Official Denon AVP-A1HD/AVP-A1HDCI and POA-A1HD/POA-A1HDCI owners thread. - Page 149

Hai Roger,

I 100% got what they mean that the reason to stay with 110ohm is mostly because they will be build as balanced cable. Thank you for making it even more clear that that is the biggest reason from the ourside the cables look 100% the same (except for the aes/ebu 110ohm markings).

Daniel.

I use the L/R because those subs are located with the mains and I can use them with two channel material. I plan on exerimenting on higher x-overs since I won't have to worry about sub localization. The Rythmik Servo's are incredibly accurate so that gives me the option. Right now 2ch sounds excellent with my mains crossed at 60hz.

Thanks rnrgagne. For movies do you have your speakers set to small or large? ( I am now using small & THX as an experiment despite the low frequency capabilities of the speakers).

I also lucked out again with Audyssey and 4 positions. I guess it wasn't meant to be.

I just leave them at 60hz -set to small. Their FR is good down to about 40hz but 60hz seems to be a good sweet-spot.

Your comment about Audyssey reads like an oxymoron, can you elaborate?

(Over here "lucked out" means you got good results, but then you said it wasn't meant to be?)

I have my AVP connected by wired network, so not completely familiar with the AVP's wireless configuration process.

Were you waiting for it to connect to the network (i.e. successfully log in via password, get IP address, etc), or did that work and you had tried to go to NET and find a media server/Internet radio?

If the former, I'd check to see if your wireless router sees the AVP as a client, and what state it thinks things are in.

If it's getting an IP address, but can't access Internet Radio, I'd check that the gateway and DNS settings are correct, and that you don't have a firewall in the way.

If the problem is media server connection, that's a longer discussion of the pros/cons of WMP sharing, twonky, tversity, fuddes, etc.

eric

hi tassop ? why only 4 positions ? i havent asked chris from audyssey over in the official audyssey thread I'd heartedly suggest asking him re what would be the best mic measurement positions and sequnece it can have quite a drastic effect on the end result so very important in getting that right

I'm doing the same as suggested and found adds very nicely for 5.1 sources

What does it actually do? Just send the surround channels to the back as well, or somehow reprocess the existing signals to come up with something different for those two extra channels? (Sorry if this is a dumb question....)

I just got my modified Sonos back yesterday. While I haven't had the opportunity to really sit and do some critical, comparative listening, I have hooked it up and played a little music. So far it sounds great, and the AVP does indeed accept its 96kHz output.

For clarification, I don't really use DVD-Audio, only CD, so virtually everything I have is recorded at 16-bit anyway, not 24. While 24/96 is kind of the holy grail in audio, and the AVP should accept it, according to its specs, I'm not sure how much real world content one would actually play at 24/96. Can anyone elaborate?

One other question: JonFo, where did you get that 1.5Mbit/s limitation for the SPDIF interface? I've never seen that anywhere else, and if true, it seems not even 16/96 stereo LPCM should pass over SPDIF. But it clearly does.

hi prog its using thx ultra2 post processing to get the 7.1 rear info. in ronin for instance which is only a dts-hdma 5.1 track in the scene where the van comes to pick them up and drop them off at the start. the van moves in and out from the rear stage due to the effects speaker and into the side via the side surrounds. thats sort effect steering is jsut not there if just watch as 5.1 worth a shot to see for yourself if of value to you

I love that movie and I'm familiar with the scene. I may run a 7.1 set-up temporarily just to check it out! (I want 7.1 SO bad, but the room I have makes side speaker placement very difficult. )

So I just started to setup the Denon for 7.1 and it seems that using surround BACK isn't ideal. The graphics on screen seem to indicate that if you have the rears speakers in the corners that surround B is the way to go; surround Back seems to be more or less in the rear center. Further, the Denon wants to know if you have 1 'back' or 2 and it doesn't let you go full range (as opposed to surround B which does).

Is anyone with a 7.1 setup using Surrounds A & B vs A & Back? What do I lose by doing this?

Nevermind, I see that it just duplicates the signal from surroundA to surroundB.

Crap. I wanted some control over the crossover of the surround Back.

