by alebonau View Post

just keep in mind dynamic volume ad dynamic eq two differnet things. dynamic volume have found usefull for watching tv but for movies, music etc I have it off. dynamic eq though is somethign have in play for everything.
the beaut thing with the avp is that if switch off dyn volume for particular input, the avp remembers so its not something have to switch on / off depending what input your using smile.gif

Hi al it's been awhile buddy how you been ?
post #24006 of 25957
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Originally Posted by Franin View Post

Hi al it's been awhile buddy how you been ?

been good thanks frank, where was unimaginably thinking of selling off things like my avp some time back, since getting a projector and updating my avp the home theatre side had a new lease of life smile.gif clocked up over 600 hours on the projector in the last year ! and thats mostly movies .... so yeah absolutely enjoying things. looking forward to the christmas break. got a few movies stocked up to watch over the holidays

how you going frank ? any additions to the system or just sitting back enjoying things these days smile.gif
post #24007 of 25957
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Originally Posted by alebonau View Post

just keep in mind dynamic volume ad dynamic eq two differnet things. dynamic volume have found usefull for watching tv but for movies, music etc I have it off. dynamic eq though is somethign have in play for everything.
the beaut thing with the avp is that if switch off dyn volume for particular input, the avp remembers so its not something have to switch on / off depending what input your using smile.gif

Same here: Dynamic Volume + Dynamic EQ for TV; Dynamic EQ for everything else. Yes - one of the best things about the AVP is it's ability to remember settings for each input, including the RLO settings. Just have to remember to turn it off with the settings where I want them or return them to the settings I want before shutting it down. Sometimes I play around with things and turn it off and have to remember where I had it set before I played around with it. The quick select buttons are good too - just wish there were about 6 more of them.

One pretty neat thing about Dynamic Volume is the way it will trim the volume back when channel surfing or Tivo'ing - the volume will slowly ramp back up after the channel locks back in. Just figured that one out a couple of weeks ago.eek.gif

Going to be shopping for a new projector here soon - will maybe start a new thread and get everyone's input on what I should get and so forth. Never had a projector before so it should be an interesting procedure for me.
post #24008 of 25957
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Originally Posted by alebonau View Post

been good thanks frank, where was unimaginably thinking of selling off things like my avp some time back, since getting a projector and updating my avp the home theatre side had a new lease of life smile.gif clocked up over 600 hours on the projector in the last year ! and thats mostly movies .... so yeah absolutely enjoying things. looking forward to the christmas break. got a few movies stocked up to watch over the holidays
how you going frank ? any additions to the system or just sitting back enjoying things these days smile.gif

Hi Al its good to hear from you. Looking forward to christmas and sittin back enjoy the festivities. Its good to see your enjoying the projector and I bet your glad you hanged on to your AVP, you have a fantastic setup smile.gif Im sitting back and enjoying it now. I guess my next upgrade will be 4K but that will be along while yet.
post #24009 of 25957
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Originally Posted by WillyJ View Post

Going to be shopping for a new projector here soon - will maybe start a new thread and get everyone's input on what I should get and so forth. Never had a projector before so it should be an interesting procedure for me.

There's a couple of really good projector specific sites, projector central and projector reviews that you can check out along with AVS's projector section. The two sites have some great info to decide what type best suits your intended use and application, and have excellent reviews of PJ's meeting those needs. The AVS threads regarding the PJ's you're interested in will give you an idea of reliabiltiy and issues or bugs once you narrow it down. That's the route I'd take.
It's definitely one area where the "bang for the buck" has gotten significantly better. I can get a sharper, brighter, higher resolution 3D projector for 2/3 to 1/2 of what I paid for my 2D 1080p unit 5+ years ago.
post #24010 of 25957
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Originally Posted by Franin View Post

Hi Al its good to hear from you. Looking forward to christmas and sittin back enjoy the festivities. Its good to see your enjoying the projector and I bet your glad you hanged on to your AVP, you have a fantastic setup smile.gif Im sitting back and enjoying it now. I guess my next upgrade will be 4K but that will be along while yet.

great to hear frank, enjoy this part of the year coming up. yeah am keen to see what 4k brings to the home, but given will need pretty much whole sale upgrade in disc formats and everything in equipment/image path, can imagine be a long while before that comes through
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Originally Posted by rnrgagne View Post

There's a couple of really good projector specific sites, projector central and projector reviews that you can check out along with AVS's projector section. The two sites have some great info to decide what type best suits your intended use and application, and have excellent reviews of PJ's meeting those needs. The AVS threads regarding the PJ's you're interested in will give you an idea of reliabiltiy and issues or bugs once you narrow it down. That's the route I'd take.
It's definitely one area where the "bang for the buck" has gotten significantly better. I can get a sharper, brighter, higher resolution 3D projector for 2/3 to 1/2 of what I paid for my 2D 1080p unit 5+ years ago.

yes avs is pretty good as is avforums. and review sites linked too. plenty of good info on the net smile.gif good to then head out see in person what are some good choices for pjs out there smile.gif
post #24011 of 25957
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Originally Posted by alebonau View Post

.... good to then head out see in person what are some good choices for pjs out there smile.gif

I've never been able to demo a PJ before I bought it LOL. I've always been ahead of the curve and had it in my home before any stores had it!

