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post #6961 of 23474
4/29/08 at 9:20am
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Originally Posted by Kineahora View Post

Thanks for reminding me SEGA. No, my 40" is not nearly that bad, and somewhat more of a bluish tint than your post. I suppose it's not worth considering an exchange. I'm looking to move to HDMI for movies, and then be able to use HDMI black level control to further reduce this appearance. I'll post pics later. Do you have a good idea for a blank screen, or do you think credits are best because they show roughly that you are using reasonable settings?

BTW, I won't bother with anything more off-angle than 135ยบ since that's in my mind an unreasonable demand of an LCD.

I have my Yamaha receiver switching component, so for my setup, I can power-off my STB (connected via component from STB to receiver to TV) and it will give me a black screen on the TV. I assume because the receiver is still sending a signal to the TV, it doesn't give me the "No Signal" message. That's the black screen I used to test for clouding/flashlights/purple-hue, etc. Luckily, my 46" is in great shape.
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post #6962 of 23474
4/29/08 at 9:27am
My $0.002. They delivered my new 52" 650 last Saturday. This is after returning 2 injured 5271's. First off, love the red bezel. Probably because I have lots of red/burgandy accents in my living room, area rug, v. blinds. In a darkened room the bezel appears black, but just open those blinds and let the sun hit it, and oh man! is it red! Compared to the 2 5271's I had this tv has not a hint of stutter, only very, very slight TBE. No vapors, no purple. I am so frickin happy now with this set. It is definately a keeper.
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post #6963 of 23474
4/29/08 at 9:27am
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Originally Posted by nitt4ever View Post

I thought I read an earlier posting that made a comment about having difficulty with all the wiring, etc with the low profile mount. Did you have any problems with this? How do you have your wires run (including your power cord)? Do you have a surge protector? Any chance of posting some photos of your setup (wiring in particular)? Thanks.

I had no difficulty with the HDMI cabling. However, I haven't installed the surge protector yet. I plan on using a Leviton in-outlet type that should be flush with the wall behind the TV. With the spacers I mentioned, there was enough room for the perpendicular HDMI cables, so I'm sure there will be plenty of room for the AC plug as well. I don't know if I can post any pictures, since my wife left the charger to our camera at a hotel last month!
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post #6964 of 23474
4/29/08 at 9:31am
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Originally Posted by peking00 View Post

I have my Yamaha receiver switching component, so for my setup, I can power-off my STB (connected via component from STB to receiver to TV) and it will give me a black screen on the TV. I assume because the receiver is still sending a signal to the TV, it doesn't give me the "No Signal" message. That's the black screen I used to test for clouding/flashlights/purple-hue, etc. Luckily, my 46" is in great shape.

Hmm, nice trick. Too bad I have cable directly to TV, no receiver, and for movies, DVD directly to TV. I can try to find a fade-to-black moment in something and just pause it there I guess. But I think SEGA's point is well-taken for display purposes--something with a little image to show that you haven't turned the backlight to 10 with brightness 100 to exaggerate whatever screen problem you are trying to demonstrate...
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post #6965 of 23474
4/29/08 at 9:34am
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Originally Posted by mobgre View Post

My $0.002. They delivered my new 52" 650 last Saturday. This is after returning 2 injured 5271's. First off, love the red bezel. Probably because I have lots of red/burgandy accents in my living room, area rug, v. blinds. In a darkened room the bezel appears black, but just open those blinds and let the sun hit it, and oh man! is it red! Compared to the 2 5271's I had this tv has not a hint of stutter, only very, very slight TBE. No vapors, no purple. I am so frickin happy now with this set. It is definately a keeper.

Turn off DNR and that should take care of any perceived TBE and vapors.
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post #6966 of 23474
4/29/08 at 9:44am
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Originally Posted by dman99 View Post

I have noticed that during basketball games I see light shade of either yellow or purple on the basketball court? This is not a permanent flash of light because when I switch to other programs the picture is flawless.....

Does anybody know why this happens. I am think it is a reflection of lights of the arean the games are played at.

Also....what is the difference between 1003.g and 1003.m? Which one is better?

Last but not least.......once in a while during a TNT Sport broadcast......their is a big green block the covers half the screen for a second. Is this TNT's fault or is this a defect from TV.

During other programs.in certain scenes their is very small purple coloring that appears on clothing......but it is nothing permanent........it just appears every once in a while.

