Official Denon AVP-A1HD/AVP-A1HDCI and POA-A1HD/POA-A1HDCI owners thread. - Page 185

Waboman, if you have the option, you want to use 4:4:4, but it really depends on how the source material was encoded.

Here's some info:

Thanks Jonfo.

That was a great explanation! I'm still a little fuzzy on YCbCr vs RGB. I know, basic stuff. Sorry guys.

When I get home tonight I'm going to set it for 4:4:4. Should rock!

Thanks for asking this Waboman, as i have never been to sure my self. Also thanks to JonFo for the answer he gave.


I can certainly atest to this. It is very helpful, along with the wonderful people in this thread.

Scott

I know, it's confusing stuff:

for the YCbCr vs RGB discussion:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=780809

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YCbCr

I'm psyched, my Denon AVP-A1HDCI is arriving tomorrow...

Hey Mark welcome, very impressive HT room btw mate. I noticed that you are have 4 Jl audio fathom 113. Looking forward in getting my 2 hopefully by the end of this month also(they come by ship due to weight). You have some serious gear I have to say 'absolutley amazing'.

Thanks. My name is Jeff though... Mark Twain is the name of the historic figure who I quoted in my signature.

oops sorry Jeff

Thanks again, Jonfo!

I feel a bit smarter this morning and I haven't even had my coffee yet.

I think there's been a lot of water under the bridge since your original AVP/POA combo, not just for Denon but all manufacturers. It's easy to get used to a certain sound, which you would do having had that combo for so long. I on the other hand have had a revolving door of equipment from a variety of companies over the last five years and to these ears the most noticeable improvement besides the ever increasing quality of the room EQ's is the top end resolution.
It's not uncommon, depending on the room, for people to interpret this as "bright" sounding. I'm not saying this is what's happening in your case, I haven't heard your original AVP or the current POA, but it's something to keep in the back of your mind.
The other thing is, that I and a few others have had similar findings early on, heck I thought it sounded no different than a mid priced receiver out of the box. But with either a bit of "break in" and proper configuration most have gotten the performance expected out the AVP for its' price point.

Well everyone, as of last week I am now officially a new AVP owner. Here's a couple pics of the new addition to my family.


(I knowthe pics are fuzzy. But like a proud parent, I want to show off my new arrival.) I'm just doing a dry run here to check interconnect and other cable lengths. The rack itself will be full by the time I finish with it. It will then go into a cabinet in a separate room behind the one that contains my display and speakers.

Unfortunately, due to a myriad of construction and install delays (including a delay due to a couple of hurricanes advancing toward the eastern US) it will probably be another week or two before I can actually turn the thing on for the first time. While I'm sure I'll need more help with the various setup options as I go along, I do have an initial install question I'm hoping someone can help me with.

My question concerns headphone listening via a headphone amp. Initially I thought I'd be using a balanced headphone amp. It was suggested (thanks, Progprog!) that I reassign a pair of unused L&R balanced pre-outs to accomplish this. However, my plans have changed to where I'll be using an unbalanced headphone amp with L&R RCA inputsand the pre-out setup I'll be using is also no longer as straight forward as it was going to be.

I'll be using balanced pre-outs to go to a pair of balanced mono amps for the front mains, and I'll be using the unbalanced RCA pre-outs to go to a 5ch amp for the center and side and back surrounds (a 7.1 setup).

My headphone listening goals are as follows:

1. I want to be able to listen to headphones for CD or streamed/networked music without any audio going through the loudspeakers (i.e., normal headphone listening).
   
2. I wish to be able to control the headphone volume from the headphone amp rather than from the AVP.
   
3. At the same time I'm listening to music, video should be available so that I can have the option of viewing the AVP's OSD/GUI (to select networked playlists, etc) -AND/OR- be able to do some silent TV watching. (I do not anticipate needing to listen to TV or BD player audio through the headphones.)

The person on the install team that will be programming a Universal MX980 remote for me isn't quite clear on how such a setup would work. In all fairness, his company doesn't sell Denon products so I can't expect him to know how to connect up for every option.

I'd really be grateful if I could get some ideas on how I should hook things up. Would reassigment of preouts still be the best way...or is there something I could do with a second zone setup? I'm somewhat new to modern pre/pros and AVRs that offer all these options, so I can use all the help I can get.

Thanks,

-Dean

progprog: How did you get Flac files to stream to your AVP without Twonky? Unless I have Twonky running on my NAS, the MediaServer comes up empty.

I have a Netgear ReadyNAS, which can supposedly act as a DNLA device, but the AVP cannot "see" anything in the folder. I have not dug too deep into this yet...probably some setting or formatting thing.

