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Netflix Watch Instantly

How does quality of connection affect your download?

The netflix service scans your connection when you connect and adjust the bitrate of the video to give the fastest playback at the best setting. Here is how it works

Bitrate of video in Mbits / Connection required to get that bitrate

500 / 700
1000 / 1400
1600 / 2240
2200 / 3080

I am not able to watch it on my TV when connected through S-Video/Component and I get a DRM error?

Call tech support. You might have to try more than once until you get someone who know how it works

What type of video card are you using?

There are issues with some video cards and DRM compliance. There is a known issue with many nvidia cards that require atleast one video port to be VGA or DVI out. I had a problem where I had my htpc connection hooked up to my TV with an s-video connection. I ended up having to keep a monitor hooked up to the vga and drag the netflix window from the monitor to the TV using duel view mode. I upgrade to a projector with dvi/hdmi in and have not had that problem since. I got the same issue you are describing where it just wouldn't work no matter how many times I reset my DRM with their tool.

What type of display are you using and what is it connected to?

There is a possibility that some DVI connections will not work for a similar reason to the one above.

From what I have read, it is a similar issue to where you cannot upconvert an SD DVD to 1080p on certain HD players for fear you would copy the video. Some people have been able to get it to work by temporary changing their settings to 480p (640x480) instead.

Is Netflix going to come out with a set top box for netflix online? Can I use it with my PS3 or Xbox?

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Netflix, LG to Bring Streaming Movies to TVs

By Terrence Russell January 03, 2008 | 11:10:26 AM Categories: Television



Netflix has announced a partnership with LG Electronics to produce set-top boxes that stream movies from its online catalog to HDTVs. The good news? For existing Netflix subscribers, there's no additional cost for the service (save for the set-top box itself). The bad news is that the product is part of LG's arsenal for the upcoming CES show -- so we won't be able to tinker with it until the second half of 2008.

According to Netflix CEO Reed Hastings, following in Apple TV's footsteps was the company's initial game plan for this product. "Netflix explored also offering its own Netflix-branded set-top boxes," Hastings said in a statement, "but we concluded that familiar consumer electronics devices from industry leaders like LG Electronics are a better consumer solution for getting the Internet to the TV."

With the meager reception of Apple TV, it's not surprising that a newcomer like Netflix is treading lightly and letting LG handle the hardware. Although it's most likely a wise decision, only time will tell if it's ultimately fool-proof.

For the most part, Netflix has already held up its part of the bargain. The service already has a healthy subscriber base that can access to over 6,000 movies and TV shows on-demand through its site. But up until this point feature length content was largely restricted to either computer screens or services like Apple TV. By partnering with LG, Netflix is not only poised to give Cupertino a run for its money, but also every other video on demand service out there.

Assuming, of course, that LG doesn't make consumers pay through the nose for the new player. For more info on the Netflix/LG wunderkind, be sure to tune in to the Gadgetlab's CES 2008 coverage over the next couple weeks.

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Online video rental service Netflix, which already has announced it's producing a set-top box with electronics manufacturer LG that would allow movies to be streamed to your TV, apparently is working on the same thing for video game consoles.

Some Netflix members are reporting on the Internet they are receiving e-mails from the Los Gatos, Calif., to participate in a survey asking them how often they would use a service allowing them to watch streaming movies on their TVs through a PlayStation 3 or Xbox 360 gaming console.

The message states that for a PS3, all the viewer needs to do is put in a $3 disc.

"Once you have the disc, you can choose from over 7,000 movies and TV series, and your choice starts playing on your television in as little as 30 seconds," the survey states. "Watching is included in your Netflix plan. There are no extra fees and there are no limits on how much you can watch."

http://www.sltrib.com/ci_8362804?source=rss

What type of video format are they using?

Netflix uses WMV. Windows Media Video (WMV) is a compressed video file format for several proprietary codecs developed by Microsoft. It is very similar in design to VC1 used on HDM, but at a much lower resolution to allow playback on lower end systems.

