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post #2701 of 2819
Watched The Town last night. Played perfectly.
post #2702 of 2819
This is the strangest issue - I'm certain that I've been able to play the Toy Story blu-ray in the past, but it has completely stopped working on all 3 of my players. I've tried all the past fixes, such as setting the language to English, updated firmware, with / without internet connection, clearing cache, and so on. I even got another copy from the library and that one also fails to play. On top of that, Toy Story 2, released the same day, has no issue. TS1 starts with chapter 4 (or is it 3?), where it would then ask for the language, but nothing pops up on the screen and it freezes. I can then stop the disc, and then hit menu and it goes directly to the menu screen and I can watch Toy Story 1, but just strange that it absolutely stops upon inserting it.

Any chance that somebody could check on their player and confirm that this is just my issue... ? Thanks!
post #2703 of 2819
After a long time using the BH-200 as my primary player, I've upgraded to an Oppo BDP-93. Given a paucity of HDMI ports on my receiver, I am now sending the video signal from the BH200 directly to my 1080p TV via component, and sending audio to my receiver via s/pdif and DTS re-encode.

My question is, how much am I actually losing? I don't think I'm losing much on audio, since I use the BH200 almost entirely for HD-DVD these days - and few of these have lossless audio tracks. But is the 1080i signal being sent over component the same 1920x1080 signal done over HDMI, only interlaced, or is it actually 1366x768? I watched the HD-DVD of Planet Earth recently on this configuration, and I was really impressed - it looked just as sharp.
post #2704 of 2819
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Originally Posted by Ubertrout View Post
After a long time using the BH-200 as my primary player, I've upgraded to an Oppo BDP-93. Given a paucity of HDMI ports on my receiver, I am now sending the video signal from the BH200 directly to my 1080p TV via component, and sending audio to my receiver via s/pdif and DTS re-encode.

My question is, how much am I actually losing? I don't think I'm losing much on audio, since I use the BH200 almost entirely for HD-DVD these days - and few of these have lossless audio tracks. But is the 1080i signal being sent over component the same 1920x1080 signal done over HDMI, only interlaced, or is it actually 1366x768? I watched the HD-DVD of Planet Earth recently on this configuration, and I was really impressed - it looked just as sharp.
With planet earth HD, you should not be loosing anything on the video side, since those are 1080i anyhow. I think both the BBC and Discovery Channel versions are that way? You will loose a little going two steps down from 1080p/24fps->1080p/60fs>1080i/60fps, but I doubt you will notice it much. It all depends on the quality of your TV and your eye. Personally I don't see much of a difference. Sure 1080p/24 BDs and HDs look better most of the time than 1080i TV broadcasts, but there are other factors there. Often my old D-VHS 1080i movies look as good or better than the same movie on HD or BD. In the early days of BD, they always looked better, hence the term "blur-ray". On the audio side, you could be loosing much more. Most HDs include DD+ which I believe are generally at or above 1.5mbps. You should be ok with anything traditional DD5.1 or DTS since 1.5 is the upper limit of DTS and 640 or so is probably the highest any DD5.1 BD goes? Many of your DD+, DDTHD and DTS-HD, (HR/MA) movies would be limited in sound quality. For most people once you get to 1.5 DTS you can't hear much of a difference. I can hear a vast difference between lossy and lossless codecs since my ears are much better than my eyes. I think DTS considers it to be "master" quality equivalent at the DTS 1.5 level or some term like that?
post #2705 of 2819
Mr. Kludge, thanks. I'm not really using the BH-200 for BDs since I got the Oppo unit, so now I really just use it for my HD-DVDs - which is why I'm less concerned about audio, since only a few even have a lossless track.

I guess Planet Earth isn't good material to test then...I'm just wondering if the only difference is the 60hz picture being interlaced, or if it's at a lower resolution.
post #2706 of 2819
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Originally Posted by Ubertrout View Post

Mr. Kludge, thanks. I'm not really using the BH-200 for BDs since I got the Oppo unit, so now I really just use it for my HD-DVDs - which is why I'm less concerned about audio, since only a few even have a lossless track.

I guess Planet Earth isn't good material to test then...I'm just wondering if the only difference is the 60hz picture being interlaced, or if it's at a lower resolution.

Ya I got that you are just using it for HD. HD-DVDs are required to have a minimum of DD+ audio, which has a much higher resolution than plain old AC3 DD5.1 and can have a much higher resolution than traditional DTS. Also, HD-DVD players are required to support DD TrueHD, but that is another story for another day. Anyhow, since you are using DTS Re-encode you are limited to the capabilities of DTS which is a 1.5mbps data stream for audio. I'm not sure of the limits of DD+, but many HD-DVDs are sure to have a much higher bandwidth than you are going to get over the s/pDIF connection. Still, unless you have thousands invested in AVR and speakers, you are not going to hear much difference in the audio, unless you have golden ears like me.

