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post #211 of 3905
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Originally Posted by nitt4ever View Post

RiVoLT,
Still waiting on those settings
Got them ready?

Thanks.

Sorry I haven't posted them already. It's gotten busy lately (work's busy + I've gone nutz and decided to go 52" - should be here Saturday!) I've had a hard time keeping up with the regular owners thread let alone this one.

I'll type up my settings and post as soon as time allows. Hang in there.

-RiVoLT
post #212 of 3905
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Originally Posted by metal83 View Post

Nobody?

I use dynamic for everything but movies. I combine it with the color and white settings by podol and add dni, hdmi black level, and all the other settings turned on.

For movies I like movie mode with 24 frames feature, and hoping some of them take the extended color setting(yuvcc or something) into account.
post #213 of 3905
I have a PS3 hooked up to this TV and when you play a blueray movie you see it is in the 24HZ mode. Now when I playback sd stuff it says it is outputting 60HZ. Is this what it is supposed to do, or is there something I"m missing, even thou both look great. Also is this what there calling, force the 24HZ output? By a setting in the PS3. If someone could give PS3 settings for this set that would be great. I"m using Evil4blue setting and are very imprest with them.
post #214 of 3905
Couple quick questions.

I have 1002 firmware......What calibration setting would work best?

I see a lot the settings that are posted are based on 1003 firmware.............when I try those settings it either seems to dark or dull.

I love my Tv but it just seems like I am missing something..........I feel like it do more...................especially when I watch the NBA playoffs........I am satisfied yet.

What do you guys think?
post #215 of 3905
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Originally Posted by dman99 View Post

Couple quick questions.

I have 1002 firmware......What calibration setting would work best?

I see a lot the settings that are posted are based on 1003 firmware.............when I try those settings it either seems to dark or dull.

I love my Tv but it just seems like I am missing something..........I feel like it do more...................especially when I watch the NBA playoffs........I am satisfied yet.

What do you guys think?

The FW won't matter, it doesn't effect the settings that have been posted. What you are seeing is typical when sets get calibrated. They will always look dark and will almost alway use the warm settings. I don't care for them. I got an LCD because it is bright and don't understand why you'd want to tone it down just to make it look like a CRT. I think these setting are based on an old standard and on how the industry tries to insure a consistent picture. I for one like a picture that looks "ultra" real life. It looks real but with a little extra, little more vibrant.
post #216 of 3905
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Originally Posted by dman99 View Post

Couple quick questions.

I have 1002 firmware......What calibration setting would work best?

I see a lot the settings that are posted are based on 1003 firmware.............when I try those settings it either seems to dark or dull.

I love my Tv but it just seems like I am missing something..........I feel like it do more...................especially when I watch the NBA playoffs........I am satisfied yet.

What do you guys think?


DMan,

I have 1003 firmware and have tried various settings and I too find it a bit on the darker side. I am new to this and I believe that the darker picture is what the "pros" are looking for. To each his own. I used Znut's settings and up'd the backlight slightly and changed from Movie to standard mode, and I am very pleased. Whats important is how the picture looks to you and what you want. Use the settings people post here as a baseline.

Thank you Znut for your settings but more importantly the awesome format you used. I think it should be a standard Word doc for people who post thier settings here.
post #217 of 3905
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Originally Posted by T100 View Post

I have a PS3 hooked up to this TV and when you play a blueray movie you see it is in the 24HZ mode. Now when I playback sd stuff it says it is outputting 60HZ. Is this what it is supposed to do, or is there something I"m missing, even thou both look great. Also is this what there calling, force the 24HZ output? By a setting in the PS3. If someone could give PS3 settings for this set that would be great. I"m using Evil4blue setting and are very imprest with them.

The PS3 will output Blu-Rays at 24hz when the option is enabled. That being said; it only is for Blu-Rays. Games, downloads, DVDs will still output at 60hz.

You are not missing anything.
post #218 of 3905
How do you get into HDMI Black? It's greyed out for me...

So is Just Scan
post #219 of 3905
Everyone needs to remember that today's calibration standards assume that the TV is located in a light controlled (read dim/dark) environment. My TV is in a bedroom which stays relatively dark and my calibration settings reflect that. In fact, at night, I still think the TV is too bright and after a while, my eyes will start to hurt from the brightness.

Back on point, if you're viewing environment is relatively bright, the "Calibration" settings will look dark. I think znut did a good job of lightening my basic settings, and it's obvious by most of the posts, most of the users are in a brighter viewing area than the color standards were built for.

Any way, don't use any of the settings found here as gospel or law, used them as a basis to adjusting YOUR TV to YOUR liking. I know much of what I just wrote is understood and second nature to a lot of you, but I figured it was better written for the Noobs amongst us.
post #220 of 3905
Thanks znutz for the info. The question I also had is, i"ve seen forced 24hz what does that mean or does it even apply at all. I also have a XA2 and have seen in there forum section about they wished it had that setting, just was trying to understand what it meant or what it is about.
post #221 of 3905
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Originally Posted by Evil4blue View Post

Everyone needs to remember that today's calibration standards assume that the TV is located in a light controlled (read dim/dark) environment. My TV is in a bedroom which stays relatively dark and my calibration settings reflect that. In fact, at night, I still think the TV is too bright and after a while, my eyes will start to hurt from the brightness.

