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Originally Posted by DJB of Poole View Post

That is a good idea, especially since a PC cooling system can get indescribably filthy - (these items are only specialist PCs). What follows is, how does one get at the fans in both machines to do some cleaning?

I have never done this, but open the top cover of the AVP and look for the fan. I never saw one on the pictures of the open AVP but I was assured here, that there is a fan inside. Because the REALTA T2 is producing most of the heat, it should be somehow close.

But please correct me somebody, who knows better... Thanks
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I've been following this thread for a year. 

 

I have had two AVPs upgraded for myself and one for my son. Had also planned to upgrade another for my daughter but never did get the unit -- thus I have a left over upgrade kit which I've paid for being held at my service center. If anyone wants to purchase the kit I'll sell it for cost plus shipping. I've been in Wyoming for the summer and will be heading home to Florida on Oct 15, so would not be able to pick up the unit from the service center until after then (or the purchaser could have their AVP upgraded at this service center).

 

Let me know how to contact whomever is interested -- will contact first to respond.

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smile.gif That's a great offer. I am sure you will make somebody happy. If not i will buy it.




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Originally Posted by Rick1fl View Post

I've been following this thread for a year. 

I have had two AVPs upgraded for myself and one for my son. Had also planned to upgrade another for my daughter but never did get the unit -- thus I have a left over upgrade kit which I've paid for being held at my service center. If anyone wants to purchase the kit I'll sell it for cost plus shipping. I've been in Wyoming for the summer and will be heading home to Florida on Oct 15, so would not be able to pick up the unit from the service center until after then (or the purchaser could have their AVP upgraded at this service center).

Let me know how to contact whomever is interested -- will contact first to respond.
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Meanwhile, I also have a small problem with the AVP. I have the problem, that the net-player, does not recognize the servers in my LAN. This is somehow quite disappointing. The solution would be to use my Oppo, which always functions quite well.
I gave the AVP a fixed IP-address but this is also often not recognized by my Android app called Denon AVR.

Is anybody experiencing the same problems or does anybody have a solution for this?
post #25475 of 25965
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Originally Posted by Ganymed4 View Post

Meanwhile, I also have a small problem with the AVP. I have the problem, that the net-player, does not recognize the servers in my LAN. This is somehow quite disappointing. The solution would be to use my Oppo, which always functions quite well.
I gave the AVP a fixed IP-address but this is also often not recognized by my Android app called Denon AVR.

Is anybody experiencing the same problems or does anybody have a solution for this?


I have to power down the AVP using the front power button quite often to get it to communicate on my network. Even though I have given it a static address, this is still necessary.
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Originally Posted by Ganymed4 View Post

Meanwhile, I also have a small problem with the AVP. I have the problem, that the net-player, does not recognize the servers in my LAN. This is somehow quite disappointing. The solution would be to use my Oppo, which always functions quite well.
I gave the AVP a fixed IP-address but this is also often not recognized by my Android app called Denon AVR.

Is anybody experiencing the same problems or does anybody have a solution for this?

The AVP has a disaster of an IP interface. It can only handle one session at a time and frequently locks up requiring you to reset the adapter (small button tuning off as noted above). There is no real fix to it because very few people write code in an archaic manner to deal with the AVP issues and it does not make much sense from a programming perspective today anyway.

The best way to make sure the adapter is working correctly to start with is to use the web intereface and then try your application.

Note there is a rumored, unpublished more advanced programming model within the AVP but they have not exposed it. On another forum dealing with remotes I saw a statement from a vendor about it.
post #25477 of 25965
Thank you for your answers. Good to know, that I am not alone...
post #25478 of 25965
Here was the link to the remote control app that talked about an unpublished http interface to the denon.

http://support.iruleathome.com/customer/portal/questions/835105-denon-avr-http-control
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I read Aesculus reply above and I'm wondering if this is the same issue:

Hoping someone can help with IP address issue:

I'm using the Roomie Remote software on my iPad to control my theater (awesome, by the way). My AVP is hooked up via ethernet, with a static IP address. The roomie / Ipad obviously uses wifi. I consistently have to power down the AVP via the button on the front panel to get the Roomie software to "recognize" the AVP via IP. Once I reboot the AVP, the Roomie software picks it up right away. Very frustrating. Can it be that one is hard wired and the other is not? Nothing else is changing from day to day? Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks.
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That's an issue with the AVP and the programming model everyone uses today. They don't match.