Regarding video, yes, it is just interlaced, rather than progressive, but it is at the exact same resolution as what you would get with 1080p either at 60fps or 24fps. It all depends on how good your display and eyes are weather you will see a difference. I just got through watching Out of Sight on D-VHS DTheater for the first time time this evening direct connected to my Sammy DLP with HDMI for video and s/pDif DTS to my AVR. The PQ and SQ were simply amazing. I haven't opened my HD copy of this movie yet, or purchased or rented the very new BD version, but I doubt that they would improve much on this stellar video and audio transfer. D-VHS DTheater is limited to 1080i/60fps, however it looked as good or better than anything I have watched on BD lately.

So, I would not worry too much about it. You are getting full HD resolution and very decent DTS audio, which a few years ago what the best you could do, and still looks and sounds great.
post #2707 of 2819
Has anybody else had the problem that if you set the audio to pass through when playing a HDDVD it outputs digital noise. It is OK with blu-ray, but not HDDVD. So, I have to switch to multichannel audio for HDDVD. What I find strange is when I set audio to DTS re-encode, it plays through on that setting without noise. I was just curious if anybody else had this problem?
post #2708 of 2819
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Originally Posted by mr.kludge View Post

Ya I got that you are just using it for HD.
So, I would not worry too much about it. You are getting full HD resolution and very decent DTS audio, which a few years ago what the best you could do, and still looks and sounds great.

Thanks for the detailed reply, it told me exactly what I wanted to know. I won't worry about it.
post #2709 of 2819
Yes, I have the same problem. It happened when the default audio for the HDDVD title is DD5.1. The digital noise goes away when I switch the audio to Dolby TrueHD or Dolby Digital Plus.

So what will be a solution for this problem? Change audio setting at BH200 to DTS re-encode? Will I be losing DTS Master Audio when playing blu-ray titles?

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Originally Posted by Sunnie View Post

Has anybody else had the problem that if you set the audio to pass through when playing a HDDVD it outputs digital noise. It is OK with blu-ray, but not HDDVD. So, I have to switch to multichannel audio for HDDVD. What I find strange is when I set audio to DTS re-encode, it plays through on that setting without noise. I was just curious if anybody else had this problem?
post #2710 of 2819
Hi. My LG BH200 won't play HD-DVDs anymore. - When I want to play a HD-DVD both lights "Blu-ray" and "HD-DVD" are flashing as usual and after a few seconds it recognizes that it's a HD-DVD, so far so good.
But then nothing else happens, the display shows "Reading" and the screen is the standard LG Super Blu one and that's about it. I can't do anything else except turning the player off and hit "Eject" when I start it again so it won't hang itself up again.
Blu-ray & DVD play back (Regions A, B) work perfectly fine. (Except when I want t change the BD region code, it works and is saved but the player hangs itself up and I can't close the tray again so I have to turn it off.)

What do you think? Is the player going to say bye bye in a few weeks?
post #2711 of 2819
Thread Starter 
Hey guys.

Long time no visit. I noticed the "0702 Driver" link was dead, updated. The rest of the links still work.

I take it the latest firmware is still the 30th of March 2010 (BH02100330A)? That's all I can see on the USA and Canadian Service sites.
post #2712 of 2819
Hi,

I also think it is the latest firmware released.
When I plug my BH200 to internet it says there is no connection so I gues there won't be any new one.
post #2713 of 2819
I haven't checked for a while, did the latest firmware fix the helicopter sound issue when play back DD+ with certain receiver (like Pioneer)?
post #2714 of 2819
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Originally Posted by wlee1225 View Post

I haven't checked for a while, did the latest firmware fix the helicopter sound issue when play back DD+ with certain receiver (like Pioneer)?

I thought that particular problem was fixed by a firmware update from Pioneer. I don't think it can be fixed in the LG.
post #2715 of 2819
"Legend of the Guardians: The Owls of Ga'Hoole" Region A Rental would not load for me. I have continued to use this player for all Region B and HD DVD but not much for Region A Blu-ray but this was the first problem I have seen in a while. Overall, I have grown fond of this player for its intended purpose but was disappointed this disc wouldn't play. An Oppo and my PS3 play it fine.
post #2716 of 2819
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Originally Posted by Mermaid Man View Post
Hi. My LG BH200 won't play HD-DVDs anymore. - When I want to play a HD-DVD both lights "Blu-ray" and "HD-DVD" are flashing as usual and after a few seconds it recognizes that it's a HD-DVD, so far so good.
But then nothing else happens, the display shows "Reading" and the screen is the standard LG Super Blu one and that's about it. I can't do anything else except turning the player off and hit "Eject" when I start it again so it won't hang itself up again.
Blu-ray & DVD play back (Regions A, B) work perfectly fine. (Except when I want t change the BD region code, it works and is saved but the player hangs itself up and I can't close the tray again so I have to turn it off.)

What do you think? Is the player going to say bye bye in a few weeks?
Can you make sure your HD DVDs have not gone bad. There are a number of reports of HD DVD deterioration. Here are two forums with some reports and reference to other sites. I am not seeing it yet but I have just begun checking. If your player has in fact quit playing HD DVD, death for other formats may not be imminent but that sure wouldn't surprise me.