But really, unlike audio products where reviews tend to be mostly subjective, (and the end results are far more room acoustics dependent than the actual component differences can offer), projector reviews tend to be very objective. Lumens, contrast ratios, color temp, black levels etc., can all be acurately measured and compared against one another. And unlike audio products where you can't play the same material at the same time out of anything, with PJ's you can project the same image at the same time on half a screen and compare them head to head. The trick with any display is calibration, and frankly I don't trust the stores to get that right.
post #24012 of 25957
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Originally Posted by Franin View Post

Dynamic eq

I see.

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Originally Posted by alebonau View Post

just keep in mind dynamic volume ad dynamic eq two differnet things. dynamic volume have found usefull for watching tv but for movies, music etc I have it off. dynamic eq though is somethign have in play for everything.
the beaut thing with the avp is that if switch off dyn volume for particular input, the avp remembers so its not something have to switch on / off depending what input your using smile.gif

Yep. Well after a few hours of playing with it last night, I decided to permanently turn off Dynamic EQ for serious music/movie watching. Even at -15dB RLO the balanced seemed "off" compared to Dynamic EQ set to Off. Part of my experience may have to do with the fact that I sit closer to my rears (6ft) than my fronts (9ft) and I got a new amp for center/surrounds that (ATI AT3007) that provides a tremendous level of clarity and soundstage for these channels.

I used some familiar 5.1 music Blu-rays, where the instrument placement in the front-to-rear soundstage was easy to distinguish if things were coming in "too loud". RLO at -15dB was almost OK, but at sometimes there was a bit of pumping (?) where the balance just shifted too far to the rears for my tastes. It's OK for casual TV listening, where it's not as much of a distraction because you don't have a good point of reference for the front/rear mix balance.

I still like Dynamic Volume, though! I could never use it pre-upgrade. But it had become invaluable recently, as I have two little ones that are always sleeping when we get to settle in for a movie.
post #24013 of 25957
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Originally Posted by rnrgagne View Post

There's a couple of really good projector specific sites, projector central and projector reviews that you can check out along with AVS's projector section. The two sites have some great info to decide what type best suits your intended use and application, and have excellent reviews of PJ's meeting those needs. The AVS threads regarding the PJ's you're interested in will give you an idea of reliabiltiy and issues or bugs once you narrow it down. That's the route I'd take.
It's definitely one area where the "bang for the buck" has gotten significantly better. I can get a sharper, brighter, higher resolution 3D projector for 2/3 to 1/2 of what I paid for my 2D 1080p unit 5+ years ago.

Thanks. Thought I would post some pictures showing my room layout, windows and so forth to get some thoughts about output needed and I trust the opinions on this thread about pragmatic choices. Anyone that owns an AVP has to be smart..right?biggrin.gif

After watching Prometheus 3D on my 58" plasma the other day, I am getting the bug to go ahead and get moving on the projector and get a bigger 3D impact.
post #24014 of 25957
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Originally Posted by WillyJ View Post

Thanks. Thought I would post some pictures showing my room layout, windows and so forth to get some thoughts about output needed and I trust the opinions on this thread about pragmatic choices. Anyone that owns an AVP has to be smart..right?biggrin.gif
After watching Prometheus 3D on my 58" plasma the other day, I am getting the bug to go ahead and get moving on the projector and get a bigger 3D impact.

hehe watched premetheus on my pj and 3D and PJs are definitely a very good thing. with the larger screen size you get a much more immersive experience with 3D which adds greatly to the enjoyment factor I think smile.gif
post #24015 of 25957
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Originally Posted by WillyJ View Post

Anyone that owns an AVP has to be smart..right?biggrin.gif
Well, I own an AVP..... biggrin.gif
post #24016 of 25957
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Originally Posted by alebonau View Post

hehe watched premetheus on my pj and 3D and PJs are definitely a very good thing. with the larger screen size you get a much more immersive experience with 3D which adds greatly to the enjoyment factor I think smile.gif

I haven't even used the the 3D on my RS60U yet. Will try one day.
post #24017 of 25957
I haven"t a 3d pj , but have watched some , and surely i dislike it . I think that the current 3d is unintegrated , or let me put it this way , not complete yet. I hate the glasses that i must wear all the time.
I would like a holoraphic 3d glassless ofcourse , with less crosstalk , and less brightness leakage.
But that"s me again.



