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post #241 of 1004
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Originally Posted by cheroo View Post

hi - has anyone checked if the 863 can matrix a 5.1 bitstreamed source to 7.1?

Sorry I am not 100% sure what "matrix" means. I assume take a 5.1 channel and output to a 7.1 speaker setup. The 861 will output 5.1 to 7 speakers, I have my DVD playing sound through HDMI in Dolby Digital with PLII turned on. Does that help??
post #242 of 1004
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Originally Posted by einhorn View Post

For me, its more than just the menu thats blurred. Its the picture of source material that is being sent through. In other words, if the on-screen menu had a quirk, I could live with it...but as it is, the video isn't watchable unless set to passthrough.

I've tried different cables, different hdmi inputs on my tv...

Either there's a MAJOR problem with the video upscalling on these units, or a Quality issue since we both seem to have the same problem.

What type of source are you trying to upscale. I seems it does not handle composite or s-video upconversion very well. I tried component with my PS2 and it seemed sharper than not converting. I tried Guitar Hero 3, with progressive on and off in the game menu. Def looks sharper with progressive on, but with it off still looks better upscaled than not.

Also the OSD seems to be affected by the input source as well. When I set the upscale for my s-video connection the OSB shakes and blurs, when I tried with component is was far less. Is it just me??
post #243 of 1004
hi just wanna know if anybody is using long span hdmi cables to their tv/projector without any problems(eg. 10m/30 feet).thanks in advance.
post #244 of 1004
I'm not using that length, but as you may already know 10 meters is about the limit for non-amplified HDMI cable to pass Category 2 certification. The only passive HDMI cable I've seen advertised as Category 2 certified at 10 meters is from BetterCables: http://www.bettercables.com/index.as...ATS&Category=3.

If you can get your run length down to 25 feet, much more reasonably priced cables from MonoPrice:
http://www.monoprice.com/products/su...02&cp_id=10240
and BlueJeansCables:
http://www.bluejeanscable.com/store/...bles/index.htm
are Category 2 certified.
post #245 of 1004
thanks.
post #246 of 1004
I have a 35 foot cable from monoprice. It is a dvi to hdmi. I have used it to run from HTPC to projector and now I am using it to run from HTPC to my HDMI input monitor, works great in both cases. Just an FYI........Brian
post #247 of 1004
thanks
post #248 of 1004
I am looking a purchasing the 863 in the next couple of days and was wondering the the 863 will allow two difference devices to be connected to the same source.

I am wanting to connect my PS2 via component and coax audio and also my Xbox 360 via hdmi to the say the VCR source and then depending on which device is turned on to automatically select the require input.

I have also many of the local HIFI shops and no one was could answer the questions. If anyone with the 863 has tried it or can try it for me I would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers
Andrew
post #249 of 1004
I'm using a 35 ft HDMI with no problems. Get it from Monoprice. Great cable and great price.
post #250 of 1004
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Originally Posted by AStephen View Post

I am looking a purchasing the 863 in the next couple of days and was wondering the the 863 will allow two difference devices to be connected to the same source.

I am wanting to connect my PS2 via component and coax audio and also my Xbox 360 via hdmi to the say the VCR source and then depending on which device is turned on to automatically select the require input.

I have also many of the local HIFI shops and no one was could answer the questions. If anyone with the 863 has tried it or can try it for me I would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers
Andrew

I don't have an HDMI cable to try out your scenario, but it may not even be necessary with the RX-V863. The receiver has five video inputs: DVD, DTV/CBL, DVR, VCR, and V-AUX, which you can rename to anything you want. In addition it has flexible I/O assignment, so that you can assign the three component video inputs, the three rear optical audio inputs, the two coaxial inputs, and the three HDMI inputs to any components you want. So unless you have six video components to attach (or five and you don't want to use the V-AUX in front), you should be fine with the RX-V863 without having to double up on your PS2 and Xbox 360.
post #251 of 1004
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Originally Posted by AStephen View Post

I am looking a purchasing the 863 in the next couple of days and was wondering the the 863 will allow two difference devices to be connected to the same source.

I am wanting to connect my PS2 via component and coax audio and also my Xbox 360 via hdmi to the say the VCR source and then depending on which device is turned on to automatically select the require input.