Can someone help me out?

Trying to run Audyssey for 7.2 and it only does 5.2. Does Audyssey not work for the Surround Back channels?

I guess I thought 4 positions would be enough for Audyssey to get it right. The results I get seem very consistent however I try. I have turned my projector off, had everyone in the house remain silent. made sure all the planets were in alignment and prayed to the Audyssey gods - to no avail.

I am thinking that the problem is simply that I don't like what Audyssey does. In particular I did like the extended bass definition, but I found the slight sibilant touch it gave to the midrange grating on the senses. I will give the Audyssey experts a go, however, to see if I have tried everything.

yes a big fan of that movie indeed !

good luck setting it up, look forward to reading how you find it


hi ian, I'd be very suprised if you cant control the xover setting on the suround backs on mine you most defintely can adjust that under the advanced section of the xover setup. there is a setting that tells it how far apart your surround backs are placed as well. If you go into THX audio setup. there is a setting for SB speaker position mine is set on over 1.2m apart. you can set that to under 0.3m or 0.3 to 1.2m as well.

the B speakers I think are just an intermdiate in between side surrounds and the rears and believe they help for those rooms where have multiple rows or where big distance between the sides and the backs

Ian,

To get Audyssey to run a 7.2 exercise, at the commencement of the auto setup routine, you will need to select '7.1' as the configuration, next choose your subwoofer configuration ( ie 2 subs and either L/R or Mixed) at the next step. Audyssey will then run through for the 7.2 setup.

it most defintely can for surround back channels and 7.1 as thats what I have. it all comes back to what speaker setup you tell it you have

apart from setting up yoru speaker config to whatever you have. you also need to tell it what speaker config you have when you run audyssey. I remember telling it I ha a 7.1 setup and thats what the audyssey calibration was done on

I jusr finished watching Pans labyrinth on HD DVD DTS HD MA 7.1 and that uses the surround back and surrounds very well.Lovey film also, best international film in my books.

My surround back channels are not in the centre but it seems to still work very well indeed. As a result I haven't been bothered to reposition them closer.

Tassop they reckon a minimum of 6 pos to get it right.I used to do mine when family asleep. But not happy what Audysssey does for me either i guess it's good for some and not for others.I had room treatement installed by a calibrator and was told by an Audyseey installer here in Australia that it will improve but it did not.Mind you would not have minded to try the pro series if it was availble for us.

Mine arent either and find it with all this new DTS HD MA work extremely well.They independentley work for themselves and i found they opened up my surround stage.

You can manually control the crossover for the surround back.

Is the difficulty in respect of places to mount speakers on the wall or in the placement of stands? In terms of the latter, there is a fair bit of flexibility to experiment with placement and still get excellent results.

have any of you looked at ceiling spekers, im using a sealed pair for Surround backs Focal profile IW 908 and they do an amazing job. I was not a big believer in celing speakers until i demoed for myself. There are many HT room that are using ceiling speakers for surrounds.

Also try out a movie encoded with 7.1 discrete channels - like The Bank Job

An enjoyable film bank job was.

You answered my question even before I asked. As I mentioned, I think I might do a temporary 7.1 set-up tonight or tomorrow. I wanted to test alebonau's 5.1 to 7.1 conversion suggestion with Ronin, and others. But I was also going to ask if anyone could suggest some good 7.1 movies.

Can you recommend any others along with Pan's Labyrinth? I'm sure I have some, but never paid much attention to which of my HDs and BDs have 7ch sound, since I don't use it. And my lazy self figured it was easier to ask than to go through them all and check.

Wall mount is pretty much out of the question, as the left wall of my HT room is nearly all glass doors. (I'd only have about a foot right up at the ceiling for a little speaker....kind of pointless to even try.) I do have an extra pair of bipolar towers as well as an excellent pair of bookshelf speakers w/stands that would all blend pretty well with my existing speakers. In either case, the left one would be right in front of those glass doors and kind of intrude into the room.

I'll probably try the towers in this temp set-up idea. Who knows, if the sound is really that much better, I could just string up a velvet rope around the left side surround and tell people to crawl over the couch!

if you do that make sure you take some pics he he.