Still waiting for that time window to get my avp in for the upgrade.



What can one say? life sucks.Sometimes.tongue.gif
post #24018 of 25957
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Originally Posted by jomark911 View Post

I haven"t a 3d pj , but have watched some , and surely i dislike it . I think that the current 3d is unintegrated , or let me put it this way , not complete yet. I hate the glasses that i must wear all the time.
I would like a holoraphic 3d glassless ofcourse , with less crosstalk , and less brightness leakage.
But that"s me again.
Still waiting for that time window to get my avp in for the upgrade.
What can one say? life sucks.Sometimes.tongue.gif

How long before the upgrade jomark ?
post #24019 of 25957
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Originally Posted by WillyJ View Post

Anyone that owns an AVP has to be smart..right?biggrin.gif
.

What if it was a gift ?

or

You buy it by accident when you really wanted to buy the AVP movie and didn't notice the extra cost on amazon ?

Daniel.
post #24020 of 25957
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Originally Posted by Franin View Post

How long before the upgrade jomark ?




Well, hopefully next week.biggrin.gif
post #24021 of 25957
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Well, hopefully next week.biggrin.gif

Been that Christmas is around the corner there not on holidays over there ?
post #24022 of 25957
Hi all,

I would like to know if possible to just bridge front (L/R and center) with 300 watts and surround with regular 150 watts per channel.

Many thanks!
post #24023 of 25957
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Originally Posted by freedom88 View Post

Hi all,
I would like to know if possible to just bridge front (L/R and center) with 300 watts and surround with regular 150 watts per channel.
Many thanks!
Assuming you're asking about the POA configuration, yes you can configure the channels however you want. So you can bridge 6 of the channels for the L/C/R and then use the other 4 unbridged for the surrounds - that's how I currently have mine configured.
post #24024 of 25957
Yeah same here.
post #24025 of 25957
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Originally Posted by Franin View Post

Been that Christmas is around the corner there not on holidays over there ?

Yeah Frank, Holidays are comin, thats why i have to talk with them, so i will be separated from my avp for the shortest amount of time.
post #24026 of 25957
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Originally Posted by jomark911 View Post

Yeah Frank, Holidays are comin, thats why i have to talk with them, so i will be separated from my avp for the shortest amount of time.

Well hopefully you get it back as quick as you can smile.gif
post #24027 of 25957
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Originally Posted by gsr View Post

Assuming you're asking about the POA configuration, yes you can configure the channels however you want. So you can bridge 6 of the channels for the L/C/R and then use the other 4 unbridged for the surrounds - that's how I currently have mine configured.

In fact thats i think most people who own a POA are probably doing it. If they have 5.1 they bridge all channels or they run 7.1 and then bridge only the 3 fronts.

Personally i also run 7.1 this way.

Daniel.
post #24028 of 25957
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Originally Posted by danielo View Post

Personally i also run 7.1 this way.
Daniel.

It's the same for my POA as well.

Deck
post #24029 of 25957
Hi everybody,

I will also become an AVP owner in one day or so and I was asking myself how to deal with the XLR - RCA problem. May be this question was discussed already a long time ago and it would be nice, if somebody can point me to an answer or answer this directly. Thank you.

My assumption is, that it is of great advantage to use the XLR outputs on the AVP due to it's complete symmetrical, internal setup - correct? My problem is now, that some of my equipment has only RCA inputs - one five channel amp and my subwoofers.

How do you deal with this issue?

I mean buying a POA is not an option, I am using Audionet power amps - AMP V and AMP VII. The latter has XLR inputs. I am somehow hesitating to 'brute-force' them non-symmetrical by bridging pins 1 and 3. This could have a bad feedback on the circuits in the AVP.

Can somebody tell me what is your experience with that? What are you using?

Thank you in advance

Markus
post #24030 of 25957
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Originally Posted by Ganymed4 View Post

Hi everybody,
I will also become an AVP owner in one day or so and I was asking myself how to deal with the XLR - RCA problem. May be this question was discussed already a long time ago and it would be nice, if somebody can point me to an answer or answer this directly. Thank you.
My assumption is, that it is of great advantage to use the XLR outputs on the AVP due to it's complete symmetrical, internal setup - correct? My problem is now, that some of my equipment has only RCA inputs - one five channel amp and my subwoofers.
How do you deal with this issue?
I mean buying a POA is not an option, I am using Audionet power amps - AMP V and AMP VII. The latter has XLR inputs. I am somehow hesitating to 'brute-force' them non-symmetrical by bridging pins 1 and 3. This could have a bad feedback on the circuits in the AVP.
Can somebody tell me what is your experience with that? What are you using?
Thank you in advance
Markus
If your amps don't have XLR inputs, just use the RCA outputs. There's no advantage to using the XLR outputs unless the amp has XLR inputs and is also fully balanced.
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