I don't mean to be negative........this TV is awesome...........I watched INTO the blue last night on TNT and it was awesome.

P.S. The purple I am referring to is small flash......nothing near the picture that Sega Team posted.


All of the things you are describing sound like source related problems and TNT is one of the worst HD stations for quality.

As far as firmware goes I started with 2003.5 and have gone to 1003.g, which I like alot because it has AMP at it's highest level, 1003.Ms AMP is just like the factory settings you have now. 1003.G caused some peoples TVs to have a stuck AMP, mine isn't stuck so I'm sticking with it.

Mosh
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post #6967 of 23474
4/29/08 at 9:46am
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Originally Posted by Kineahora View Post

Hmm, nice trick. Too bad I have cable directly to TV, no receiver, and for movies, DVD directly to TV. I can try to find a fade-to-black moment in something and just pause it there I guess. But I think SEGA's point is well-taken for display purposes--something with a little image to show that you haven't turned the backlight to 10 with brightness 100 to exaggerate whatever screen problem you are trying to demonstrate...


Also on D* if you tune in channel 220 or so you will get a blank screen. It's one of the inactive big ten stations.

Mosh~~
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post #6968 of 23474
4/29/08 at 9:54am
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Originally Posted by Ready2Mosh View Post

Also on D* if you tune in channel 220 or so you will get a blank screen. It's one of the inactive big ten stations.

Mosh~~

"D*"??? No clue. I assume you meant you started with FW 1001.5 in your last post BTW.
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post #6969 of 23474
4/29/08 at 10:07am
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Originally Posted by Kineahora View Post

"D*"??? No clue. I assume you meant you started with FW 1001.5 in your last post BTW.

DirecTV
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post #6970 of 23474
4/29/08 at 10:10am
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Originally Posted by Kineahora View Post

"D*"??? No clue. I assume you meant you started with FW 1001.5 in your last post BTW.

No, my 52" started at 200x.x, and I upgraded to 1003.G.

Mosh~~
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post #6971 of 23474
4/29/08 at 10:12am
Also, I don't really know why some are telling others that their concerns aren't valid, or they are just being nitpicky, or that "you shouldn't expect more from an LCD". For 52", these suckers are $3k+!! For most, that is a big sack o potatoes! I for one am glad people here are being critical. It helps me know what to look for when I can finally get my TV. And yes, I WILL be looking for flaws. Why shouldn't I when the thing will cost me a few weeks salary? Keep up the good work!
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post #6972 of 23474
4/29/08 at 10:20am
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Originally Posted by siddavis View Post

Also, I don't really know why some are telling others that their concerns aren't valid, or they are just being nitpicky, or that "you shouldn't expect more from an LCD". For 52", these suckers are $3k+!! For most, that is a big sack o potatoes! I for one am glad people here are being critical. It helps me know what to look for when I can finally get my TV. And yes, I WILL be looking for flaws. Why shouldn't I when the thing will cost me a few weeks salary? Keep up the good work!

You should look for flaws but understand that there are certain flaws inherent in LCD technology that have yet to be solved.
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post #6973 of 23474
4/29/08 at 10:26am
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Originally Posted by Ready2Mosh View Post

No, my 52" started at 200x.x, and I upgraded to 1003.G.

Mosh~~

Weird, I didn't even know the A650 series had 200x.x versions. The xx71 yes.
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post #6974 of 23474
4/29/08 at 10:35am
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Originally Posted by jazzbass View Post

You should look for flaws but understand that there are certain flaws inherent in LCD technology that have yet to be solved.

Exactly. There are flaws inherent to a particular unit (these TVs should be exchanged), flaws inherent to a model or design--the manufacturer should be criticized for this, and there are "flaws", or better termed "weaknesses" in my view, to a whole technology such as LCD or plasma that should be recognized and lamented, but not obsessed over in a thread like this since this is devoted to this model, not the whole technology. IMHO.

Chill Sid, we know these aren't cheap, and believe me, people here are plenty critical.
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post #6975 of 23474
4/29/08 at 10:43am
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Originally Posted by Kineahora View Post

Weird, I didn't even know the 50 series had 200x.x versions. The xx71 yes.

Yeah, if you look way back in the beginning of this thread we were using the firmware number to determine which sets were more likely to have the reset issue until it was found even the 200x.x sets had the power off/on issue.

