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Originally Posted by
Grandarf 
Fatwan: vaporware doesn't necessarily mean that the product will never get released. Only that it's announced way ahead of time.
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Originally Posted by
Mark L. Schifter 
I'm very very pleased in my hear to see how we handled it from all POV's (most important the OP himself and what he was offered along the way) - but again without the consent of the OP I feel it would be wrong to "post away"...
Oh please... I've just read, well more like skimmed, the last 4 pages of inanity posted in a few hours by very active ********** proponents who continued to attack or tried to defend their idiotic accusations of the original poster being a troll, liar, and I don't know what else.. (Nuance is still asking whether he's a real customer or not

) Worst, they're even trying to get the thread locked because they don't think that it's acceptable to voice a negative opinion/experience on this particular company. How? By posting a constant stream of idiotic content so that the moderators locks his thread and so in effect
censor the original poster.
Now the CEO posts that he's very pleased to see this ********** mobbing?
Really, this whole thing makes me want to puke... How many fans has ********** gained here? How many more 'haters' as so many are so quick to call anyone not pro actively hyping/pimping this company? And then, MLS gives words of encouragement to the mobs. It really leaves an extremely bad taste in my mouth. I'm sure it's even worst for the original poster after the way he's been treated here...
[edit] Actually, maybe MLS meant 'we' as in the paid ********** staff and not 'the ********** family', in which case he wisely distanced himself from the mob here... The "from all the POV" is somewhat ambiguous and opened for interpretation... Which now thinking back was probably not my own... Anyway, in the end it doesn't change much.
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Originally Posted by
d red 
It's amazing. Your attempt to save face with your edit actually made you look even more foolish. "maybe MLS meant....." "in which case he wisely distanced himself from the mob..." You screwed up and are still trying to prove your incorrect point? Do yourself a favor.....STOP.
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Originally Posted by
Mark L. Schifter 
I'm very very pleased in my hear to see how
we handled it
from all POV's (
most important the OP himself and what he was offered along the way) - but again without the consent of the OP I feel it would be wrong to "post away"...
My edit wasn't an attempt to save face. Merely an attempt at full disclosure. MLS said that he was very pleased about how it was handled from all points of views, which must definitely include this thread... He then said that what was most important was what the OP was offered along the way. What was he offered along the way in this thread? He's been called a liar, a troll, a hoax, if not explicitly by some definitely implicitly.

So he's very pleased with that?
All I said is that after rereading the quote (check the edit time, before you posted your message btw), I noticed that it was a very poor sentence and might not have meant exactly what I thought it did.
"very very pleased in my hear"?! In my hear?! Does that mean anything? How "we" handled it? We who? We the paid ********** staff or we including the ********** cronies who blasted and fought the original poster since page 1 and tried to censor the OP by getting the thread locked?
Either way, django1 summed it up very well:
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I know that Mark calls a few of these supporter friends and I think he should have called them off: "qui ne dit mot consent". That translates to " he who says nothing consents"... This type of thing takes the shine off AV123 for me...
Somehow, that seemed to slip into a floor's crack, but MLS did say afterwards when he replied to another post, that he was ashamed and embarrassed from what some of his 'friends' wrote and that everyone should take a step back, including him. Why do you think that is?
Maybe because...
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Originally Posted by
Grandarf 
the last 4 pages (were 4 pages) of inanity posted in a few hours by very active ********** proponents who continued to attack or tried to defend their idiotic accusations of the original poster being a troll, liar, and I don't know what else.. (Nuance is still asking whether he's a real customer or not

) Worst, they're even trying to get the thread locked because they don't think that it's acceptable to voice a negative opinion/experience on this particular company. How? By posting a constant stream of idiotic content so that the moderators locks his thread and so in effect
censor the original poster.
I guess most of the time calling upon the hordes to **** pile someone works to his advantage, and he's probably laughing under his hat when it happens, but this time, it backfired. The attack dawgs unleashed themselves on the original poster, and when he's been discredited (favorite weapon of MLS & friends); called a hoax, liar, troll, etc. Then, oh, turns out he was telling the truth and felt the ********** wrath on himself for no good reason at all, like it happens so many times with other posters...
As I said, this thread is a very good example of why I don't like this company. The fanboys are part of the reason, the urging of the CEO & other ********** employees or people linked with ********** (which there probably was more than a few in this thread...), are all part of the reason. I don't know, if the president of the company was above this kind of thing (which he should damn well be) and showed disagreement with it, it would be something, but no, it's the the exact opposite; I've seen him behave himself as badly as the some of his worst trolls... Which I find really pathetic...
So no, the edit was not to save face, only to admit that what I had read into his comments might not have been 100% accurate. So I hope I have brought you satisfaction by replying to your post and accusations. If you wish me to shed more light on anything, I will oblige, but since the original poster's issues were resolved, I don't see much point.