Official Denon AVP-A1HD/AVP-A1HDCI and POA-A1HD/POA-A1HDCI owners thread. - Page 814

Originally Posted by Ganymed4 

Let me see, if I can find it in Ask Audyssey.
Sorry, I can't publish the link here due to privacy reasons.
The whole Answer from Chris was:
...Dynamic EQ is absolutely necessary if you listen at any volume level below reference (0 dB). It must always be on to make sure the balance is maintained at lower listening levels.
Don't worry about the subwoofer dynamic range. It doesn't matter where the level on the sub is set. It's just a relative setting."....
Listening to the sound of 'Dredd' in 9.2 with the AVP was just exactly what I always wanted to hear. I hope this answers your question. In doubt, please use Ask Audyssey.
But at the end, you are right, it is absolutely optional. However, I found it most helpful, if you are using XT32. For XT, I would find it too much. Or in other words: There is a difference in the implementation of DEQ in XT and XT32.

Originally Posted by SoundofMind 

Thnx for the quote and I think we agree that it is in fact NOT "absolutely necessary if you listen at any volume level below reference (0 dB). It must always be on to make sure the balance is maintained at lower listening levels."

I like DEQ but it is an optional EQ tweak. It performs its intended EQ function quite accurately for film. However for music it often produces inbalance in two major ways. One, it can boost the bass too much, so usually requires adjustment to the track by use of RLO, as I'm sure you're aware. With MC music it boosts surrounds way too much and IME even using the proper RLO setting to tame the bass is not enough. For MC music, having to tweak RLO and then tweak the fader is too much trouble for me. So for MC music I just turn off DEQ and turn up MV.

I do not not take Chris' statement quite so literally in this ex.

Originally Posted by SoundofMind 

Thnx for the quote and I think we agree that it is in fact NOT "absolutely necessary if you listen at any volume level below reference (0 dB). It must always be on to make sure the balance is maintained at lower listening levels."

I like DEQ but it is an optional EQ tweak. It performs its intended EQ function quite accurately for film. However for music it often produces inbalance in two major ways. One, it can boost the bass too much, so usually requires adjustment to the track by use of RLO, as I'm sure you're aware. With MC music it boosts surrounds way too much and IME even using the proper RLO setting to tame the bass is not enough. For MC music, having to tweak RLO and then tweak the fader is too much trouble for me. So for MC music I just turn off DEQ and turn up MV.

I do not not take Chris' statement quite so literally in this ex.

Originally Posted by WillyJ 

I sort of would like to have a similar DEQ/RLO for center channel loudness. I have issues with my hearing (sensitive) so I tend to listen at lower volumes but when I do this with some movies, mostly movies with a lot of dynamics (gunshots, explosions, etc.) I have to really turn the volume down but when I do this, I lose center channel level too much. I have experimented with the DEQ/RLO ad nauseum but to no avail and I can't simply boost the center volume because I listen to a lot of mch music where it is just fine. I may have to purchase another Oppo and set it up with its own AVP settings for movies. Might be a good excuse to go ahead and spring for the new BDP 103 or 105.

Originally Posted by Tom Edge 

Hi. I am trying to diagnose a fault with my AVPA1HDA:

The unit powers up fine, but I cannot get any sound from the phono or XLR outs on any source, although the unit recognises the input fine.

I am sure the unit used to "click" when you turned the left hand source select knob.

It doesn't now.

Can someone confirm wether or not turning the knob to select a different source makes the unit (ie relays) click ?

Any other assistance greatly appreciated.

Thanks Tom

Originally Posted by cglin222 

Hi, I am trying to find out what is the problem of my POA

I connect my FL speaker to my L1 bank of the amp, when using channel tester, and everything at default, my left speaker will always hisss louder than others.
So I swapped my front speakers, same, so it's not because of the speakers.

I then swap the xlr at the AVP, and noticed that, which ever speaker that uses that L1 bank amp from the POA, will be louder

Also, when watching movie or listen to music it is signicificant louder as well just like when testing with channel tester.

What is happening? Is it my AVP or POA's falut?

Originally Posted by gsr 

When say "So I swapped my front speakers, same", does this mean that after swapping your front right speaker is now louder than the others?
If swapping which speaker is connected to L1 and swapping which output on the AVP is connected to L1 always results in the speaker connected to L1 being louder than the others, then the fault is almost certainly with the POA.