The AVP expects you to connect. run a command, get the response and disconnect, for each command. Obviously the Roomie or other software you also use, does not adhere to that model. So later, during another session, the AVP is stuck and needs to be reset.

A rumor has it that the AVP does have another programming model but they have not exposed it to more than a handful of developers.
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Originally Posted by Aesculus View Post

That's an issue with the AVP and the programming model everyone uses today. They don't match.

The AVP expects you to connect. run a command, get the response and disconnect, for each command. Obviously the Roomie or other software you also use, does not adhere to that model. So later, during another session, the AVP is stuck and needs to be reset.

A rumor has it that the AVP does have another programming model but they have not exposed it to more than a handful of developers.

Hey guys smile.gif

there are 2 way drivers available for D&M using Crestron, RTI or other remote control protocols, usually these work best using RS232

the problem is the same port (s) are used for serial and IP control: ios apps seem to lock up the processor: i.e they busy up the port even when you are not using the app: this remains a problem even with the Marantz 8801 processor: if you ping the port of a D&M product after sending an ios command, you will most likely find it busy and you are locked out: until the app is closed and the port reopened: for such an excellent product this is really a frustrating issue which Denon/ Marantz should/ could fix
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^^
Mark - good to know you still follow our cozy little AVP thread even though you no longer own the AVP.smile.gif
Edited by WillyJ - 10/15/13 at 6:31am
post #25483 of 25965
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Hey guys smile.gif
for such an excellent product this is really a frustrating issue which Denon/ Marantz should/ could fix

The rumor is that they have fixed it with a sockets protocol but are not willing to share the how outside of a few close friends.
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Originally Posted by Aesculus View Post

The rumor is that they have fixed it with a sockets protocol but are not willing to share the how outside of a few close friends.

Are you one of the friends? Or do you know, how to fix it?
post #25485 of 25965
I am not one of the friends. The supplier of your program needs to contact Denon and beg for the protocol
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Thank you and understood.
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Any chance for Denon to replace the AVP-A1HD and POA-A1HD?

Anyone heard about anything? Any rumour?
post #25488 of 25965
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Originally Posted by MV_Cinema View Post

Any chance for Denon to replace the AVP-A1HD and POA-A1HD?

Anyone heard about anything? Any rumour?

There was a post in the 4520 thread a few days ago (and now most of it has been removed it appears) from someone in the business that says he was recently at a CI training session or conference and was told about three upcoming models which are reportedly the denon X5200 X7200 X9200. I believe these will be AVR's and he said the top model will have a retail price of $5299.

I have no idea how accurate this is and a google search provided absolutely no information at the time but it did make me happy to see Denon (reportedly) returning to more high end equipment.

I still have and use my 5805CI and have been keeping an eye out for a good price on an upgraded AVP but definitely wish it had some of the features of the new X4000 series that the 4520 "flagship" doesn't even have.

I think next year's models (if this is true) may finally give me reason to upgrade and actually feel like it is an upgrade instead of a downgrade where it counts (build quality, DAC's, analog stage, etc) if the above noted models actually come to fruition.

Has anyone else heard of these new models or Denon returning to producing more high end AVR's and/or Pre-Pro's?

I haven't heard anything at all about a POA replacement, though.

--J
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Originally Posted by jevansoh View Post

There was a post in the 4520 thread a few days ago (and now most of it has been removed it appears) from someone in the business that says he was recently at a CI training session or conference and was told about three upcoming models which are reportedly the denon X5200 X7200 X9200. I believe these will be AVR's and he said the top model will have a retail price of $5299.

I have no idea how accurate this is and a google search provided absolutely no information at the time but it did make me happy to see Denon (reportedly) returning to more high end equipment.

I still have and use my 5805CI and have been keeping an eye out for a good price on an upgraded AVP but definitely wish it had some of the features of the new X4000 series that the 4520 "flagship" doesn't even have.

I think next year's models (if this is true) may finally give me reason to upgrade and actually feel like it is an upgrade instead of a downgrade where it counts (build quality, DAC's, analog stage, etc) if the above noted models actually come to fruition.

Has anyone else heard of these new models or Denon returning to producing more high end AVR's and/or Pre-Pro's?

I haven't heard anything at all about a POA replacement, though.

