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post #2221 of 2230
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Originally Posted by PeterTHX View Post

It's most certainly a DTS problem. It's their decoding application.

The DSP only carries out the instructions. DTS wrote those instructions.

Are you sure? Funny that not ALL avr's were affected. And Onkyo fixed their problem with a software patch.
post #2222 of 2230
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Originally Posted by jimwhite View Post

Are you sure? Funny that not ALL avr's were affected. And Onkyo fixed their problem with a software patch.

Yes I'm sure, Onkyo and Yamaha were the first out of the gate, and the first affected. DTS rewrote their TI DSP codec and Onkyo issued it as a DSP firmware update.

DTS also promised to look into their encoding method to minimize the spikes but it appears that certain titles still have the problem. Hence the joke among the HT community that "DTS" stands for Destroy The Speakers.
post #2223 of 2230
Looks to me like DTS could care less about this. They have yet to even respond once with even an "it's not us-it's somebody else" to 5 emails I've sent in the last 2 weeks. If you have ever experienced this first hand, you would be leery of even playing a movie with a DTS MA soundtrack again for fear this might occur.
post #2224 of 2230
I've recently experienced these loud pops through my Denon 3808 AVR with the movies Tangled and Burlesque. Never heard them before with numerous DTS-MA audio tracks running through my setup.

Pops aren't repeatable. I could play the films all the way through and not hear a thing, but heard them on a subsequent play. Strange.

At least there's some comfort that this thread has been revived. Good to know I'm not alone.
post #2225 of 2230
The original, decoder firmware flaw leading to the original "bomb" had the characteristic that the explosions were repeatable at the same time code when decoded on the same hardware (although the decoder in different hardware might not have the problem on that disc, even though it had the problem on some other disc).

If your explosions are not-repeatable, then that suggests a different flaw.
--Bob
post #2226 of 2230
Thanks for the clarification, Bob.
post #2227 of 2230
I bought a br player a while ago and took it back. This thread makes me leery about even thinking about buying another br player or getting a new receiver. I'm sure Dolby is enjoying this. I used to love it when DVDs had DTS soundtracks. Oh yeah, has anyone experienced the "bomb" or "pop" on a Dolby True HD soundtrack?
post #2228 of 2230
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Originally Posted by pcdoctor View Post
I bought a br player a while ago and took it back. This thread makes me leery about even thinking about buying another br player or getting a new receiver. I'm sure Dolby is enjoying this. I used to love it when DVDs had DTS soundtracks. Oh yeah, has anyone experienced the "bomb" or "pop" on a Dolby True HD soundtrack?
Why? A large majority of BD content is using DTS-HD-MA, and up to now this was forgotten concern as it was a issue with earlier audio decoders against Yamaha, Integra, and Onkyo AVR's , since fixed with new FW and new hardware. Just because you see a couple of people discussing this problem doesn't make it the norm.

This doesn't occur on Dolby True HD tracks BTW.
post #2229 of 2230
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Originally Posted by pcdoctor View Post

I bought a br player a while ago and took it back. This thread makes me leery about even thinking about buying another br player or getting a new receiver. I'm sure Dolby is enjoying this. I used to love it when DVDs had DTS soundtracks. Oh yeah, has anyone experienced the "bomb" or "pop" on a Dolby True HD soundtrack?

Actually it's the opposite: a few BD players needed firmware updates to because they would have Dolby TrueHD dropouts: the sound would cut out completely for a brief second here and there on some titles.
post #2230 of 2230
Hi Guys,

I have an Onkyo ts xr707 and a Panasonic BD60

Is there a certain firmware version that this issue is effecting? Or is it across the board across all firmware versions?

I have a couple of the Blu-rays on the first post (Master & commander and Room 1408) that I have not watched yet, thank goodness!

I will check my firmware version when I get home (Support guy said you hold "display" and press "Standy" to show firmware version)
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