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/foru...s#post_3811799

http://www.highdefforum.com/showthre...02#post1179502
post #2717 of 2819
Hello all,

I have been trying to locate the firmware update for the loader used in the BH200 drive. After much searching (on this forum and the rest of the 'net) it appears that the file linked here is long gone...

Namely this thread: http://test.avsforum.com/avs-vb/show...php?p=13411907

Which links to what it calls the "driver firmware"

http://www.rapidspread.com/file.jsp?id=d3526telxn

with the filename: "LG BH200 Driver Upgrade 0702 (2008-03-21).zip"

I'm looking for that file (and any others, if they exist) as I am performing analysis of the unit and the loader firmware.

I hope someone has it backed up somewhere, can anyone please help?

Thanks!
post #2718 of 2819
does the BH200 convert between NTSC and PAL ? cause I get a pal signal fine on my Bh200 at 1080p when I have the eeprom changed to 80. But I just got a new Panny DVDR DMR-EH69. I put in some of the same region 2 discs that ive played on my Bh200 and I get no signal on my sony XBR6 which is 60hz. bh200 outputs pal and displays it fine. but on my EH69 I get an incompatible display message on my TV when trying to play a region 2 disc.

WTF ? I mean I never used a NTSC to Pal converter on the BH200 and it worked fine with pal. something is not right here.
post #2719 of 2819
PAL/NTSC will only apply to SD content, or do you mean 1080i/50 vs. 1080i/60 content such as some menus ?

My BH200 into a Pio Kuro works fine in any combination of region settings and discs - with the usual exceptions for disc content problems.
post #2720 of 2819
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Originally Posted by Peter Galbavy View Post

PAL/NTSC will only apply to SD content, or do you mean 1080i/50 vs. 1080i/60 content such as some menus ?

My BH200 into a Pio Kuro works fine in any combination of region settings and discs - with the usual exceptions for disc content problems.

if you are upscalling a region 2 dvd to 1080P it is still going to output pal.
post #2721 of 2819
It may retain the same refresh rate, but the output will not be "PAL" or "NTSC" - they are quite specific formats which include colour space, resolution (analogue and digital) etc. I guess you mean your setup doesn't do right with 50Hz content ?
post #2722 of 2819
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Originally Posted by Peter Galbavy View Post

It may retain the same refresh rate, but the output will not be "PAL" or "NTSC" - they are quite specific formats which include colour space, resolution (analogue and digital) etc. I guess you mean your setup doesn't do right with 50Hz content ?

on my EH69 im using the new zealand AC cable and it supports 50hz. and I get an incompatible display message on my sony 32 XBR6 which is a 60hz TV. but it has displayed pal before like on my Bh200

on my BH200 ive been playing pal discs on it for like 2 years now. its a usa player and I followed the instuctions on here to make it region free and changed the hex in the eeprom menu to 80 and I get a display perfectly on my 32xbr6. when I have the fourth hex changed to 80 I can only get an image at outputting 1080P.

the main problem is here on my new Panny DMR-EH69 which already comes region free. I get an error message on my sony tv when trying to play a pal disc. same tv, I have it set to output 1080P HDMI. but no display, But i get a display fine on my Bh200 with pal content.

already have a thread open in the DVR section concerning the panny. I brought the attention to his over here cause some think the BH200 might convert between NTSC and Pal and wanted to double check on that. but I am pretty sure it does not.
post #2723 of 2819
I have two LG BH200 one plays the Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows part 1 special Features Blu-ray while the other say disc error and ejects it. does any one know what the problem both are loaded with latest firmware
post #2724 of 2819
Do you have a USB memory stick in both ? Are they the same size ? Can you swap them over and see what happens ?

Are the region codes and other PROM values the same ? (Pause - 1 - 4 - 7 - 2 etc.) ?
post #2725 of 2819
the one that works is not conected to the internet and has no memory stick installed while the one that fails does. I will see if removal of memory stick and cat 5 cable will fix the issue
post #2726 of 2819
it worked disconnecting the memory stick and the cat 5 cable thanks
post #2727 of 2819
Can someone please upload the 0702 driver cant find it anywhere.
post #2728 of 2819
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Originally Posted by ktulu666 View Post

Can someone please upload the 0702 driver cant find it anywhere.

i couldnt find it on the net either. However plugging in the ethernet cable and switching unit back to region A (as mine is region B at moment) the network update installs the latest driver 0702

can you connect yours to ethernet?
post #2729 of 2819
Damn, can't get this to play Suspiria at all. Anyone else try that disc (or Paradise Lost)?
post #2730 of 2819
In case anybody is curious, I had no problems playing the Star Wars Blu-ray discs on the latest firmware for the bh200. I'm sure lots of people have already found this out too, but if you were nervous about buying it, this may answer one of those concerns. It doesn't make Han shoot first though.
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