Mosh~~

My first set (46") had the 100x.x firmware.
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post #6976 of 23474
4/29/08 at 10:48am
I have 1002.3 firmware and have not had any resets. I would like my amp to be a little bit stronger but I do not want to mess with the service menu because I'm afraid that I would do something wrong and void my warranty (not as tech savvy as all of you). I believe I remember reading that 1003.G had stronger amp but I think I've read that 1003.M has the same amp settings as 1002.3. Am I correct? I would like to update my firmware to get higher amp but if that is not possible I do not want to update just for the sake of updating since mine hasn't reset yet.
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post #6977 of 23474
4/29/08 at 10:51am
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Originally Posted by CHRISGEOFROMGREE View Post

Is it me or this tv suffers from smearing?Its clear on the 3rd pic


it is actually due to the game..it happened to melast nite when playing GTA IV on my older sammy 3296..so dont worry
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post #6978 of 23474
4/29/08 at 10:58am
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Originally Posted by badbeat33 View Post

I have 1002.3 firmware and have not had any resets. I would like my amp to be a little bit stronger but I do not want to mess with the service menu because I'm afraid that I would do something wrong and void my warranty (not as tech savvy as all of you). I believe I remember reading that 1003.G had stronger amp but I think I've read that 1003.M has the same amp settings as 1002.3. Am I correct? I would like to update my firmware to get higher amp but if that is not possible I do not want to update just for the sake of updating since mine hasn't reset yet.

1003.g is super amp firmware, which is wht I am running right now. It may introduce more artifacts at the higher level, but I haven't had any issues with it. One other thing with 1003.g is it may make your AMP stuck but you can get it unstuck by upgrading to 1003.M.

I will try and post the url for 1003.g.

http://downloadcenter.samsung.com/co..._T-AMBAUSC.exe

There, see if it is still active, the above link is for 1003.g firmware. USE AT YOUR OWN RISK, I TAKE NO RESPONSABILITY WITH WHAT YOU DO WITH IT.

Mosh~~

Edit; I just checked and the download is still active, so get it if you want it. Also if you have upgraded to 1003.M you can't go back to 1003.G
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post #6979 of 23474
4/29/08 at 11:00am
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Originally Posted by STILESP113 View Post

it is actually due to the game..it happened to melast nite when playing GTA IV on my older sammy 3296..so dont worry

Ok then
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post #6980 of 23474
4/29/08 at 11:07am
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Originally Posted by siddavis View Post

Also, I don't really know why some are telling others that their concerns aren't valid, or they are just being nitpicky, or that "you shouldn't expect more from an LCD". For 52", these suckers are $3k+!! For most, that is a big sack o potatoes! I for one am glad people here are being critical. It helps me know what to look for when I can finally get my TV. And yes, I WILL be looking for flaws. Why shouldn't I when the thing will cost me a few weeks salary? Keep up the good work!

agreed. When these things cost that many potatoes they should prove themselves worth it.

I'm a poor college kid and splurged on a 40A650; it now appears to have the "purple haze" and a little flashlighting in the top right corner, I think its worth an exchange.
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post #6981 of 23474
4/29/08 at 11:13am
Flashlighting and clouding can diminish over time so give your set a chance. If you are coming close to your 30 days then exchange it, but be aware the exchanged set may have worse clouding or flashlighting and dead pixels and so on, so it's really a roll of the dice if you'll get a better set.

Mosh~~
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post #6982 of 23474
4/29/08 at 11:19am
Hello,
Just did the firmware upgrade and im trying to find the factory reset in the service menu, i havent touched anything yet but i see no option for factory reset. Is it under a sub menu of something
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post #6983 of 23474
4/29/08 at 11:19am
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Originally Posted by STILESP113 View Post

it is actually due to the game..it happened to melast nite when playing GTA IV on my older sammy 3296..so dont worry

Anyone else play the PS3 version of GTA IV on the 650 series? Is it me or does it have an incredible amount of blurring; almost detracting from the gaming experience.

From what I understand (beyond3d forums) it appears that this effect was built into the PS3 version of the game. It's just that the blurring seems exacerbated on my LN40A640. Has anyone else experienced this?
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post #6984 of 23474
4/29/08 at 11:22am
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Originally Posted by znutz View Post

Anyone else play the PS3 version of GTA IV on the 650 series? Is it me or does it have an incredible amount of blurring; almost detracting from the gaming experience.