The Netflix Player is a frontend for Windows Media Player and often needs an upgrade before it will play. Because it uses WMP's engine, you can adjust the video playback with filters such as FFDShow. It is also possible to output this adjust the audio or sent it out bitstreamed to a receiver using filters as well.
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Do we have any updates on the console "discs"?
post #3 of 819
Wife and I watched a movie off this service lastnight. I was pleasantly surprised at the quality.
post #4 of 819
I agree. Quality is similar to DVD. Haven't had any lag or bandwidth issues on my HTPC. Wish they would employ WMA 5.1 instead of stereo but with ProLogicII sound is good. Really can't complain seeing as it costs nothing on top of regular membership. God bless the guy who wrote the Netflix plug-in for Media Center!
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Look like on the Netflix site under the instant watch tab they are now advertising set-top boxs by Roku for 100$

http://www.roku.com/netflixplayer/
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Im wondering if the quality of this will be any good on a larger TV. According to cnets review its not even as good as a standard dvd.
post #7 of 819
Netflix is having an "investor day" webcast next week, from 8:00am to 12:30pm Pacific time...Content announcements?

http://files.shareholder.com/downloa...2208%20vr3.pdf

Edit: Next week...the 28th.
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Originally Posted by mbarton13 View Post

Look like on the Netflix site under the instant watch tab they are now advertising set-top boxs by Roku for 100$

http://www.roku.com/netflixplayer/

Saw the announcement this morning. I suspect this will be pretty attractive to the folks that don't have a PC hooked up to their home theater (silly people). Price seems right. The remote looks like a garage door opener

For all those who turn their noses up at streaming compressed content: no it's not perfect. Not even standard DVD quality. What's pivotal about Netflix streaming is although immature now, they have the audience, and the library to bring about some real progress in the way movies and TV shows are viewed (on demand with a flat monthly fee).

Anyone who's played around with the various streaming services over the years would likely agree - this is the best yet...and getting better
post #9 of 819
I think Netflix is trying to corner the market. I saw the Roku player now I wonder what the LG box is going to look like and do that this little player can't
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Will this lead to streaming HD movies at high bit rates so as not to lose quality?
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The article from Electronic House says it is not streaming HD yet but from the sounds of it HD is coming soon how soon I don't know. I can tell you BlockBuster is probably scrambling to get something similar out and will probably try to add HD so it can be the first,so be on the look out for BB. Competition is always good.
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I want the rumored player discs to the PS3. Its a machine more than powerful enough to handle streaming.
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Originally Posted by nineteen70 View Post

The article from Electronic House says it is not streaming HD yet but from the sounds of it HD is coming soon how soon I don't know. I can tell you BlockBuster is probably scrambling to get something similar out and will probably try to add HD so it can be the first,so be on the look out for BB. Competition is always good.

As long as it is not bit-starved. Otherwise it will just be HD-Lite.
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Originally Posted by E-A-G-L-E-S View Post

As long as it is not bit-starved. Otherwise it will just be HD-Lite.

Even if its DVD quality that's pretty good for the size of the library and the unlimitedness.

We just need to make sure we get good sound that more than 2.0.
post #15 of 819
For many, but I rarely watch SD DVD's anymore....only if it is not released in HD.
post #16 of 819
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Originally Posted by E-A-G-L-E-S View Post

As long as it is not bit-starved. Otherwise it will just be HD-Lite.

I think the first implementation we see will be a kind of "HD-Lite". Probably a 720p 5.1 @ 3mbps or so. Netflix uses WMV, so 5.1 WMA audio would be a nice addition. Total file size around 3-5GB Here's where the bandwidth limitations come into play. Would likely take 4-5 hours to download (at best). Not exactly on-demand. Get home from work and pick what the movie you want to watch, then after dinner, get the kids to bed and it's buffered out enough where you can start watching. I dunno, all speculation.
post #17 of 819
this has probably been discussed, but I was wondering. Why cant we have the hotel type hardware for on demand movies? Is it satellite driven?

What is great is that they show newly released material.

This new Roku player seems so limited now.