--J

I have my doubt if the asked really cares much he seems to jump from thread to thread asking the same question and then moving on. He either just likes to ask questions or can never make up his mind. On the topic of if D&M is making new models we are sure, we heard (and have no reason to believe this has changed) marantz will be the highend and denon will take the lower road. We also heard some talk of a 9000 model for marantz a few months back. My guess is that internally they are designing a new shared platform and still have the option open to move it between the two brands. Also remember most of the A1 lines where announced 2 or 3 years before so them admitting on working on something doesn't say much until they ship. with the good sales of the 4520/8801 i can see how they would design one step up but with the same ideas of reuse. So i can see a 5308 level machine with and without amps but i doubt we will see a design as different and on its own as the avp.

But i could be wrong with the internal shakeups over the last few years inside D&M you never know.

Daniel.
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Good day gents,

I own the AVC-A1HDA and cant find a forum for that particular unit, but believe it is similar to these units. In quite a state at the moment over it, as it is something I could never replace, monetary wise, as these units are so expensive here in South Africa. Well the story goes while powering up the amp and getting sound and picture I changed the source to the ps3, as it was changing over, there was a pop that came through a speaker and the unit shutdown with a blinking/flashing red power light. To my dismay, I knew this was bad!!! Turn the power off completely with the small/main power switch and then back on, the unit tries to boot up but promptly shuts down again with flashing red power light. It seems she is damaged! and according to manual, it says contact Denon. I don't think I have that luxury living so far away. Has anyone else experienced this and have an idea of fixing. It is my baby, and really don't want to have to buy a new cheap unit, that will never bring me the satisfaction that this one has. Thanks in advance.
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It does sound like a part went out which will require shipping to a service center.

Your only other option is the do a complete system reset. Check your manual on how to do that.
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Yeah I was afraid of that... Have already done the system reset, and still no joy. Bleak.. Thanks for your help anyway
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Probably a problem to the power-power suply, it has to be checked on the bench.
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Yeah who knows but the techie wink.gif Dropped it off today at the Denon distributors. So waiting for the dreaded quote to come thru... Honestly am crapin my pants eek.gif
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The AVC-A1HDA is the same as the USA model AVR-5308CI, correct? If so, there's a thread for the 5308 here that you may find useful.
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Thanks, tried that thread sometime ago with another issue, and was prompted to head to this thread.. Oh well, no worries will just find another place wink.gif
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Originally Posted by A1HDA View Post

Thanks, tried that thread sometime ago with another issue, and was prompted to head to this thread.. Oh well, no worries will just find another place wink.gif

No its fine, it is indeed the same as the 5308 so that thread makes more sense. I see you already have shipped it to denon so i guess its waiting now. A shutdown like that sounds most of the time as something going wrong in the signal path and than feeding a max signal into the power unit part thats why it shut down (to protect the amps and speakers). Normally i would advice to remove all speaker wires and test and test with a headphone etc etc but seems we are too late for that now. Most of the time if a denon receiver shuts down like this its a short in the wires. Now i had a marantz 8801 doing it to the POA (when my avp was out of order) so it does happen (and thats good news) on a overload but not on bootup already.

Would not be shocked if it was really damaged on the input side of things it turns out to be the digital audio board and you are looking at a 500 to 600 euro part cost (not sure if its the same for a avp and avc my guess its 50% of the pathways but price is the same ish).

Daniel.

PS: i am sure gsr didn't want to scare you away just pointing our a better thread but feel free to update us on that happens next, not sure why they send you to us maybe because we are nicer smile.gif

PS2: if it turns out to the digital board its interesting to know if it had/has the 3d upgrade board installed over the last year since something might have been gone wrong as a result of that.
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how do you turn off the Audessey completely?

I see how I can override the speaker distances and volume levels but how do I set my own EQ levels ?
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There is a manual equalizer setting. Its part of the menu choices. You have to create your own curve.
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Originally Posted by A1HDA View Post

Thanks, tried that thread sometime ago with another issue, and was prompted to head to this thread.. Oh well, no worries will just find another place wink.gif
I suspect you were pointed to this thread because someone got confused and thought you were asking about the AVP-A1HDCI given how the AVC-A1HDA model number seems more similar than the AVR-5308CI. I wasn't trying to "get rid of you", just trying to point out that the other thread should be more useful to you. I suspect that if you point out in that thread that AVC-A1HDA is the model number used for the AVR-5308CI in other parts of the world, it will help with any confusion.
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Originally Posted by danielo View Post

No its fine, it is indeed the same as the 5308 so that thread makes more sense.

PS: i am sure gsr didn't want to scare you away just pointing our a better thread but feel free to update us on that happens next, not sure why they send you to us maybe because we are nicer smile.gif
Exactly. I was just trying to point him to the correct thread.
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