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post #7261 of 23474
I wonder what it'll take to make this thread stickied...

We should have enough posts, right?
post #7262 of 23474
Well, it's an award-winning television, it should be stickied because of its popularity.
post #7263 of 23474
What is the problem if the InfoLink says "Fail to connect with service"? Network test says all is well though.
Has anyone had a problem with setting the SRS TruSurround XT on and when you turn TV off and then on again it is set to off again?
post #7264 of 23474
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Originally Posted by wtfer View Post

Just for the hell of it, can everone post their main settings when they see purple haze?
Mainly the backlight at & what picture mode (dynamic/movie) was on.

I played around with it last night:
The settings I've typically been using are backlight 3, brightness in the mid 40s, dynamic OFF, HDMI black level greyed out, power-saving off (though I'm now tinkering with LOW, see below).

The issue for me is not that the haze is purple, it's that it's THERE--in my case it's more blue. It is not gone on-axis (and this is annoying me), and it is quite noticeable even 10º off-axis.

The reason I say it's haze is that I notice it on black bars or blank screens, as opposed to poor black levels in a picture image (though those cannot get darker than the haze of course).

Things that lower my haze on a black screen:

Major:
1) Turning down the backlight.
2) Turning on energy saving (gets better as you go higher)
3) Turning on Dynamic Contrast (BIG drop in haze at "LOW", slightly better at higher settings but unfortunately over-contrasty on pics with detail loss).
4) Movie mode seems to be better than standard or dynamic mode
Minor:
4) Decreasing gamma: very slight effect, even at -3.
5) Decreasing color offsets in the white balance menu--slight effect.

Things that do NOT decrease haze:
1) Turning down Brightness
2) Turning on or up black level adjust.

Because of these observations, I've been tinkering with as low a backlight as possible and last night I decided to turn energy save mode to LOW, and compensate for crushing by turning brightness up a bit. Like I said above, dynamic contrast to LOW made a big difference, but I lost shadow details...
post #7265 of 23474
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Originally Posted by studdad View Post

I have never liked the settings given by Cnet. They are always dark and very bland IMO.

Based on my tinkering last night,
AGREED.

I found the c|net settings very sepia in tone, mainly due to Warm2, but also because of their white balance adjustments. I also wanted a tad more color (and I usually turn down color gain on my TVs).

After I changed to the c|net settings, I started tweaking it to my taste, and guess what? I ended up very nearly right back at znutz' settings with warm1, and a bit lower blue offset.

That's when I started working on trying to reduce haze and the best I came up with was to go with Energy Save LOW and up the brightness and contrast a bit.

Now I must get an HDMI cable to rule out that my relative haze is just due to better black levels on HDMI. If there is no improvement then I can ask for a Big River exchange, which I really don't want to deal with. I wish I could see IN PERSON someone's A650 who reports no haze, so I can tell if the difference in posted images is real or due to camera differences.
post #7266 of 23474
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Originally Posted by Ready2Mosh View Post

Thank You. The coupon states we have to prove we are an employee of an electronics dealer in order to claim our reward.

Mosh~~

Yea I saw that however there are alot of elegible dealers you can work for, you may know a friend that works for one to get it in his name, or you can just try it and see what happens, its $400 off the 52650, you never know!
post #7267 of 23474
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Originally Posted by thesmyster View Post

Yea I saw that however there are alot of elegible dealers you can work for, you may know a friend that works for one to get it in his name, or you can just try it and see what happens, its $400 off the 52650, you never know!

Pointless, though. You have to buy it from your employer, and we all know that buying something from somewhere other than that rain forest big river place is not going to be cheap....
post #7268 of 23474
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Originally Posted by infoquest View Post

What is the problem if the InfoLink says "Fail to connect with service"? Network test says all is well though.
Has anyone had a problem with setting the SRS TruSurround XT on and when you turn TV off and then on again it is set to off again?

Try rebooting your router and modem, I had the same error message and rebooting my router and modem solved the problem. Make sure you power up the modem a few minutes before powering up the router (if you have one). If that doesn't work, try a new cable.

I don't use the speakers on the tv so I don't have an answer for your other question.
post #7269 of 23474
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Originally Posted by Kineahora View Post

Based on my tinkering last night,
AGREED.

I found the c|net settings very sepia in tone, mainly due to Warm2, but also because of their white balance adjustments. I also wanted a tad more color (and I usually turn down color gain on my TVs).

After I changed to the c|net settings, I started tweaking it to my taste, and guess what? I ended up very nearly right back at znutz' settings with warm1, and a bit lower blue offset.

That's when I started working on trying to reduce haze and the best I came up with was to go with Energy Save LOW and up the brightness and contrast a bit.

Now I must get an HDMI cable to rule out that my relative haze is just due to better black levels on HDMI. If there is no improvement then I can ask for a Big River exchange, which I really don't want to deal with. I wish I could see IN PERSON someone's A650 who reports no haze, so I can tell if the difference in posted images is real or due to camera differences.

