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post #6691 of 25153
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Originally Posted by rnrgagne View Post

I had a couple of weird things happen post upgrade an a hard reset was the answer to getting things back on track. After the last 110min upgrade I decided to re-do my Audyssey Pro calibration and it wouldn't recongize my AVP until I reset.

thanks for your input. Talking about audyssey pro, are you pleased with it? I just placed an order and I am a little worried for the complexity of the process.
post #6692 of 25153
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Originally Posted by JonFo View Post

It's gone on mine as well. A GUI change it seems.

This correletates to the change I noted earlier, that the PARA button will now toggle the various Dynamic EQ / Dynamic Volume combinations as being new in this edition.

You can still adjust the baseline Audyssey setting per source in the usual
Menu->Parameters->Audio->Audyssey Settings

So,t there is no need for hard reset then.
That means the option to restore all sorces to default audyssey is history? I would have thought that is could have been a usefull function.
post #6693 of 25153
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Originally Posted by JonFo View Post

The 85dB is just that, a playback level. This is typically a level at which most people listen to a movie at home. And my point is it can be energizing resonances that were not when the measurements are taken at 75dB.

In regards to calibration levels...

85db is what we calibrate theaters for (85 for the LCR, 82 for each surround channel, and 89-91 for the sub)... when mastering for home theater, we usually shoot for 80db for all channels (except the sub) as a reference playback level... if most people are listening to playback at home at a cal level of 85db = reference, their ears should be hurting.
post #6694 of 25153
Whilr going through the menue tonight I have found that since doing the firmware upgrade, I now no longer have HDMI as an option on DVD or CD. Also no HDMI option on TV/CBL(this was where I had my HD DVD connected). Anyone else have this problem?
post #6695 of 25153
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Originally Posted by nethomas View Post

Whilr going through the menue tonight I have found that since doing the firmware upgrade, I now no longer have HDMI as an option on DVD or CD. Also no HDMI option on TV/CBL(this was where I had my HD DVD connected). Anyone else have this problem?

Looks like there were a bunch of GUI issues, but they seem to be resolved by a hard reset.
post #6696 of 25153
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Originally Posted by FilmMixer View Post

In regards to calibration levels...

85db is what we calibrate theaters for (85 for the LCR, 82 for each surround channel, and 89-91 for the sub)... when mastering for home theater, we usually shoot for 80db for all channels (except the sub) as a reference playback level... if most people are listening to playback at home at a cal level of 85db = reference, their ears should be hurting.

So your saying that HT room are at 80db? What do you use to calibrate them? I find SPL meter not exactly accurate.
post #6697 of 25153
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Originally Posted by orologio View Post

thanks for your input. Talking about audyssey pro, are you pleased with it? I just placed an order and I am a little worried for the complexity of the process.

I love it, wouldn't buy anything without it or at least the equivalent.
The actual process is not more complicated than the on board Audyssey.
You do need access to the RS232 port on the back of the unit though. The mic stand that comes with the kit is way easier to work with than a tripod and the program is pretty much paint by numbers. I highly recommend that you stop after three measurement to check the settings before going on. Look to make sure the speaker distances are correct and that there's no wacky crossover settings, if all is good you just hit the back arrow and continue on to more measurements.
post #6698 of 25153
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Originally Posted by orologio View Post

So,t there is no need for hard reset then.
That means the option to restore all sorces to default audyssey is history? I would have thought that is could have been a usefull function.


No need for a reset from what I can see. They jsut made some changes.

That setting was a bit suspect, as it seemed to me to be a one-time default setting that sources would inherit, but once a source is configured, that this global setting was ignored. I could be wrong, but that was my impression.
post #6699 of 25153
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Originally Posted by rnrgagne View Post

I love it, wouldn't buy anything without it or at least the equivalent.
The actual process is not more complicated than the on board Audyssey.
You do need access to the RS232 port on the back of the unit though. The mic stand that comes with the kit is way easier to work with than a tripod and the program is pretty much paint by numbers. I highly recommend that you stop after three measurement to check the settings before going on. Look to make sure the speaker distances are correct and that there's no wacky crossover settings, if all is good you just hit the back arrow and continue on to more measurements.

That's a fantastic news, beeing able to repeat the last measurement. I am in a enviroment where sudden noises are heard and that would be ideal way to run audyssey. I am looking forward to it. Thanks
post #6700 of 25153
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Originally Posted by nethomas View Post

Whilr going through the menue tonight I have found that since doing the firmware upgrade, I now no longer have HDMI as an option on DVD or CD. Also no HDMI option on TV/CBL(this was where I had my HD DVD connected). Anyone else have this problem?

are you talking about Sorce >Assign>Hdmi...? It does appear on mine
post #6701 of 25153
This weekend, I completed my very first firmware update. First, I attempted to see the current firmware version by using the procedure posted here, and it did not work for me.

So, I went in to check, and it said there was a 124 minute update available, and off I went. The top line showed the current item under revision and the overall time remaining. The second line showed varying status messages (Downloading, Updating) and a % count when downloading.

