Originally Posted by casey.christian
If you are a big fan of audio, as I'm guessing you are, I understand why this is important to you. If you have a decent system I think you can, without a doubt, tell the difference between lossless or uncompressed PCM audio and the older, lossy codecs. The "HD" audio sounds warmer, fuller, and presents a more stable, enveloping sound field. I think it's one of the most exciting parts of both the HD DVD and Blu-ray formats. Sure, the 1080p video is great, but people always seem to forget the sound. It's for all these reasons that both the BH200 and many other Blu-ray players were unacceptable to me. I WANTED THE AUDIO, DAMMIT!
Is your receiver capable of decoding the new HD codecs? If so, you should be able to bitstream the DTS HD/MA to the receiver and see if it is actually putting the sound out. But, of course, if you're asking this question than I'm assuming that your receiver doesn't. Mine does and I should have my BH200 is a couple of days. If your question hasn't been answered by then, I'll be happy to play around with stuff and see what I can find out for you.
On a side, theoretically speaking, any machine that can decode DTS HD should
be able to also decode DTS HD Master Audio. The way the decoding works is essentially the same, it's just the Master Audio is less compressed and at a higher bit rate, therefore is lossless. So, if the BH200 is decoding DTS HD at all, it SHOULD
be perfectly capable of doing the Master Audio as well. I don't think you'd really get one without the other.
Thanks for the response Casey.....I hope that you are correct about your last paragraph. I just picked up the BH 200 yesterday and I put it through some tests.
MY SET UP :
BH 200 ----HDMI out to------> Integra (hdmi 1.1 AVR) ------from Integra--------> PIoner Kuro 1080p 72hz.
Speakers: I have Energy Reference series RC 50's & Velodyne sub- SPLR 1000.
In reference to telling the difference between lossy & lossless, the answer is yes, I believe I can..... and in my sytem, that difference becomes very apparent at times. Having said that, the reasons for my DTS MA vs DTS HR question, is that, once all you have listened to for the last year has been DD THD & PCM uncompressed, it would seem that it would be hard to distinguish between a DTS HR & DTS MA, especially since I have never heard either one of them.
Ok, so you know I CAN"T BITSTREAM, but I can send all the lossless codecs to the Integra as Multichannel PCM.
I tested The following disks:
"I Robot" BD- the sound was incredible! I hit the button and the BH 200 showed the screen with an audio setting of DTS HD 5.1
POP UP Menus - Worked flawlessly.
"300" HD DVD- the sound was incredible again! (NO different from my A2) I hit the button and the BH 200 showed the screen with an audio setting of - DD THD 5.1
POP UP Menus - Worked flawlessly again.
I was wondering if my setting on the audio menu is supposed to be as follows:
HDMI = PCM Multi-ch
SPDIF = PCM Stereo (automatically defaults to this if HDMI = Multi- Ch)
Sampling Freq = 96 Khz
DRC = OFF
For the sampling frequency, MY AVR says it can handle 5.1 ch, 32-96 Khz 16/20/24 bit. but it also says it can handle 2ch linear PCM 32-192khz 16/20/24 bit. Should I have selected the 192 khz or leave it at 96 Khz
Finally the 1080P/24 issue.... I was able to go into the menu on the BH 200 and select the 1080p mode to "on". The problem is, that the Pioneer's Cinema modes are grayed out and they only do this, if the TV is receiving a 1080p/60. I switched over to my Samsung BDP 1200 which does the 1080p/24 and the modes on the pioneer were ok.This leads me to the question... since I got this BH 200 new, should I have loaded a previous/January FW first and than the latest March FW? Could this be the cause of my not getting the 1080P 24? Anyone ????