Back on point, if you're viewing environment is relatively bright, the "Calibration" settings will look dark. I think znut did a good job of lightening my basic settings, and it's obvious by most of the posts, most of the users are in a brighter viewing area than the color standards were built for.

Any way, don't use any of the settings found here as gospel or law, used them as a basis to adjusting YOUR TV to YOUR liking. I know much of what I just wrote is understood and second nature to a lot of you, but I figured it was better written for the Noobs amongst us.

I like to first work with my settings with my HD DVD DVE disk, and then use these threads to compare my results to others. I found it interesting that what I ended up with for the 650 came very close to your posted settings, minus the Color and WB adjustments you made, as I left those alone because I don't have calibration equipment. I also view in a dim room. This set just looks too damn good when adjusted properly, I can't believe how good it looks.
post #222 of 3905
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Originally Posted by Evil4blue View Post

Everyone needs to remember that today's calibration standards assume that the TV is located in a light controlled (read dim/dark) environment. My TV is in a bedroom which stays relatively dark and my calibration settings reflect that. In fact, at night, I still think the TV is too bright and after a while, my eyes will start to hurt from the brightness.

Back on point, if you're viewing environment is relatively bright, the "Calibration" settings will look dark. I think znut did a good job of lightening my basic settings, and it's obvious by most of the posts, most of the users are in a brighter viewing area than the color standards were built for.

Any way, don't use any of the settings found here as gospel or law, used them as a basis to adjusting YOUR TV to YOUR liking. I know much of what I just wrote is understood and second nature to a lot of you, but I figured it was better written for the Noobs amongst us.

My setup is in the basement and I too find my eyes starting to feel fatigued. I went and bought a set of Cylon led ambient lights at costco (6 sticks for $50 compared to 2 for $99 on their site). I used the ambient lights on my 46" and they work very well, I haven't put them on the 52" yet because it has flashlights and I might send it back.

I know they aren't 6500k standard, but look good because you can change the colors of the LEDs to whatever mood you feel like.

When I'm playing gears of war I like them red, as the game has a lot of red in it, looks good.

I highly recommend ambient lights to increase contrast ratio and relieve eye strain.

Mosh~~
post #223 of 3905
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Originally Posted by znutz View Post

Update: Adjusted Settings for Firmware 1003.M

I've tweaked the settings over the weekend to what I feel are the best for all around viewing. They are absolutely gorgeous on PS3 and Blu-Ray as well as watching over-the-air HDTV.

Most notable changes from my last settings are those to colors. I felt Evil's were "correct" but they seemed washed out and didn't let the beast breathe. I increased "color" on each input and accounted for "native" color space on TV. Also, tint was adjusted accordingly.

You'll see I changed PC settings to "Dynamic." The outcome was stunning! I'm still trying to circumvent the red "bleeding" that occurs when using the A650 as a PC Monitor. When HDMI/DVI input 2 is in PC mode, the TV greys out most features which creates spectacular contrast and color but it does take on a sort of "bleeding" on the color red. If anyone can help (I'm thinking a video card adjustment) it would be appreciated.

Sumary The adjusted settings have convinced me that this is indeed the perfect TV.

Enjoy!

Samsung LNxxA650 Calibration Settings

How did you get it to not grey out HDMI black level on OTA TV?
post #224 of 3905
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Originally Posted by Kineahora View Post

How did you get it to not grey out HDMI black level on OTA TV?

That's the way it was by default. Although I only view all digital and HD channels. Are you watching standard OTA TV?
post #225 of 3905
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Originally Posted by Ready2Mosh View Post

New firmware, 1003.g is available for the 650 series Samsung TVs. Here is he link:

http://www.samsung.com/us/support/do...sp_nm=LN52A650

Download the file, unzip and place the folder inside of a thumbdrive storage device. Plug device into the side of your TV and go to software update.

This firmware update is supposed to fix the off then on issue. It also increases the strength of AMP.

Mosh~~

How do i turn up the AMP on my TV?
post #226 of 3905
^^Here is the write up on how to turn up the amp. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...s#post13696933 I swear they need to put that on the first page as well as other tips and tricks
post #227 of 3905
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Originally Posted by Ready2Mosh View Post

My setup is in the basement and I too find my eyes starting to feel fatigued. I went and bought a set of Cylon led ambient lights at costco (6 sticks for $50 compared to 2 for $99 on their site). I used the ambient lights on my 46" and they work very well, I haven't put them on the 52" yet because it has flashlights and I might send it back.

I know they aren't 6500k standard, but look good because you can change the colors of the LEDs to whatever mood you feel like.

When I'm playing gears of war I like them red, as the game has a lot of red in it, looks good.

I highly recommend ambient lights to increase contrast ratio and relieve eye strain.

