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post #151 of 302
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Originally Posted by General Klinger View Post

I am still waiting till they explain how Sam Adams got a beer named after himself :lol:

Umm... maybe because among other things he was a brewer. They did drink beer in Boston in those times after all.

'Samuel Adams' name has been appropriated for various commercial and non-profit ventures since his death. The most familiar usage stems from his roots as a brewer, and is applied as the brand name for "Samuel Adams: America's World Class Beer", a product of the Boston Beer Company.'

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_adams
post #152 of 302
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Originally Posted by SPACEMAKER View Post

I think my favorite scene so far was when they all just sat there in deafening silence after they voted for independence and weighed the magnitude of what they had just done. They had just birthed a nation. Just a huge moment in world history. I'm glad the filmaker put a great deal of emphasis on the extended silence. I know it really made me think about it in a manner that I have never thought about it before.

Tom Hooper was more involved in the mix, in regards to detail, authenticity and shape, than a lot of directors I've worked with...

I didn't mix episode 2, but the entire series has a very distinct sonic trademark.
post #153 of 302
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I didn't mix episode 2, but the entire series has a very distinct sonic trademark.

Yeah, I noticed that too. Couldn't put my finger on it, but it is very appealing.
post #154 of 302
Two things come to mind when discussing the audio in this terrific production.

This is the first time (that I’m aware of) the sound of the thunder is heard after the flash of lightning.

And second, while sitting in my comfortable living room, I find myself so immersed in the series, I feel like swatting flies that I know are there but I just don’t see.
post #155 of 302
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Originally Posted by LL3HD View Post

Two things come to mind when discussing the audio in this terrific production.

This is the first time (that I'm aware of) the sound of the thunder is heard after the flash of lightning.

And second, while sitting in my comfortable living room, I find myself so immersed in the series, I feel like swatting flies that I know are there but I just don't see.

I am very proud of this work... For the record, I mixed eps. 3,4,5 and part of 6.
post #156 of 302
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Originally Posted by FilmMixer View Post

I am very proud of this work...

Everyone who worked on this production should be proud. Best get ready for the acceptance speeches
post #157 of 302
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Originally Posted by FilmMixer View Post

I am very proud of this work... [on John Adams] For the record, I mixed eps. 3,4,5 and part of 6.

You and your fellow sound folks are to be commended. I watched episode 2, with its attendant rain, thunder, and lightning, and listened to the 5.1 soundtrack via my Yamaha RX-V2400 HT receiver, matrixed to 7.1. The audio was startlingly good. In fact, at one point I paused the playback of the show on my TiVo in order to confirm that the totality of the rainfall was an electronic recreation of 18th Century Philadelphia and was not being augmented by real life rain in 21st Century OKC.
post #158 of 302
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Originally Posted by FilmMixer View Post

I am very proud of this work... For the record, I mixed eps. 3,4,5 and part of 6.

We (most of us) haven't seen 4,5,6,7. You did the naval battle in Eps. 3? I will need to go back and rewatch it. I didn't get the big booms with that (maybe I wasn't supposed to) like I did with the battle of Bunker Hill.
post #159 of 302
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Originally Posted by gwsat View Post

Amen! That sort of thing is VERY tiresome - and even more so, out of line. Newbies should learn the lay of the land before launching into partisan political palaver here. That is the reason I quit posting to Usenet. Art and technology are fine here, politics is not!

I believe that any full discussion of historical events deserves and warrants a healthy dose of context and corollary with the present. This can be done without launching into extended political rants and arguments, which has already happened several times in this thread without alarming the mods.
post #160 of 302
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Originally Posted by allargon View Post

We (most of us) haven't seen 4,5,6,7. You did the naval battle in Eps. 3? I will need to go back and rewatch it. I didn't get the big booms with that (maybe I wasn't supposed to) like I did with the battle of Bunker Hill.

The ship battle was more led by music than effects...

And thanks to all for the kinds words on the tracks... it wasn't an easy project, but very rewarding...
post #161 of 302
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Originally Posted by gwsat View Post

You and your fellow sound folks are to be commended. I watched episode 2, with its attendant rain, thunder, and lightning, and listened to the 5.1 soundtrack via my Yamaha RX-V2400 HT receiver, matrixed to 7.1. The audio was startlingly good. In fact, at one point I paused the playback of the show on my TiVo in order to confirm that the totality of the rainfall was an electronic recreation of 18th Century Philadelphia and was not being augmented by real life rain in 21st Century OKC.

Hahaha me also! Fantasic work on the mixing.
post #162 of 302
Obviously, John was sick at the end of the 3rd episode. I don't think they explained what it was, does anyone know?
post #163 of 302
I think they go a bit into it with this weeks episode since it appears he is still recovering.
post #164 of 302
The constant buzzing fly makes me think some insect borne ailment like malaria.
post #165 of 302
Awesome film, even my wife (who is not a film and history geek like me) is enjoying it, that really says something for the production. As far Mr. Adams illness, the best I can discover is either malaria or typhus.
post #166 of 302
I have really enjoyed this show, I hesitated subscribing to HBO again but I'm glad I did.