I think you will see an improvement with an HDMI. I set the HDMI black level to Low I believe. I can't recall the setting on this actually but I believe you have 2 choices, low and normal. I set it to low and it makes the letter-box bars completely black and I think makes the overall picture pop more.
post #7270 of 23474
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Originally Posted by WilliamG View Post

...and we all know that buying something from somewhere other than that rain forest big river place is not going to be cheap....

Stupid question, but where is or what is the website for this Big River place I keep reading about?

Mihalis
post #7271 of 23474
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Originally Posted by WilliamG View Post

Pointless, though. You have to buy it from your employer, and we all know that buying something from somewhere other than that rain forest big river place is not going to be cheap....

true. well i just applied to bbuy and ccity just to be elegible then i will quit.
I was at bestbuy yesterday and they had their regular programing running on the 650. I asked them to hookup blue-ray to it, and they did, I set the automotion to high and I kid you not, 10-12 people gathered by the tv watching in awe. One of them brought over a bbuy representative and bought the 52" on the spot. I was proud of myself.

it just pisses me off when I walk into these electronic stores and they have the crappiest sources hooked up to these high-end tv's, loses them potential buyers.
post #7272 of 23474
I just purchased the 40" 650 model on Amazon! The current price is too good to pass up. I was torn between the LN40a650 and the 50 inch 550 plasma. Ultimately, I'm moving in to a studio apartment and the 50 inch was just too big. I'll post my thoughts as soon as it arrives (ETA May 12th).
post #7273 of 23474
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Originally Posted by thesmyster View Post

true. well i just applied to bbuy and ccity just to be elegible then i will quit.
I was at bestbuy yesterday and they had their regular programing running on the 650. I asked them to hookup blue-ray to it, and they did, I set the automotion to high and I kid you not, 10-12 people gathered by the tv watching in awe. One of them brought over a bbuy representative and bought the 52" on the spot. I was proud of myself.

it just pisses me off when I walk into these electronic stores and they have the crappiest sources hooked up to these high-end tv's, loses them potential buyers.

I can't agree with you more. I couldn't even get the Rep at BB to talk with me! I walked out and got mine on Amazon. If they don't want my business, that's fine by me.
post #7274 of 23474
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Originally Posted by JFRocker View Post

I just purchased the 40" 650 model on Amazon! The current price is too good to pass up. I was torn between the LN40a650 and the 50 inch 550 plasma. Ultimately, I'm moving in to a studio apartment and the 50 inch was just too big. I'll post my thoughts as soon as it arrives (ETA May 12th).

Yah, I like the 46" pricing on there, too. However, I'm holding off to see what the competition can provide before seeing how well this shapes up.
post #7275 of 23474
Thanks n1ghtpr0w1er that worked.
post #7276 of 23474
Mihalis,

Big River = Amazon
post #7277 of 23474
Does the 1003 firmware fix the difference in AMP off jittery picture AMP on strange look? Or if I have no other problems is it best to leave my firmware alone?
post #7278 of 23474
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Originally Posted by 8IronBob View Post

Yah, I like the 46" pricing on there, too. However, I'm holding off to see what the competition can provide before seeing how well this shapes up.

I just couldn't hold my water on this!
After checking out LCD's for a couple of years, I finally found one for sports where, for instance, NBA players charging the lane don't look like a transporter beam was starting to lock in on them When viewed side by side with XBR4/5 & Sammy 71F and A550, only the 46A650 had it nailed. no "jaggies" on diagonal lines and no "creep" on panned backgrounds, like the floorboards. Mine's coming down the river, for under 2K!
post #7279 of 23474
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Originally Posted by jazzbass View Post

I think you will see an improvement with an HDMI. I set the HDMI black level to Low I believe. I can't recall the setting on this actually but I believe you have 2 choices, low and normal. I set it to low and it makes the letter-box bars completely black and I think makes the overall picture pop more.

Thanx Jazzer, you're the 2nd or 3rd person to say that, so I am crossing my fingers. I was gonna get a nice HDMI at Blue Jean, but now it seems I need one right away for test purposes before my time is up. I think I'll pick up the cheapest one I can get at a B&M, then test my set. If it substantially reduces my perceived haze, then I'll get a nice one at Blue Jean, and I will be able to report on cable differences
post #7280 of 23474
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Originally Posted by supervelous View Post

Mihalis,

Big River = Amazon

Thanks
post #7281 of 23474
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Originally Posted by jeff_free69 View Post

I just couldn't hold my water on this!
After checking out LCD's for a couple of years, I finally found one for sports where, for instance, NBA players charging the lane don't look like a transporter beam was starting to lock in on them When viewed side by side with XBR4/5 & Sammy 71F and A550, only the 46A650 had it nailed. no "jaggies" on diagonal lines and no "creep" on panned backgrounds, like the floorboards. Mine's coming down the river, for under 2K!

It's pretty awesome, isn't it
post #7282 of 23474
Last night I was watching the basketball game on TNTHD and man, does this TV show things you would never see with regular TV.

Example; The scoreboard ads and lights reflecting off of the hardwood, wow, never noticed that before. The sweat rolling down players faces, the details in the fans even when they aren't the ones the camera is focusing on, just WOW.