Mosh~~

I have searched Costco and can not find the lighting you are talking about. Are they listed on their website?
post #228 of 3905
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Originally Posted by ksm3 View Post

I have searched Costco and can not find the lighting you are talking about. Are they listed on their website?

Sorry I called them cylon when it is Cyron, http://cyron.com/ . Thats what I got except it was a 6 pack of the LED strips for $50. If you go to that link and click on audio video lighting they show a small demo of them.

The Costco item number is 202476, I called and they are being phased out, so call your local store and have them do a search.

Mosh~~
post #229 of 3905
I absolutely love this tv but the whites seem a little bit too strong. They tend to blur ever so slightly. I'm using standard mode with a backlight of 5 and a brightness of 44. Any suggestions to sharpen up the whites?
post #230 of 3905
i got my 46a650 delivered today from big river. The white glove service was great and the tv is flawless so far! AMP works great and it really pops and there is no stutter or artifacts! PQ is amazing after a few touch ups. This tv is everything the 71f should have been. I havent noticed any lag on ps3 games either. And finally, no flashlights, mura, clouding etc. And last but not least, NO PURPLE HAZE. All those reports of purplish blacks are totally false. They were probably from bad camera angle still pictures that were taken, because there isnt even a faint trace of purple on my set. So far i couldnt be any happier. I think i have finally found a keeper!
post #231 of 3905
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Originally Posted by sd13 View Post

i got my 46a650 delivered today from big river. The white glove service was great and the tv is flawless so far! AMP works great and it really pops and there is no stutter or artifacts! PQ is amazing after a few touch ups. This tv is everything the 71f should have been. I havent noticed any lag on ps3 games either. And finally, no flashlights, mura, clouding etc. And last but not least, NO PURPLE HAZE. All those reports of purplish blacks are totally false. They were probably from bad camera angle still pictures that were taken, because there isnt even a faint trace of purple on my set. So far i couldnt be any happier. I think i have finally found a keeper!

Thats awesome, congrats man, you must feel relieved.
post #232 of 3905
totally relieved. what color settings are you using?
post #233 of 3905
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Originally Posted by sd13 View Post

totally relieved. what color settings are you using?

I havent messed with custom color space or white balance yet.
post #234 of 3905
only thing i did was drop the contrast a few notches down. Im using standard mode and the picture is phenomenal.
post #235 of 3905
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Originally Posted by sd13 View Post

only thing i did was drop the contrast a few notches down. Im using standard mode and the picture is phenomenal.

Cant argue with you there. This tv is definetly capable of some amazing PQ.
post #236 of 3905
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Originally Posted by znutz View Post

That's the way it was by default. Although I only view all digital and HD channels. Are you watching standard OTA TV?

By the way, I tried your settings, and I really like them (thanks so much for your work, and Evil4blue too)--except I unlike others thought they were a bit light in my room to my eyes despite its not being particularly dim in the day. Perhaps it's because I can't use HDMI black level. Perhaps it's because I'm a radiologist and sitting in a darkened room all day at work I am used to and prefer things a bit dark, and am careful to not get contrast too extreme so that subtle shadings of grayscale are lost ("crushed"). I turned down the brightness.

Anyway, back on the issue, I am watching unscrambled cable with coax wire directly into the TV without an STB. I'm not sure how "HDMI black level" is related to the HDMI port, but it's true I'm not using that port... I try to watch as much HD as I can--not sure if "OTA" refers specifically to airwaves, but I am watching SD digital in HD and SD, and some analog SD when I have to. I'm using components for my SD DVD player, I haven't yet bought a blu-ray. Will HDMI cable do a better job with the SD DVD? What about Blu-ray?
post #237 of 3905
So some of you are actually able to save different Digital NR settings for different sources? I can't on mine.
post #238 of 3905
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Originally Posted by Kineahora View Post

Will HDMI cable do a better job with the SD DVD? What about Blu-ray?

HDMI makes a huge difference. When I first received my TV, I put in my Planet Earth Blu-ray disc and switched back and forth between my good quality component and HDMI cables...I will never use component again.
post #239 of 3905
I have gotten used to settings and added more changes to them.......I happy with picture for the most part.

However I have noticed that during basketball games I see light shade of either yellow or purple on the basketball court? This is not a permanent flash of light because when I switch to other programs the picture is flawless.....

Does anybody know why this happens. I am think it is a reflection of lights of the arean the games are played at.

Also....what is the difference between 1003.g and 1003.m? Which one is better?

Last but not least.......once in a while during a TNT broadcast......their is a big green block the covers half the screen for a second. Is this TNT's fault or is this a defect from TV.

I don't mean to be negative........this TV is awesome...........I watched INTO the blue last night on TNT and it was awesome.
post #240 of 3905
Hoping you guys can help me out with this. I frickin love this TV....

I'm using a Comcast HD DVR box. The problem is when I'm watching NON-HD shows, it stretches the picture out horizontally, distorting it. How do I fix this? The "Just Scan" option is greyed out for some reason.

Thank you so much, and for posting the calibration settings guys. It's really a great help to those of us who are new to this.
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