Paul
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Originally Posted by MEDISIN View Post

I think the first implementation we see will be a kind of "HD-Lite". Probably a 720p 5.1 @ 3mbps or so. Netflix uses WMV, so 5.1 WMA audio would be a nice addition. Total file size around 3-5GB Here's where the bandwidth limitations come into play. Would likely take 4-5 hours to download (at best). Not exactly on-demand. Get home from work and pick what the movie you want to watch, then after dinner, get the kids to bed and it's buffered out enough where you can start watching. I dunno, all speculation.

I don't know why you would think this. Both Vudu and AppleTV offer similar "HD-Lite" and neither take much wait period at all.

I think I might get one of these. Might as well make more use from my Netflix subscription, and it's only $99. Practically free! Ok, not really, but pretty cheap nonetheless. I assume the box is HD capable (even if they aren't offering HD right now).
post #19 of 819
My wife says don't even bother if its not DVD quality. Oh yeah, she's spoiled!
post #20 of 819
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Originally Posted by mproper View Post

I don't know why you would think this. Both Vudu and AppleTV offer similar "HD-Lite" and neither take much wait period at all.

From what I understand, their "HD" has good resolution but low bitrate which is why playback starts without much wait.

I recall reading the "HD" from Vudu isn't much better than their SD service. The low bitrates seem to be a trend with many of these "HD" services. I'm living in hopes of a higher bitrate "HD" deployment from Netflix. But I rarely get what I want
post #21 of 819
I just ordered one. The AuPair will be able to use it to keep the offspring amused...worth it's weight in gold. If only they had Thomas & Friends available for instant download. Anyway with the purchase of this, my Comcast box goes out the window as the only reason we kept cable was for the kids shows on demand.
post #22 of 819
I hope Netflix in the near future makes all their titles available for instant viewing. For anyone who has'nt looked at their current instant movies lately they arent the greatest titles.
post #23 of 819
I snagged one; I figured for $99 with a 30day money back time period, why not? Often, there are movies I wouldn't mind seeing, but I don't want to waste a netflix slot for them (3 out at a time program) and miss out on a new release.

I already have an AppleTV, but am not a big fan of iTunes and their pay to view setup. I mostly use the AppleTV to view YouTube on the big screen, and to view digital photos - why I bought it in the first place.
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well, at least we are heading in the right direction.
post #25 of 819
Ditto boykster. $99 was too cheap to pass on, given it'll help me get more from my Netflix membership. I've streamed a few movies to my PC via the Watch Instantly service, but I'll certainly make more use of it if I can watch from the couch.

For those with a Windows Vista Media Center HTPC, note that you can grab the vmcNetflix plugin for improved Netflix integration -- *PLUS*, the plugin reportedly enables "Instant Watch" capability on the Xbox 360, through Vista MCE extender functionality.

edit: See this review of the THREE current MCE Netflix plugins, as of late May2008, for more info.
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Thanks for that vmcNetflix link - that is very cool. I have a HTPC connected to a 46" Sharp D62U, and the "watch instantly" movies from Netflix look quite nice - lots of the titles are anamorphic widescreen. The overall video quality is almost as nice as DVD IMO, and better than analog SD. I also think that the quality is as good or better than Amazon unbox.
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I'm tempted to get this, but also tempted to wait since I have the 360 (no Vista MCE though) and hope that they will make it available through it soon.

Does anyone know if the Roku box is or will be available anywhere besides the website? If I could get it at BB, I have a $50 gift card, but don't see it listed there (yet).
post #28 of 819
I can't wait to try out the roku box. I think it will work great along with a tr-50 for a very cheap tv service. Hopefully my girlfriend will let me cancel cable.
post #29 of 819
I really like where the digital streaming is going, and while I have 2 HTPCs integrated into my video distribution system, I only use them for watching ripped DVDs using DVDLobby + ZoomPlayer.

Changing those systems to include MCE or other method for streaming netflix would require a major overhaul to those systems, and they are very stable, entirely controlled by IR remote, and WAF friendly to the point that my wife uses it regularly on her own. Heck, even my parents who are in their 60's use the system easily on their own.

By dropping this netflix box into the video system and adding some remote pages/codes to the pronto remotes it seems that I'll have an easy addition for minimal $ and effort.
post #30 of 819
I ordered one (already have a netflix subscription). I'll return it if the quality is too poor.
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