Official Denon AVP-A1HD/AVP-A1HDCI and POA-A1HD/POA-A1HDCI owners thread. - Page 154

Hi progprog, BR's are certainly rippable right now. The biggest problem at the moment is the PLAYBACK (not the ripping) of the HD Codecs. It's easy enough to play back the DTS core and DD+ and this is via streaming in one form or another. The only way i can think of at the moment that would allow the HD codecs to play back in full would be to play it back (backup's) to physical media.

Although this year we are meant to see various products that should allow the playback of the HD Codecs from the PC.

Thanks for clarifying!

Rhapsody interface

anyone using the Rhapsody service over the AVP?

it seems very slow and navigation is poor [using wired high speed ethernet]

I signed on for two week trial

is it just me?

KrellAV

Haven't yet. I used a trial last year through Sonos, but didn't subscribe. I'm not surprised that it would be slow through the AVP, since the AVP browser is pretty bad.

Is the trial you're doing through Denon or Rhapsody? I might give it a look....

first I installed Rhapsody on my PC: once set up, go into AVP PC link, find the log in page for Rhapsody, and it will connect (hit PLAY on the NET/USB input page)

Rhapsody over the PC is pretty quick: they certainly have a large choice of songs

I have been integrating an AppleTV / iTouch, and an iPod interface to an Escient system that does whole house audio & video: I think that is the best interface I have seen so far

Don't know if you're familiar with Paul McGowan over at PS Audio, but his most recent newsletter goes into great detail about this Apple TV/iPod Touch combination. Of course, he combines it with PS Audio's DLIII DAC, and feels it's about the best DIY music server you can get. And for far less than fancy dedicated systems. (http://www.psaudio.com/newsletters/7-08.asp) I've been thinking about getting an iPod Touch just to try and play with web control of the AVP with it. Mind you, I really have absolutely no use for this added function. Just sounds kinda cool.


But as regards your original question- the AVP as a web browser is painfully slow. I just can't bring myself to use any of its NET functions. This is why I've been going to so much trouble with the Sonos. BTW, if you haven't tried Pandora yet, give it a look. It's my favorite music service.

I may have missed it as been quite busy lately..But I would like to know what others were using before they turned to the Denon....

Crazy as it may sound, I've owned both a Meridian and Halcro, which is ironically built down the road from me...Moving over to the Denon I don't have any regrets, despite being called mad in some quarters...I just like the Denon...

I don't care if it don't scream high end out at me, or is badged by Lexicon/Meridian/Krell. I just think its a bloody good product and well worth every penny of anyone's mullah...

Its only job for me is HT...And when my cinema is built, this will certainly be my centre piece...

I agree. With that said, I had the Lexicon MC-12B then a Krell S1000, before "graduating" to the AVP. No regrets, no worries. Enjoy!

Prog, you and others are highlighting one of the few challenges with the AVP, and that is its Net/USB browser is just not ideal for the task, and probably never will be.

This is why getting Denon to add support for a remote command to start plating a given playlist or track is so important to have in the next Firmware update.

If we lobby Denon for this, then others can solve the UI navigation problem (a la iPod touch) and then just tell the AVP to play the selected track or playlist.

I love the fact that the AVP can stream and decode media internally. From an audio quality standpoint this is the ideal situation. But to truly achieve Nirvana, the AVP needs to have commands to tell it what to play over the network.

I already wrote up the proposed command structure on the WiKi.

If you agree with that, please add comments in that thread below the article at the Wiki site.

I was thinking that the effects of daisy chaining would be negated if you ran auto setup. The AVP would read the output of say 2 subs and adjust as if it were one. It would work if you manually calibrated the subs, in which case you could use a Y connector on one of the RCA outputs, and increase the level for that channel to compensate.

One other recommendation - a good pair of ear protectors!!

Wow! I have both Apple TV and Ipod touch and was lamenting the lack of Sonos style of interface. This could do the trick and being digitally connected it will not need outboard DACs to sound good.

When you first posed the question on this forum I was wondering what your reaction to the 5910/AVP combo via Denon Link would be. IMO it is extremely hard to beat the sound from DVDs, CDs and SACDs that the AVP can produce from Denon Link.

I ended up keeping my 5805ci (A1XVA) to replace older separates in another setup. For the price I could get secondhand, I figured it would blow the doors off anything else for that amount of money and it can handle and switch all sources impeccably.

Will do thanks Mark

I've had a denon A1XVA before this product.I've had yamahas,Pioneers,Sony but always found Denon the best.Mind you I was looking at a HAlcro at simply Hifi they sounded nice.