From what I understand (beyond3d forums) it appears that this effect was built into the PS3 version of the game. It's just that the blurring seems exacerbated on my LN40A640. Has anyone else experienced this?

A lot of games use blurring to make the game seem faster than it is. Racing games are the worst for it. Try turning AMP off if it gets too distracting and see if it's any better. HTH

Mosh~~
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post #6985 of 23474
4/29/08 at 11:34am
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Originally Posted by foxnews View Post

This Adjustable Tilting Wall Mount Bracket : has 4" gap between wall and TV. big gap does not look nice but good for wiring.


Also Silver vs Black? which one matches better with 650?

I mounted my 46a650 with this exact mount a week ago and so far so good. I'd say go with the black but seriously, the point of a mount is to not see it. I'd say go with black for the rare case someone is at a 180 degree angle. Here are some shots of my set up....

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/8488/dsc00151he5.jpg
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/9416/dsc00150my1.jpg
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/5030/dsc00148pj5.jpg
http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/143/dsc00155sr9.jpg
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post #6986 of 23474
4/29/08 at 11:45am
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Originally Posted by siddavis View Post

Also, I don't really know why some are telling others that their concerns aren't valid, or they are just being nitpicky, or that "you shouldn't expect more from an LCD". For 52", these suckers are $3k+!! For most, that is a big sack o potatoes! I for one am glad people here are being critical. It helps me know what to look for when I can finally get my TV. And yes, I WILL be looking for flaws. Why shouldn't I when the thing will cost me a few weeks salary? Keep up the good work!

It's not be crtical is the problem, it is sometimes realistic expectations that is the problem. If you been here during the reset issue, this forum was the only one addressing it. Now we are getting more of extreme off angle issues, and pq issues if you adjust the LCD wrong. See Jazz's post about that. It's the post that says "I have a bad pq if I watch this LCD in this weird way, but no one watches tv this way" that irks me. Being crtical of flaws is fine, but going out of the way to find them seems foolish to me. And some of the critics don't even own this LCD.
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post #6987 of 23474
4/29/08 at 11:46am
Good afternoon everyone.

I apologize if this has been answered somewhere already. This is my first post. I just got the LN46A650 and as soon as I connected my Cablevision cable box using COMPONENT CABLES, i get a vibrations in the sound when watching the television and also slight purple lines on the screen. However if I connect my old dvd player using the inputs on the left side of the tv everything is perfect. No audio problems and no puple lines. I called Samsung and they said that it might be either the cables or the cable box. Any suggestions?
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post #6988 of 23474
4/29/08 at 11:50am
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Originally Posted by znutz View Post

...I'm a poor college kid and splurged on a 40A650; it now appears to have the "purple haze" and a little flashlighting in the top right corner, I think its worth an exchange.

Sheesh! When I was in college I didn't own a TV, and now college costs like 3 times what my folks paid (which was expensive even for then). I'm shocked you can afford something like this. We used to watch the college's TV in the TV room.
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post #6989 of 23474
4/29/08 at 12:00pm
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Originally Posted by nova21 View Post

It's not be crtical is the problem, it is sometimes realistic expectations that is the problem. If you been here during the reset issue, this forum was the only one addressing it. Now we are getting more of extreme off angle issues, and pq issues if you adjust the LCD wrong. See Jazz's post about that. It's the post that says "I have a bad pq if I watch this LCD in this weird way, but no one watches tv this way" that irks me. Being crtical of flaws is fine, but going out of the way to find them seems foolish to me. And some of the critics don't even own this LCD.

jazz was just trying to be funny, it wasn't a serious post. This is why I wish people would refrain from posting such crap.
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post #6990 of 23474
4/29/08 at 12:23pm
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Originally Posted by Cynn View Post

I just want to chime in as well that if you buy from Big River and you call CEVA when it's in the warehouse, you can get it MUCH quicker. I called yesterday and mine was supposed to be delivered on the 9th, but instead, they are going to do it today.

Can't beat that.

I'm having the set delivered today, about 10-15 minutes from warehouse they said between 11 and 3pm, they called before and said they would be here between 3 and 7pm
Just so i know are they suppose to bring set in unbox it and allow me to hook set up and test it tomake sure it works?
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