Mosh~~
post #7283 of 23474
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Originally Posted by Kineahora View Post

Thanx Jazzer, you're the 2nd or 3rd person to say that, so I am crossing my fingers. I was gonna get a nice HDMI at Blue Jean, but now it seems I need one right away for test purposes before my time is up. I think I'll pick up the cheapest one I can get at a B&M, then test my set. If it substantially reduces my perceived haze, then I'll get a nice one at Blue Jean, and I will be able to report on cable differences

I picked up a cheap belkin HDMI from Target when I got my set and then returned it when my better cable for less money came in. I definitely think you should give this a try ASAP and let us know what you find.
post #7284 of 23474
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Originally Posted by jeff_free69 View Post

I just couldn't hold my water on this!
After checking out LCD's for a couple of years, I finally found one for sports where, for instance, NBA players charging the lane don't look like a transporter beam was starting to lock in on them When viewed side by side with XBR4/5 & Sammy 71F and A550, only the 46A650 had it nailed. no "jaggies" on diagonal lines and no "creep" on panned backgrounds, like the floorboards.

Ya know, I never bought this set for AMP (I wanted the nice CR and sleek look), and never thought I'd use it, but I had it on low for some DVDs initially. When I reset everything while I was testing, I turned it off, and the judder during camera pans--even though it looked more cinematic-- started to distract me! So I admit I've become a fan of low AMP.
post #7285 of 23474
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Originally Posted by utsava View Post

Well, after spending way longer than I would ever want to configure my Harmony remote for my new 52" 650, I've finally gotten the stupid discrete input codes working the way I want them to. To save others the agony of deciphering the Harmony discrete code names to determine what they ACTUALLY do (not what they SAY they do), I'll share my limited results here. I didn't figure out 100% all of the input sources, only the ones I needed. For those I'm not 100% sure of, I've put a question mark after it. If anyone wants to further this effort, you can further verify these questionable ones.

TV Source -> Discrete Harmony Remote Code
TV -> InputAntenna
HDMI1 -> InputHDMI2V2
HDMI2/DVI -> InputHDMI2
AV1 -> InputVideo?
AV2 -> InputVideo3?
S-Video -> InputSVideo?
Component1 ->InputComponent2
Component2 -> InputComponent1
PC -> InputPC (strangely toggles PC and HDMI1)
HDMI3 -> InputSVideo3
HDMI4 -> ?
USB -> InputDvi2

Hope this helps people save some time.

Were you able to make it switch to difference picture modes with the Harmony? I run everything through my receiver and let it do the switching, but I want to have different settings for TV, Xbox, DVD's etc.
post #7286 of 23474
Speaking of remotes, has anyone successfully programmed their Timewarner/Comcast universal remotes (for use with motorola dct6416 iii)?

I've got an Atlas DVR1055 remote and I can't get the arrow keys/OK button to work... power works, video source menu's appear fine, though; I just can't navigate or select anything. Reading the wiki on this remote didn't help, unfortunately.
post #7287 of 23474
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Originally Posted by Ready2Mosh View Post

Last night I was watching the basketball game on TNTHD and man, does this TV show things you would never see with regular TV.

Example; The scoreboard ads and lights reflecting off of the hardwood, wow, never noticed that before. The sweat rolling down players faces, the details in the fans even when they aren't the ones the camera is focusing on, just WOW.

Mosh~~

I totally concur. I was watching the game last night and kept commenting, "wow, that player has baggy cheek bones", or "I didn't know she had scars on her chest". Stuff that just would have blended in with a non-HD source and you never realize you're not seeing until you see it.

Watching SD sources at my friends houses is going to be difficult now.
post #7288 of 23474
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Originally Posted by jazzbass View Post

I picked up a cheap belkin HDMI from Target when I got my set and then returned it when my better cable for less money came in. I definitely think you should give this a try ASAP and let us know what you find.

Well here's part of my problem: My DVD player was very fancy for a few years ago, but apparently it only will put out component and VGA. Being a total noob to HDMI, I didn't realize this (VGA) is analog video, so I can't even hook up to HDMI with this DVD player. Ouch. I learned all of this on Blue Jean's very helpful site.

Bottom line; I knew I needed a new player for Hi-def formats, but I had no idea I may not even be outputting 480p optimally. So to even test the effect of HDMI connection on my black screen issues, I need to get hold of a device that puts out a darn digital signal, and right away. And I always buy things after careful consideration yada yada. Dang.

Alright, terrible thread for this question, but what do you guys think is the best blu-ray source out there that can also put out digital audio via coax? Preferably it should also be able to read redbook CDs and computer-burned CDs. Help!
post #7289 of 23474
Kineahora It does not have coax but I keep getting the response PS3. The other thing I keep getting is wait for the next generation? I ordered a PS3 and now am waiting on it. I am also waiting for the next Generation. I might be listening to the wrong people but they all are saying the same thing. Just my 2 cents. I also do not have a next Generation surround yet either so it will not make me a huge difference until that point if I did my choices would be different. The new surround processors have different processing. Picture is very good on all BD I have seen. Hope that helps.
post #7290 of 23474
Ok, I don't get it; why do you people refer to Amazon as Big River? why not just call it "AMAZON"?
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