Official Denon AVP-A1HD/AVP-A1HDCI and POA-A1HD/POA-A1HDCI owners thread. - Page 823

Discovered the analog input problem, well at least for me.

When the manual says "non standard signals may not be converted", they really mean it. The Y/C and composite signals that I was using had the luminance way too high 100IRE = 115 IRE and that is definitely non standard. So I tried my old Sony S-VHS machine, SLV-R1000, and everything worked just fine. The HDMI up converted output burst into life from any Y/C or composite input.

So for those having problems make sure that your Y/C and composite signals meet NTSC specifications; level and frequency. It looks like the AVP is really anal about it.

If your analog video input appears on the analog monitor out but NOT on HDMI, then assuming that you have set up video convert on the input correctly you can reasonably assume that there is something wrong with the signal you are feeding the AVP. What I saw was smearing on the peak whites on the analog monitor. The composite monitor video output does not seem to care too much about a non-standard analog input signal as it is all analog video circuitry.
Edited by Digione - 3/8/13 at 2:07pm

After months of wait today i've had the bad news: Denon Europe is not longer offering the 3d/xt32 update for their flagship model AVP-A1HD.I think i'm done with Denon!
I'm looking for a substitute to my AVP-A1HD can you suggest something with 3D and Audissey xt32 that is in the same (or better) audio league than the Denon?

Something in the same league that has Audyssey XT32 and supports 3D? I'm honestly not aware of anything. Marantz has their new pre-pro, but it's based on the Denon AVR-4520 - a friend has one and it sounded very good in his system, but I don't feel it's in the same league as the AVP. If you're willing to try a different room correction system, the Anthem D2v might be an option. I don't think there's any other option out there that meets your criteria and that's certainly a part of why so many of us plan to stick with our AVP's for the foreseeable future. Do let us know if you find a suitable alternative.

Did you order an upgrade kit many months ago or just make your decision to upgrade recently? Anyone following this thread certainly had plenty of warning that the kits wouldn't be available indefinitely and that the end was near. If you put in an order a while back, I feel bad that you missed out as the upgrade keeps the AVP useful for a while yet.

We knew this would happen. Every time Denon offers a hardware update to a product, it seems like they only have it available for <12 months, so it never pays to wait!

Exactly. This shouldn't come as a shock to anyone. If anything, I'm surprised the upgrade kits lasted this long.

I couldn't agree more. Thank you gsr!

Done with Denon, you've had 12 months to think about it

I agree

Does the upgrade make it sound better, I was not impressed last I heard, sorry!

Audyssey XT32 is a clear improvement over XT, so yes.

I've ordered the upgrade October 2012 and at that time they told me it was still available. Yes maybe i was late but the answer came to me only yesterday (11thy march 2013).
6 months? C'mon guys. I'm done with Denon.
Not considering that my other Denon unit, the A1UD player is stuck from months with some features not working and bugs because of a buggy firmware update (see a1ud thread).

That was why I asked when did you order the kit - a 6 month wait to then be told they're no longer available would leave me rather disgruntled too.

Well in that case I don't blame you. I would be disgruntled too if they did that to me. Was it Denon that got back to you late or the service agent?

Regarding A1UD I'm glad I did not buy that player $10,000AU over here. Gone are the days I believe spending more than $1500 on a player personally I believe its not worth it.

Definitely. Everyone on this thread as far as I know that has upgraded are impressed.

Not sure how the upgrade process was handled in Italy or the ROTW but here in the US, we dealt with an authorized Denon service company to handle the upgrade. In my case, I placed my order with the service company who then ordered the kit from Denon. The kit arrived approx. 10 days after the the service center ordered from Denon. When the kit arrived, I arranged to bring my AVP in and have the work done in the same day. If this process was similar in Italy, it sounds like your problem was with the service center not getting the kit from Denon in a prompt manner. That could be Denon or it could be the service center. Since 6 months has gone by before you were notified, it sounds to me like someone didn't follow-up and make sure the kit was on it's way. I would have been sweating it after 1 month much less 6 months.

You can still contact Denon directly and see if anything can be done because it sounds like there was a breakdown somewhere.

Compared to the Marantz 8801?

I'm talkin about the AVP what this has to do with the 8801? Are you an owner of the 8801?

The 8801 is just a 4520 with a spit shine.

Sorry, add another to the list of disappointed. I am happy with the 3D pass through. Otherwise, I'm sorry I spent the money. No S-Video input and no Owner's Manual. I don't consider that God Awful CD an Owner's Manual. No provision for Denon Link HD.

I must give credit for the SACD playback with the DVD A1 via Denon Link. Best audio playback when compared to the OPOO 95 and 103.

Same process in Germany. Ordered it - one week - and also brought it to the Denon service center and got it back the next day.

Well there are some things, you can be disappointed about... However, they are only minor for me. What counts for me is the excellent sound and video quality this thing delivers and that I can use my Audyssey Installer- or Pro-Kit with it. I see this like, yes, there could have been some things improved - some things don't match the price tag, but the package is right - at least for me.

Hi
I just checked my upgraded AVP and I have no problems with S-Video or composite input.

On DVR-1 input I have connected my Pioneer HLD-X9 to S-Video in, and in the setup menu, choose HDMI: None, Component: None, Video Select : Source, Video Convert: On, A to H

And I also have a Pioneer CLD-D925 connected to the VCR input with composite video, and the same settings as above.


Deck

I'm taking about the audio. But regards the update your service centre is responsible for that.
Edited by Franin - 3/12/13 at 4:41pm

Hey Wabo I tell you someone left the gate open. That's 3 members now who don't own the AVP jump in this thread making comments. I'm confused on why they bother making the effort. Apart from the casing, build quality and features marantz and Denon are from the same place.
Edited by Franin - 3/12/13 at 4:44pm

If that helps you keep the Denon longer , keep telling yourself that.

Well it is isn't, your not happy with your AVP?

Just trying to make it clear its a Marantz and not a Denon with a "spit shine" and I'm very happy with the 8801.

It's a Marantz that shares a lot of DNA with the Denon AVR-4520CI.

I certainly don't get why they switched to a completely new Denon Link - it's a really odd move that will probably have some negative effects on future sales. Those with previous generations AVR's will most likely consider other brands of players and those with previous generation players will most likely consider other brands of AVR's / pre-pros since they won't be able to mix old and new products for Denon Link. I see that as a valid complaint. But S-Video still works and the owner's manual seems like a pretty minor issue - if you really want a print out, it's pretty easy to print the manual.

Denon didn't make the parts and the implementation of said parts is Marantz's and not Denon and its a shame to give credit to another design team for another teams efforts to produce a given product , the same could be said of all gear that uses similar parts and get expect to get the same sound but this doesn't happen as how they are implemented plays a defining role , it seems the thinking of some is a long the lines of Onkyo and its sister line Integra .