Mark Would not be suprised if they do Something similar in the near future.

Something interesting here:
http://www.oddsock.org/tools/edcast/

Added support for oggFLAC streaming. A note about this, currently as the release of this plugin, there are very very few clients that actually support oggFLAC streaming. The only one I found was on the windows platform here : http://www.illiminable.com/ogg/ (not this one). Installing those filters will allow you to play oggFLAC streams from within Windows Media Player. Currently Winamp and Foobar2k do NOT work. Hopefully this will change in the future. Also, streaming oggFLAC is really only good for LAN streaming as it is lossless and very high bitrate. There is currently no way to "configure" any oggFLAC options. Also, you need to use the latest Icecast (2.3.0) in order to support oggFLAC streaming.

I've now added the ability to choose which soundcard to use if you are doing live streaming. A few people have asked for this.

I've upgraded the aotuv DLLs to the latest (4.5) version.


I havn't tested this yet as mine AVP is sent in for service.
Think I have it here tomorrow or friday hopefully. AND I cross finger that AVP do support lossless on Radio streaming. Manual says only mp3 and ac3 or something.

Don't get mad - get even!! (sort of). There are not many countries that have open competition in their markets. The USA comes the closest in western countries and in order for manufacturers to succeed they need to have a 'best practice' approach to customer service and to enhance the buying experience.

In most parts of Europe and in Australia the markets are much smaller and restrictive than the USA, and consumers put up with way too much crap. Many USA and virtually all Asian retailers are more likely than those in Aust to break ranks with their peers on pricing.

My solution is buy from those countries that practice proper market competition (read lowest prices!). Also to encourage as many people as possible to do the same.

There are some extremely efficient retailers in Hong Kong, Singapore and in the USA who rely upon international sales for their livelihood. As a consequence their service has been exemplary (my AVP arrived from Hong Kong within 3 days of ordering and after it was tested prior to shipment).

It is the internet that has created the level playing field.

I had the Anthem D1 and for a very short time had the Krell S1000 prior to the Denon. I would not go back to either of the others.

The UK site specs state Silicon Optix Realta video processing on the 2500BT


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been mentioned here and whether or not the AVP is compatible with it? I understand there is a new Denon universal type player to be released next year. I doubt I would have any interest given I have the DVD-5910 and the BD-3800 but the mention of DL-IV has made me curious as to what it would do differently than the current DL-III version. My assumption is it will pass the BD encoded audio signal. If this is the case, given my experience with HDMI vs DL-III using my 5910, that may give another significant leap in SQ to BD.

Thanks in advance for your insights!

KrellAV

The AVP should be compatible, I'm sure you'd have the option in the new player to select DL III format as the output. Since the connector itself hasn't varied I wouldn't be surprised if the DL III in the AVP would be upgradeable to IV.

Ive been using a AppleTV and iphone 3G in this way for a few weeks now works fine. I do miss small things like coverflow.

Daniel.

Where i can't see anything on their website stating that. I also highly doubt they changed it for the euro model.

Daniel.

Well thats what has my attention, is the pass through of BD encoded signal through the Denon Link.Also the balanced XLR outputs for stereo playback has got many very intrested also.but at this moment what you know is what we all know so it will be very intersting when it comes about at cedia and we get to see the specs.

I agree also it will be a firmware upgrade through the AVP. At a cost mind you.

Excellent write-up, Jonathon. I couldn't agree more, as I'm a firm believer that there's no such thing as too many direct/discrete codes. Directly accessing anything in the net interface is an excellent way to go, as it's the slow navigation that makes it practically unusable to me.

I would suggest that, if possible, a user should be able to create/save a direct command to any point in the net audio interface, whether it's their internet radio favorites, a specific media server playlist, or their Rhapsody account, to name a few examples. This would allow a user to make a control interface customized around their particular usage of the net audio features. Would your suggested command protocol allow for that? It seems like the parameter string [DNLA compliant DMS path string] should accommodate any net path, but I'm not savvy enough about these things to understand all the details.

Cool tassop! Let us know if you set-it up and how it works. It looks like it could be an excellent solution, based on McGowan's description. [BTW, do you agree with his assessment that the Apple TV has awful DACs? I took that with a grain of salt as he certainly would think that his company's standalone DAC is way better.....]

It feels like people ignores mine posts here

Mark, I think you're on to something here and I agree with the concept holehartedly. My response on this topic became sufficiently verbose that I thought it more appropriate to start a thread on it in the BR player section for those who are interested: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...1#post14401351

Eric