Everything went smooth, and the update actually took 130 minutes. I also ran Audyssey this weekend, but will post those details in the Audyssey thread.

I am going to have to check out the new 1080p/24 option also.

Mark
post #6702 of 25153
Yes, orologio, mine dosen't offer HDMI as an option in the menu!
post #6703 of 25153
Hi all,

Well, I'm running out of stuff to setup so I was wondering what your opinions are of going with XLR interconnects between the pre/amp? Good, bad or no big deal idea?

Thanks!

John
post #6704 of 25153
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Originally Posted by Aesculus View Post

I am a bit confused here. I understand the channel setting feature in the AVP as well as Audyssey runs at 75 db.

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Originally Posted by JonFo View Post

The 85dB is just that, a playback level. This is typically a level at which most people listen to a movie at home.

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Originally Posted by FilmMixer View Post

In regards to calibration levels...

85db is what we calibrate theaters for (85 for the LCR, 82 for each surround channel, and 89-91 for the sub)... when mastering for home theater, we usually shoot for 80db for all channels (except the sub) as a reference playback level... if most people are listening to playback at home at a cal level of 85db = reference, their ears should be hurting.

Hi Marc,

I'm still confused by these different quoted values regarding calibration levels.

As was pointed out, Audyssey calibrates levels to 75dB. It also considers 75dB as "reference" when applying it's Dynamic EQ feature.

Are you saying that DVDs, HD DVDs and Blu-ray discs are usually mixed to a reference of about 80dB for non-LFE channels? If so, wouldn't this 5dB discrepancy throw off Audyssey's Dynamic EQ?

By the way, I've always noticed that, in general, even over SPDIF, HD DVDs were mixed at significantly lower levels (~10dB) than DVDs. (I'm not referring to any problems experienced with low bass levels when using analog audio, etc.) I attributed this lowering of mixing levels as simply due to the studios compensating for the increase in dynamic range for HD DVD media and this was done as a precaution to reduce the likelihood of overtaxing consumer equipment. Could you please elaborate on these observations? Any truth to my speculation?

By the way, have you had a chance to listen to Dynamic EQ? If so, I would value your opinion regarding it's effectiveness.

Thanks.

Larry
post #6705 of 25153
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Originally Posted by ohyeah32 View Post

Hi Frank,

First off I need to clarify something from my above post. When I mentioned that I needed to enter in the MAC address, I should have put "enter MAC address into router" (I will correct this). When looking at the Network Info page on the AVP it shows the MAC address. Interestingly on my router I had to add the MAC address before it recognized my AVP.

So I guess a lot depends on what brand router one uses and what it requires in order to allow a particular device permission.


Seth

Thanks. I am thinking the router might be the issue. It isn't even showing up under devices for sharing Windows media items. I still want to figure this out completely, but my virtual install of Vista is so laggy, no good music can come out of it in this virtual setup. I still want to know how to set it up on Vista for future reference though, so I am going to try all of this stuff out this weekend on my dedicated Vista box in my office area, just to know how to do it.

In any case, I found a better solution for my setup using Airport Express in combination with Airfoil. I can now output all my Mac OS X sound, or any particular program's sound to my HT system. I wish I figured this out before ordering the separate Sirius antenna/device. Basically, I can simply log onto the internet browser's Sirius player and play back the stations I listen to through the computer. The Airfoil program routes anything I play on the computer to Airport Express, which then streams it to the AVP. The same goes for iTunes or anything else on the computer. I'm not sure if it works for surround sound, but for two channel material it is IMO a very elegant, yet relatively cheap solution. So elegant that you can install it on all the systems in your house. I put an Airport Express on every system in my house (HT and Niles House system) and with Airfoil on each computer, and a repository of all my music on a networked hard drive, I can access the music from any computer in the house and play the music on any system of my choice using the Airfoil output menu...

BTW, Airfoil works on Windows as well as Mac OS X.
post #6706 of 25153
This seems like a good place to ask. Everyone here is tech savvy. My cell phone died over the weekend. I had to reactivate one from circa 2005. Boy, does it feel clunky. My contract with Sprint is up next month and I will be leaving them. The iPhone is nice, but I've heard mixed reviews on AT&T. Any suggestion?

Sorry for the way off topic post. If this offends anyone let me know and I will remove it.
post #6707 of 25153
waboman, depends on the carrier's capability in your area. In mine (NYC) AT&T is fine . The iPhone is in a class on his own. Either you hate it or you love it as I do despite not being perfect. Watch out to 'android'.
post #6708 of 25153
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Originally Posted by Waboman View Post

This seems like a good place to ask. Everyone here is tech savvy. My cell phone died over the weekend. I had to reactivate one from circa 2005. Boy, does it feel clunky. My contract with Sprint is up next month and I will be leaving them. The iPhone is nice, but I've heard mixed reviews on AT&T. Any suggestion?

Sorry for the way off topic post. If this offends anyone let me know and I will remove it.