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Originally Posted by foxeng View Post

Makes you wonder where the John Adam's and Ben Franklin's and Thomas Jefferson's of our time are. There is no one I can think of currently in politics who even come close to these gentlemen. Truth is, the men who forged this country had more skeletons in their closets that ANY politicians today and they did pretty good for us to be enjoying the fruits of their labors 230 years later. Of course they didn't have the type of celeb driven media we have today.

Does make you wonder if the Founding Fathers would be happy to see how we have developed as a nation or just shake their heads in disbelief?

They would probably be considered "faggy" now days (see idiocracy)

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Originally Posted by redjr View Post

I'm reminded of the phrase, "If we don't study, understand and learn from our past, we are doomed to repeat it."

I don't know who said it but I like the phrase "The only thing we learn from history is that we never learn anything from history."
post #167 of 302
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Originally Posted by kb7oeb View Post

I don't know who said it but I like the phrase "The only thing we learn from history is that we never learn anything from history."

Touche'!
post #168 of 302
An outstanding production. Who knew that they had HDTV cameras back then?

Comcast has an On Demand "Making of John Adams" that's worth watching.
post #169 of 302
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Originally Posted by fourthstooge View Post

I found the uncomfortable banquet table scene in France kind of amusing. It really illustrated how early the culturally uneasy alliance between France and America began and continues to this day

I was late in watching last weeks episode. I wanted to post the same thing about this scene. As much stuff that is happening in this series, this scene was incredible.

Where did he send his son? Back to France? I know they said where but I wasn't quite clear.
post #170 of 302
St. Petersburg, Russia.
post #171 of 302
I am really enjoying this.

I liked the Laura Linney's line they sought of slipped in on low radar. When Adams was going to France, the daugther asked Abigail how come the men get to do those things and we don't or something to that affect. Abigail responded, "because we let them".
post #172 of 302
Filmmixer, I'm halfway through the 4th episode. The insects, horses, etc. are crazy. This is low bit-rate Dolby Digital? Impressive!

Kudos to you and others involved with this project.
post #173 of 302
I'm not American, but anyone else get the chills when Washington was being sworn in?

Fantastic Episode! Can't wait for the next one. I do think they're going too fast. I can't keep track of the dates. How many years was Adams in France?
post #174 of 302
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Originally Posted by allargon View Post

Filmmixer, I'm halfway through the 4th episode. The insects, horses, etc. are crazy. This is low bit-rate Dolby Digital? Impressive!

Kudos to you and others involved with this project.

Thank you
post #175 of 302
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Originally Posted by eightninesuited View Post

I'm not American, but anyone else get the chills when Washington was being sworn in?

Yes very much so.. I keep saying to myself.. "So it begins"
post #176 of 302
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Originally Posted by eightninesuited View Post

I'm not American, but anyone else get the chills when Washington was being sworn in?

Yes! That last scene was fantastic. I felt like I morphed back in time. That persistent buzzing sound is the viewer as a fly on the wall.

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Originally Posted by eightninesuited View Post

...I do think they're going too fast. I can't keep track of the dates...

This is my only complaint. Since this is a mini series and not a one sitting tiresome full-length motion picture, I wish the production covered more ground with more of the story told.

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Originally Posted by eightninesuited View Post

Fantastic Episode!..

I especially enjoyed the cinematography in this last episode. The wide-angle lens shots with no distortions were breathtaking.
post #177 of 302
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Originally Posted by LL3HD View Post

This is my only complaint. Since this is a mini series and not a one sitting tiresome full-length motion picture, I wish the production covered more ground with more of the story told.

The fact that this is a "mini-series" and not a maxi series makes it impossible to cover any more ground. Consider that we are looking at 1770 all the way to John Adams death in 1826. It's hard to cover more than 50 years in the 7 episodes allotted.
post #178 of 302
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Originally Posted by bobby94928 View Post

The fact that this is a "mini-series" and not a maxi series makes it impossible to cover any more ground. Consider that we are looking at 1770 all the way to John Adams death in 1826. It's hard to cover more than 50 years in the 7 episodes allotted.

Well then I guess I wish it were a maxi-series.

Perhaps with good ratings, new subscriptions and brisk DVD sales-- this could pave the way for similar programming.
post #179 of 302
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Originally Posted by LL3HD View Post

Two things come to mind when discussing the audio in this terrific production.

This is the first time (that I’m aware of) the sound of the thunder is heard after the flash of lightning.

And second, while sitting in my comfortable living room, I find myself so immersed in the series, I feel like swatting flies that I know are there but I just don’t see.

Hmmm, sometimes I think the dialog is too low. Maybe its just my old ears. Love the series though
post #180 of 302
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Originally Posted by eightninesuited View Post

I'm not American, but anyone else get the chills when Washington was being sworn in?

Fantastic Episode! Can't wait for the next one. I do think they're going too fast. I can't keep track of the dates. How many years was Adams in France?

No chills, more like please it is too much. I actually thought the acting in some parts like you mentioned seemed hokey and overdone like it was too forced. Maybe it is my current view on things that is making me feel that way. I can't help but be cynical about individuals and what they were really like and not how history portrays them even when watching how this great country was founded.

Regardless, I am really enjoying this show and the intro and ending music and credits reminds me of Deadwood.
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