I have also many of the local HIFI shops and no one was could answer the questions. If anyone with the 863 has tried it or can try it for me I would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers
Andrew

I have the 861 and YES it does automatically choose the source in order of HDMI, Component, S-Vid then Composite, or something to that affect, and same goes for audio. I have my DVD player plugged into "DVD" via HDMI (with audio) and the Xbox 360 hooked up to "DVD" via component and digital audio.
Same with my DTV - S-Vid to the "DTV" input and analog sound, but also my Xbox 1 in the "DTV" input via component and digital sound. It auto tunes the source in the order described above.

ALSO you can reassign which vid inputs go with with digital sound inputs. Very versitile unit.

Hope that was clear...
post #252 of 1004
I got mine brand new tonight for $425, is that a good deal?




http://www.purplewave.com/cgi-bin/mn...purple130/8262



I don't have my speakers yet (SVSounds) or my projector (Panny AE2000U) but when I had a chance to get this AVR I had to jump on it.
post #253 of 1004
Hi 863 owners,

I currently have a RX-V659, which I like a lot, but it doesn't have HDMI inputs, so I'm using an external switch. I get TrueHD from my HD-DVD player, but can't get lossless audio from my PS3. So I'm considering upgrading to a RX-V863 or 663.

However, I heard that the 663 doesn't sound as good as the 659, so I'm wondering if anyone can comment on 863 vs 663 SQ-wise or 863 vs 659 (SQ-wise also).

I can get the 663 for ~$300 and the $863 for ~$500.

Lastly, how do you feel about purchasing from a well-reviewed, but not Yahama-factory authorized, dealer. I believe Yahama won't service the warranty from non-authorized, right?

Thanks in advance!
post #254 of 1004
Well you may remember that earlier I posted that I had connected this receiver to my Bose Accoustamass speaker system and wasn't happy. Of course, I never had been happy with the Bose system for 10 years. Only had them due to WAF, but W is gone now.

Today I swapped them out for a new Klipsch Quintet III system with the Sub-RW-10d (575 watt, 260 RMS). Wow! What a difference. For the first time it sounded like a roomfull of sound instead of room of 5 speakers. I stuck in my Rudy DVD and just loved the music and crowd noise during the games. Cried even more at the end this time.

BTW, I had posted earlier that I couldn't get the receiver to upconvert 480p from Component out to HDMI. Well, while hooking everything back up I found the problem. The Green component cable wasn't pushed all the way in. I would have thought that that would only produce distorted colors, but instead it produced no video at all.

All is fine now. Love it.

Now I just have to play with all the scenes and settings.
post #255 of 1004
I just purchased this unit yesterday and set everything up. I'm having one problem that I'm hoping I can get a solution here. I looked all through the manual and did a search here, but can't find an answer. I am connecting 4 devices. Never mind. I was plugged into VCR (Out) instead of VCR (In). Opps
post #256 of 1004
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Originally Posted by JRM01 View Post

Well you may remember that earlier I posted that I had connected this receiver to my Bose Accoustamass speaker system and wasn't happy. Of course, I never had been happy with the Bose system for 10 years. Only had them due to WAF, but W is gone now.

Today I swapped them out for a new Klipsch Quintet III system with the Sub-RW-10d (575 watt, 260 RMS). Wow! What a difference. For the first time it sounded like a roomfull of sound instead of room of 5 speakers. I stuck in my Rudy DVD and just loved the music and crowd noise during the games. Cried even more at the end this time.

BTW, I had posted earlier that I couldn't get the receiver to upconvert 480p from Component out to HDMI. Well, while hooking everything back up I found the problem. The Green component cable wasn't pushed all the way in. I would have thought that that would only produce distorted colors, but instead it produced no video at all.

All is fine now. Love it.

Now I just have to play with all the scenes and settings.

Good to hear the problem is solved. Anyway, here's the conversion matrix diagram on Yamaha's Japanese website which is much clearer.

post #257 of 1004
Great chart. My Japanese isn't too good. Any idea what the Legend says for each line?

I'm guessing that Solid Purple is "Pass Through", Solid Red is "De-interlace", Solid Green is "Upscale and de-interlace", but what is the Dotted Black supposed to be.

Also, what do the boxes on the left represent?

Interesting that 720p and 1080i are pass through only.
post #258 of 1004
Stll trying out all the settings with this receiver and found a strange situation.