Most of my friends have the Iphone, some love it and some have exchanged it. the ones that exchnged it did not like writing messages as they always keep entering the wrong keys. They also saying the ring tone is not as loud as the Nokia's.I guess your best to see one in action and get a feel for it.
post #6709 of 25153
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Originally Posted by nethomas View Post

Yes, orologio, mine dosen't offer HDMI as an option in the menu!

I think you need a hard reset. I had to do it after my first major update and it fixed the problems in my case.
post #6710 of 25153
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Originally Posted by orologio View Post

waboman, depends on the carrier's capability in your area. In mine (NYC) AT&T is fine . The iPhone is in a class on his own. Either you hate it or you love it as I do despite not being perfect. Watch out to 'android'.

Is Android the new gPhone from Google? I believe that will be on T-Mobile?

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Originally Posted by Franin View Post

Most of my friends have the Iphone, some love it and some have exchanged it. the ones that exchnged it did not like writing messages as they always keep entering the wrong keys. They also saying the ring tone is not as loud as the Nokia's.I guess your best to see one in action and get a feel for it.

I keep coming back to the iPhone. It's just too cool.

What do you guys think about the LG Dare for Verizon?
post #6711 of 25153
Thanks orologio, now I just have to figure out how to do a hard reset! Won't it mess up my Audyssey?
post #6712 of 25153
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Originally Posted by nethomas View Post

Thanks orologio, now I just have to figure out how to do a hard reset! Won't it mess up my Audyssey?

save the config file to your pc first. However, there is a chance that after the hard reset your aVP will refuse to download the configuration file, as it happened to me. So, in the worst case scenario you will re-do the auto set up as well... I am thinking to do the same, actually, to get a fresh start.
post #6713 of 25153
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Originally Posted by Waboman View Post

Is Android the new gPhone from Google? I believe that will be on T-Mobile?



I keep coming back to the iPhone. It's just too cool.

What do you guys think about the LG Dare for Verizon?

Yea, I wouldn't jump on the first gphone yet. also I am not a great fan of HTC and tmobil.
There is nothing like the iPhone yet, and yet it is not perfect, but if I would use a word to describe it I would say that it is a 'civilized' phone. most of the troubles are related to AT&T and not the phone itself.
It would be true for most PDAs maybe... the iphone can also be used to remotely browse your itunes on PC/Mac/Apple library to stream to your AVP (i think)
post #6714 of 25153
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Originally Posted by Waboman View Post

This seems like a good place to ask. Everyone here is tech savvy. My cell phone died over the weekend. I had to reactivate one from circa 2005. Boy, does it feel clunky. My contract with Sprint is up next month and I will be leaving them. The iPhone is nice, but I've heard mixed reviews on AT&T. Any suggestion?

Sorry for the way off topic post. If this offends anyone let me know and I will remove it.

I've had AT&T for years and been happy with the service. I pay ~ $100/mo for the two lines my son and I use. My daughter wanted an iPhone, so had to get her own plan. She pays $150/mo!! Maybe I'm getting too old, but that seems ridiculous for cell phone service.
post #6715 of 25153
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Originally Posted by orologio View Post

save the config file to your pc first. However, there is a chance that after the hard reset your aVP will refuse to download the configuration file, as it happened to me. So, in the worst case scenario you will re-do the auto set up as well... I am thinking to do the same, actually, to get a fresh start.

Really? How does it refuse it?
post #6716 of 25153
I am leaning towards AT&T and the iPhone. However, I've heard it can't do basic cell phone functions such as picture mail. I use my phone to take pics of my kids sports and school events and then send them to friends and family. Can the iPhone do this?

No DoubleProg, you're not getting old, $150/month does seem excessive.
post #6717 of 25153
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Originally Posted by progprog View Post

Really? How does it refuse it?

well, I was not able to upload the file. I don't know why. That was just my case and doesn't nrcessarly mean that it will happen to others.
post #6718 of 25153
Can someone tell me how to do a hard reset please! Also, can I just connect my computer to the unit and download from the AVP into my computer? Thanks everybody
post #6719 of 25153
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Originally Posted by nethomas View Post

Can someone tell me how to do a hard reset please! Also, can I just connect my computer to the unit and download from the AVP into my computer? Thanks everybody

Page 72 in the manual describes the reset process. Good question on the direct connection- I don't see how that would work with my equipment, but I'd be curious to hear whether anyone else has done this. Your AVP expects to find an existing network on the other end of that ethernet cable, so I guess you'd need to create one in your computer.
post #6720 of 25153
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Originally Posted by progprog View Post

Page 72 in the manual describes the reset process. Good question on the direct connection- I don't see how that would work with my equipment, but I'd be curious to hear whether anyone else has done this. Your AVP expects to find an existing network on the other end of that ethernet cable, so I guess you'd need to create one in your computer.

If you want to do a direct connection without actually being on a network you will have to find a gender changing ethernet cable. I have one and its pink (I guess no self respecting network engineer would ever pick up a pink patch cable so they think they are safe).

You will still have to define a fixed address in the AVP before you can use it. Perhaps a gateway too but not sure as I never tested this idea before. You will have to turn DHCP off before you can do that of course.
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