Originally Posted by gsr 

Have you tried using the AVP's radio source or the built-in test tones? Have you tried doing a factory reset? Those are a few things I would try before anything else. Also, what are you using for an amp and do you have a way to confirm that amp is working properly?

Originally Posted by cglin222 

Hi, So when I said swaping speakers, it is still the FL speakers that hisss louder, so that's why I was certain not the speaker problem
Thanks for your valuable input, I will try to swap out the POA and check once again.

Originally Posted by BRADH 

This happened to me once. The fix was simple, I power cycled the AVP and that fixed it. You might want to try a power cycle.

Brad

Originally Posted by cglin222 

Hi, So when I said swaping speakers, it is still the FL speakers that hisss louder, so that's why I was certain not the speaker problem
Thanks for your valuable input, I will try to swap out the POA and check once again.

Originally Posted by WillyJ 

@cglin222

I would also make sure it isn't a ground loop. Hiss noise can be a hum to some folks.

Originally Posted by cglin222 

Hi, Brad

I've actually shut off my AVP many times, so are you saying that it might also be the AVP now and not the POA?

Also, why when I do channel tester, when down to SR or SL forgot which, my sub was also hissing too?
I connected the sub from sw1 (audio pre-out) on avp to LFE in on my sub, is this correct? well, actually the installer that brought the stuff connected it

and also set the sub to use LFE+main

Is my AVP/POA defected somehow? since I got it as a demo unit sale from bestbuy magnolia...

I am thinking of switching to MC8207 for my ML Montis, but I am liking the AVP, but worst case, if AVP is also defected, what is another good pre/pro to get? Marantz 8801?
I wanted one with xlr cd in to connect my oppo105

Thanks
George

Originally Posted by Franin 

What do you have hooked to your AVP ? I'm curious if you are using any analog stereo inputs.

Originally Posted by BRADH 

Hi George

For me it was just a hiss coming out of one of the front channels. Power cycle fixed it for me. You could do a hard reset and see if that helps (use the web interface and back
up your setting first). At least this way you can elminate the AVP one way or the other.

Brad

Originally Posted by cglin222 

Hi,

BTW, anyone know if I were going to change POA to McIntosh, how do I connect the control link?
from AVP mini jack out labled room to room to McIntosh ZA in?

Thanks
George

Originally Posted by Sam S 

You wouldn't use the Control Link if you're going to a McIntosh amp. You'd just assign one of your trigger outputs.

Why would you go from POA to MC8207? That's a sideways move at best. If you want to upgrade from the POA, you'd want to get a combo of MC303, MC252, etc.

Originally Posted by cglin222 

Hi, Brad

When you say power cycle, do you mean just turn on/off the power switch? or do you pull the power cord at the back while device in on? or off?
I did a hard reset once, still same thing.

But let me know of your method when you meant power cycle, I'll try it out

Thanks

Originally Posted by BRADH 

George,

Just the small power button on the right of the standy by button. Have you done a hard reset? Its worth a try. Dont forget to use the
web interface and save you settings.

Brad

Originally Posted by JonFo 

Hey cglin222 and BradH, as MartinLogan owners and proud AVP owners as well, please join Seth (Oyeah32 - thread starter) and myself over on the MartinLoganOwners forum if you ever have questions relating to your speakers and such.

Also make sure to read my handy guide on doing Audyssey measurements for MartinLogans, as there are some guidelines unique to those speakers.

Cheers,

Originally Posted by JonFo 

Hey cglin222 and BradH, as MartinLogan owners and proud AVP owners as well, please join Seth (Oyeah32 - thread starter) and myself over on the MartinLoganOwners forum if you ever have questions relating to your speakers and such.

Also make sure to read my handy guide on doing Audyssey measurements for MartinLogans, as there are some guidelines unique to those speakers.

Cheers,

Originally Posted by cglin222 

I still don't get it why doing channel tester, my Surround R and sub would hisss out sound....

Originally Posted by JonFo 


BTW- a great tool for all audiophiles, is a sound measurement setup. If you have an iOS device, I highly recommend the Studio Six Digital Audio Tools App. Use the RTA when testing for Hiss and report back frequency and level. Better yet, post a screen shot of the measurement.

Cheers,