When I switch to Tuner to hear the radio it starts up OK, plays 4 seconds of audio, then jumps back to the beginning repeating that 4 seconds. From there on all is fine. Anyone else notice this?
post #259 of 1004
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Originally Posted by JRM01 View Post

Great chart. My Japanese isn't too good. Any idea what the Legend says for each line?

I'm guessing that Solid Purple is "Pass Through", Solid Red is "De-interlace", Solid Green is "Upscale and de-interlace", but what is the Dotted Black supposed to be.

Also, what do the boxes on the left represent?

Interesting that 720p and 1080i are pass through only.

The purple box is digital input and the blue box is analog input. For my limited Japanese katakana vocab, I think the Solid Purple means "repeat" and the dotted Black is "Straight".
post #260 of 1004
Okay, I've got the component and s-video signals upscaling (1080p) through the HDMI ports. However, the composite just won't work. I can match up the audio and get audio, but the video stays blank. I've tried each port available. The cables work fine when connected direct to the TV.

What I'm trying to connect are some retro game consoles and I'm getting nowhere. The other consoles, those with s-video, are looking great. The PS2, Wii, and Xbox 1 are all upscaling fine over component.

Any suggestions for the composite port?
post #261 of 1004
Update on the above post.

S-video works fine with one connection. All my s-video items are hooked to a switch box. The game system hooked up to the first port works fine. The others give audio, but no video when I switch to them. When I go into the menu and look at the signal information, it's picking it up. Everything it right. It's acknowledging that I have a s-video/composite signal and that it should be upscaling it. Nothing is actually on screen though.
post #262 of 1004
As I mentioned, I replaced my Bose Accoustimass system with a Kilpsch speaker system and now am a happy camper.

However, I gave the Bose system to my son who is trying to use it with his new Yamaha Receiver and doesn't like the lack of strong bass sound.

Is there a way to add a subwoofer to the Bose setup? If so, how would you setup this receiver with such a system? Speaker size, crossover, etc.? How do you think it would sound?
post #263 of 1004
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Originally Posted by JRM01 View Post


Interesting that 720p and 1080i are pass through only.

HD broadcasts are 720p right? I have a 1080p display, so would I notice much of an improvement if the AVR did upscale to 1080p?
post #264 of 1004
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Originally Posted by Slew View Post

HD broadcasts are 720p right? I have a 1080p display, so would I notice much of an improvement if the AVR did upscale to 1080p?

The majority of HD broadcasts are 1080i. However, some are 720p, including ABC, ESPN and (I think) FOX.

Your TV will de-interlace the 1080i to 1080p and will upscale the 720p to 1080p.

There would only be an improvement if the Receiver did a better job at this than the TV.
post #265 of 1004
Just hooked up the V863 tonight and I am having one problem.....I have 3 HDMI devices hooked up to the 863(Panny BD10k under DVD, HR20-700 under DTV and Tivo under DVR) then one out to a Mits 63833. I cannot get video from panny BD. It works fine directly to the TV, but not through the HDMi DVD input on the 863......Any suggestions?????
thanks!
Bryan
post #266 of 1004
OK...I don't think the issue is with the recevier as I hooked up my HR20 to that input and it works fine....The only thing I can think of now is a compatability issue with the Panny BD-10A and the 863....Has anyone come accross this?
post #267 of 1004
Hello,

Newbie looking for some insight.

I have been reading in earlier posts that the 863 does not pass BTB and WTW. Is that the same in the HDMI pass through mode or only in the upconversion mode. The reason I ask is that I use the PS3 as a gaming as well as a BD player. Most games are encoded in 0-255 range if I am not mistaken. This would be a problem if the 863 clipped the range in HDMI passthrough mode.

Pls advise. Thanks
post #268 of 1004
From discussions elsewhere, signals coming in on the HDMI inputs are clipped.
post #269 of 1004
I just recently bought my RX-V863 and have decided to set up the remote control with codes to manage DVD, TV, etc.

This is probably a stupid question but how do I set up the remote to control the TV? I'm using a Sony 52 XBR4. It's supposed to be covered in pages 102-3 of the manual but the first question is there are no codes listed in the Yamaha A/V manual for any TVs.

Also does anyone have a code for the Motorola DCH3200? I've googled and seen others ask for this code but haven't found any answers. Thanks.
post #270 of 1004
[quote=Surferman;14180735].. west coast?? if so did you get any of that swell 2 weeks ago?
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