Originally Posted by downtown11
Kludge, thank you so much for taking the effort to push for these bug fixes. I've been pretty fortunate with my collection so far, but I finally have a dud title. Vicky Cristina Barcelona will not read on this player. I tested it with a couple of different Blu-ray players at my workplace, and it reads fine there. I'm running firmware 1.6.
Ok, I had to ditch the iPad and get on the 17" MBP for this post since it's going to take some explaining. Sad since I love the AVSFroum IOS app, way convenient and the iPad version is freaking awesome.
Anyhow, I was so excited when I read this post that there might be an unplayable disc that would force Sammy to release a new firmware so I stopped by my local BB BaM store to pick it up tonight. Rather than rent it for $4 (since I did not want to wait for my next disc from my queue to swap with and besides I totally forgot about this movie till now and wanted to watch it) and since they had previously viewed copies for only 10 clams I went ahead and purchased it. It's $11 or more before shipping online, so I thought that was a fair price for a BD there since they are usually way overpriced. I got a copy of The Fall on BD several weeks ago there as well for only $6 which was a way good deal. I can always resale it once I am done.
Well, I don't have any problems loading the disc or playing it, but this disc is very strangely encoded as far as it's soundtrack. It is LPCM, but I have no idea how the actual format is. My AVR reports LPCM 2/0/.1 which is very strange as in no center channel. It sees it as a 2-ch source and switched into DD PLII mode which is normal. If I play it in bitstream (audiophile) or PCM with any other sub settings I get no center channel or dialogue at all (despite the stereo source), just background noise and music. At first I thought this was a silent movie until I read a review where they said it was almost entirely dialogue and I was hearing none. I switched to bitstream (re-encode) and then it works but my receiver then reports DTS (which it should) but 5/2/.1 for the audio format. This is either a very bizarre reaction between my AVR and the Sammy or possibly the 5K is having an issue with the weird format. For some reason the center channel is not getting pulled out and sent to the AVR or it is just absent. I tried Led Zep. Song Remains since it has a 2-ch Dolby track. It seems to work fine, however that movie has hardly any dialogue in it anyhow. The music and other center channel stuff seems fine on the Zep disc.
I have several HDs that have 2-ch LPCM tracks and I have't had any issues with them, but I don't think I own any other BDs that have a LPCM 2-Channel track (that has to be very rare). I'm going to search the database to see if there are others.
In the meantime, those of you that own or have easy access to it and it will actually load for you. Give it a whirl and see what it does for you. I assume there is a "hidden" DD track on this disc, but it is not selectable.
At first I wondered why setting to PCM would not work and remembered that if you play a PCM disc with either the PCM setting or audiophile it outputs PCM anyhow. This leads me to believe it is a problem with my receiver and the 5K interacting (I have other minor issues here as well like the sound cutting out when chapter skipping on some DTS-HD MA discs). This is because the Sammy is able to deal with the weird PCM, read it and re-encode it to DTS. I have no idea what is happening on the analogs or SP/DIF interfaces since currently I'm only able to deal with my 5Ks with HDMI since my main player is buried in my equipment cabinet and my AVR is not too easy to get to. Besides I have no interest in trying it anyhow.
If any of you happen to know of other 2-ch LPCM BDs or ones that have odd soundtracks, please let me know. At the movies I have that are Stereo are DD and I have not had issues (that I am aware of) with those?
Downtown, can you elaborate about what you mean when it won't load. Does it choke on it and lock-up or spit it out or what? Or were you referring to audio issues?
Vinnie, if you are still out there, lurking, this is a disc I might want to send to you if you don't own it or have easy access to it to see what results you get. If this is in fact a Sammy problem I will want to report it to get it fixed. I don't think it is since the reviews I read mentioned other strange things, but no issues with the center being gone.