Mark

I just tried to log onto my NAS to see exactly what the server settings are, but the Frontview utility seems to be not working correctly, as I can't get to any of its pages. So speaking only in generalities, there is a section where you "turn on" media server functions. (It's the same page where you can enable the iTunes server, Slimserver, etc.) I can't remember which settings I've got, so let me figure out this Frontview problem and I'll report back. I can tell you for sure, though, that I access it without Twonky, as I've never tried that at all.

I poked around the NetGear site and found this:


Could this (Firefly) be the feature that you are turing on with Frontview? If so it sounds similar to Twonky.

http://www.fireflymediaserver.org/

Is there a way to send a 1080p blu-ray signal, for example, and have the AVP pass it thru unaltered and on the same input send a 480i signal from an SD disc and have the AVP upconvert it to 1080p?

That would depend on how you have your playback device set up. If you have it set to not upconvert then this is exactly what will happen. BD are 1080P and SDVD's are 480 by default.

I currently have my blu-ray set at "source direct." However, when I send an SD signal, my AVP passes it thru and my display ends up converting it to 1080p. I would like the AVP to do this.

If you set the AVP to do H to H conversion with a resolution setting of 1080p it will upconvert SD content to 1080p/60 and "pass-through" Blu Ray's 1080p/24 if that's what you're after.

Frontview has the following streaming services:

Slimserver
iTunes Streaming Server
UPnP AV (DLNA compliant)
Home Media Streaming Server

I was hoping to use the UPnP AV service with the AVP, but I think I might need to have all the music in the \\\\NAS\\media\\Music folder. Right now I dumped iTunes into that folder, so the songs are buried in "nested" folders. Perhaps that is the issue.

I burned a CD in .WAV using iTunes, so maybe I just have to move that file to the "root" music folder.

I enabled the service, but did not do anything else. The Frontview manual was not much help.

Mark

Hello,

Just started the hunt for a new pre/pro that will support all of the new formats...

I currently have a Krell Showcase with a KAV 3250

Speakers Dynaudio C1's
Dyn Center
Sunfire Sub.

Any opinions how the Denon would pair with speakers etc?

Thanks

Okay, I just got in to see what was going on. (For some reason, it was a browser thing...Frontview isn't working in Firefox, I had to dust off IE7 .) Maybe it is Firefly, which I hadn't even noticed before. I also have iTunes enabled so that my son can access my music library on his computer. And you're right, the Frontview documentation, like most of the Netgear documentation, is pretty worthless.

Below is a screenshot to show you my settings. (On the "Discovery Services" page, I have UPnP and Bonjour both enabled.) As you can see, it's the entire media share for which I have UPnP AV enabled. "Music " is a sub-folder on that share, and all my music is, in turn, within folders there based on artist. So in effect, virtually all the actual music files are buried 3-4 folders down (i.e., media/music/bob dylan/*.flac). So you definitely don't need to have the files in the root folder.

On the AVP, I select "Media Server" from the Net Audio options, and then "ReadyNAS" from the list of servers. When I then select the "Music" folder to browse, I'm given the option to do that by artist, album, genre, etc. (Is it becoming clear why I prefer the Sonos interface...)

So basically, that's how I access musci on my ReadyNAS from the AVP. I don't kow if any of that was helpful, but maybe will give you some ideas about your own settings.

Incidentally, when I select "Media Server" from the Net Audio options, the list includes all my Sonos zone players. I can select any of them and pull up my saved Sonos playlists...isn't that weird?? I have no idea why the AVP is able to access them like that, as the Sonos interface is supposed to be closed.

Thanks. I have the same settings in Frontview, so all good there. I do not recall if the one time I tried accessing with the AVP (via the web GUI) I followed your procedure above.

Alas, that will have to wait until tomorrow night...bedtime for bonzo.

Mark

That's exactly what I'm after. On the same input I want the AVP to let a 1080/24p signal pass, while upconverting a 480i to 1080p.

Do I want "video convert" on/off? Are these the proper settings? I want "A to H & H to H?"

Thanks for the welcomes!

I've started the initial setup. I got my Denon DVD-5910 working with the Denon AVP via Denon Link. How confusing that was... I had to have both HDMI and Denon Link hooked up at the same time for it to start working. I spent 30 minutes standing around looking stupid and fiddling with other things until I tried hooking the HDMI up simultaneously.

I assume that if the Denon Link is appearing on the display screen of the AVP that it is working?

Thanks.

Yep it is working... Denon Link set to 3, and SACD is coming through. HDMI can't carry that at all on the DVD-5910. How exciting!

Obviously you're using the HDMI input so just H to H with video convert on plus you have to set the video output resolution to 1080p for that input source & that'll do the trick.