Originally Posted by tqlla
1) I bought both HD-DVD and Blu ray. i never had any prejudice against jumping ship, if I thought BD was going to fail.
Although you do not seem to believe me, it is not prejudice that has kept me from buying Blu-ray yet.
2) It is irrational to state that you bought a 1080i HD-DVD player for $290. Then turn around and say... you cant see the value in the PS3. Which plays more movies in HD, than HD-DVD.... and will have new releases in HD. Which HD-DVD wont have. Heck, you cant even buy a disc at the local best buy anymore.
The ability to play new HD movies, Wifi, built in hard drive, Media Server, photo viewer, internet access.... those... you cant see the value in. But the 1080i HD-A2 player for $290was packed with value?
Packed with value? No. Appropriate value to fulfill a need/curiosity about HD optical media? Yes. And obviously, I'm not advocating getting in to HD DVD as a value right now. Since I've explored the HD DVD path, I'm more clear about what I am looking for with Blu-ray. As for the other features of the PS3, I have WiFi Apple TV for media streaming and photo viewing and WiFi Wii for internet access and gaming for the family. I don't need the other PS3 features, and as a Mac only household, some of PS3's features are limited.
It is irrational to say that I'd prefer a dedicated player to a PS3 as my Blu-ray player? I just don't see it that way. Times and thoughts change. Purchasing the HD DVD player filled the need to own HD optical for a time. I'll be fine with getting a Blu-ray player when I see sustainable value in it.
3) Does the HD-A2 decode DTS master? No. So why are you holding that against the PS3?
Your terminology of "holding that against" PS3 makes it seem so emotional. The reality is that I did not fully understand all the advanced codecs when I purchased the A2. During my ownership of the unit, I have only had one disc from which I could not access advanced audio codecs. With Blu-ray, there are many Fox titles that fall into that category.
If HD DVD had succeeded, I would not have purchased another player that did not access DTS HD codecs, so why would I consider it with Blu-ray?
4) I have 2 2.0 profile Blu rays players. One, I bought over a year ago.
Why the need to evangelize for Blu-ray and PS3? If you're paying attention to what I'm writing, you will see that I am not uninformed and that I fully understand what you are saying. With the options available to me right now and with what will evolve in the next 6 months, one way or the other, Blu-ray is not a great value to me at this time.
Again, these prognostications by industry "experts" are worth absolutely nothing. There is a discussion to be had here about Blu-ray's timing and strategies for expanding their market in light of current and upcoming competition. Trying to persuade everyone that Blu has arrived and should be had by all, mainly through the PS3, is not adding anything to the discussion.