Blu Ray Component Output....  

Yes, in order to upconvert, you need to run video through HDMI.

There might be some, but I'm not aware of any blu-ray players without component outputs. 1080p, however, isn't available over component and 480p is the limit on DVD via component.

HDCP compliant won't allow upconvert over analog. A Sony A/V Receiver allows upconvert over component but it is a wash since any material that has a copyright protection, it falls back to either 480i/p.

slyck1,

All Blu-Ray disc will playback at 1080i or 720p via component. However, your Blu-Ray player will not allow you to upconvert SD DVD's. SD DVD's will playback at 480p.

I'm in the same situation as you with component cables run thru walls. And i don't want two disc players in my HT. So this is the work around. Rip your SD DVD's. When you playback ripped copies of SD DVD's, your Blu-Ray player can then upconvert to either 720p or 1080i.

I don't have a library of DVD's, I'm a renter. I rent the DVD, rip it, watch it and then trash it.

Jon

I have started doing the same thing to watch standard dvds on my pioneer bdp 94. However I am interested in knowing what people think of the pioneer's upconverting capabilities. I have heard that the toshiba hddvd players are better. Do you or anyone know how the pioneer stacks up against other upconverters?

There are already quite a few recent threads on 'upconvert' and 'component'. Is there a real need for another?

For example:
Can I use Blue Ray with Component Outlet?

Is there a BD Player that can output 720p/1080i through Component Video Cables?

I keep seeing people who mention that ripped DVDs can be upconverted via component without further qualifications, as if all players do that. Well, my Panny BD30 won't do it, it just gives you 480p.

Well, it's works on my Sony BDP-300. Playing the ripped disc allows me to choose output formats 480i, 480p, 720p, & 1080i on BDP-300. Then on my projector menu it displays the format being received. And it's telling me it's receiving exactly the output I'm choosing on the projector. In my case 1080i.

When I play the original disc, I can also change output formats on the BDP-300, but the projector menu only verifies receiving signal as 480i or 480P.

As far as the component upconvert quality of the BDP-300, it looks good to me. My SD-DVD player is a Zenith DVB-318, which is an excellent upconverter. But it's just too inconvenient to do a side by side comparison.

Concerning your the BD-30, go into it's menu and select to output 1080i with your ripped disc in the player and then check what your display device is receiving.

Not sure why your down on this thread, HDMI stuff is covered out the wazoo. I know that very few people are concerned with component output, other than us projector people. But for us it's a big issue, we have cables buried in walls, programmed remotes and racks already filled with equipment. The last thing i need is a 2nd media player just to upconvert SD DVD's.

John

I didn't say the Sony S300 won't do it: I know it does but the Panny doesn't. This isn't about the Sony or the merits of upconverting at all. Have you actually tried getting upconversion of non-protected DVDs via component on the Panny? Do you think I made a post without first checking the settings?

Well, I guess the Panny BD-30 won't do it, since you say so. However, I don't see why it wouldn't since the protection is stripped off in the copy process.

John

Not a fanboy here, but nothing does a better job upconverting in my house than my Toshiba HDA2. My Blu-ray player does a descent job, but not nearly as good as the Toshiba.

Also, even at 1080i, I'll take HDMI over component any day. It's just a better picture.

Your missing the point, some of our TV's and projectors don't have HDMI inputs. And concerning the HDA2, that is an excellent upconverter, but also requires a ripped SD-DVD in able to upconvert via component.

John

Oh...sorry. I guess I got a little excited there.

In the Panasonic BD30 manual on page 7 it says:

"You can enjoy high definition images by connecting to a component video terminal that supports 720p and 1080i signals.
...
To enjoy high definition/progressive video
- Connect to a television that supports 480p or higher
- Set "Component Video Resolution" to "480p", "720p" or "1080i". (=> 22)
- Set "HDMI Video Mode" to "Off". (=> 22)
Otherwise, the video is output as 480i. "

DOES THIS MEAN UPCONVERSION?

If I insert a fully featured A/V receiver between the player and the LCD TV, may I presume that the same 720p upconversion will be passed through?

Using a DVD+RW works well for temporary ripping of SD-DVDs if your player can play them.

Yes, up to 1080i in Blu-ray discs (with 480i/p resolution as in the extras) and only to 480p for DVD-Video, which is only de-interlacing, not upconversion (see p.22 under 'component video resolution'). I'll say it again: the Panny will NOT upconvert non-protected (ripped) DVDs via component.

I've been using DVD -R's. Burn time on rw disc is too long.

That sounds like a good case for one of these "media centers" where you can rip+store DVDs. Most DVDs these days are dual-layer (even movie-only), so to get the best video quality you would NOT want to compress them down to a single-layer disc. Since dual-layer DVD-Rs are still much more expensive than single-layer DVD-Rs, trashing all those discs would seem to be an expensive option, and it might make the media center cost more palatable.

I've been using the Best Buy Dynex brand. They run frequent sales. Very cheap.

Thanks for the links.


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