Question for someone with a Nintendo Wii and Onkyo 805!

Hola folks,
After research regarding upscaling and the 805 vs a nintendo wii.. it seems that its worthless due to the aspect ratio refusing to stay widescreen. Means one of the intrigueing points of me buying the receiver is now next to worthless.
That aside, I'm having trouble getting audio to play from my television from the wii. I have everything ran into the receiver via hdmi that can be, and have no problems with any of it. The wii however is ran in via component, and the video.. albeit cant be upscaled properly, does display in its native reso on the tv. The audio on the other hand, I can not get to play on the tv. It has come to my attention that in order to u se the tv's speakers to play the audio, the cable will need to be hooked up directly to the tv. Although dissapointing, this is fine. Problem I'm now having is I'm unsure of where to put "in" the L/R on the receiver. I would hate to have to bypass the receiver all together for the wii, that would defeat the purpose but for now with no speakers, I would like to use it as a switch of sorts and still have audio via tv speakers. Anyone who is familair with the nintendo wii knows that nintendo's components are bound together by hard plastic tehrefore running them to different areas are impossible. The end on the nintendo side is also a custom plug so no using universal type cables either.

I apologize if this sounds jumbled.. but if someone can help me solve this or give me my options I would be grateful.

Thank you!

thanks for the replies guys!
Toker, if I set my TV to full, will that apply to all sources or just the source I have the wii setup through? I'm asking b ecause I wouldnt want it to stretch/distort any of my other sources that are put in via hdmi and untouched.
That said, will it actually distort the wii image? if so, am I better off just leaving it setup at 480p?
Now that I have asked and gotten responses, It brought up a few new questions, so I apologize =(
The barrel connector and extra RCA route; what source will I need my tv set as in order to get sound if I go that route? The components will be put into the receiver, and it will be output via hdmi and run alongside my ps3 and 360 on the tv via 1 hdmi using the receiver as the switcher. Therefore how will I actually get the wii's sound?

Last but not least, after getting most of this initially hooked up and sorted, it may be in my head... but I'm curiuos if the onkyo alters the image it puts out in any way. What I mean is - I calibrated my television through all sources pre receiver with AVIA. Now when I opened the so called Hidden menu on the onkyo it gives me all the same visual adjustements my television has such as Hue, contrast etc. If those arent touched, is my image the same as when I calibrated it? Or do those need to be adjusted as well?

Oh, one more question! Same menu there is a setting for 8bit and 24bit with a 601 and 656 or something of that nature next to it. Naturally 24 bit would be better? What does that refer to? I apologize I havent had a recever before, and am eager to learn what I can!!

Thanks guys!!

eep, sorry I thought I mentioned that but I must have forgot to. I'm just using the receiver as a switcher of sorts, and what I was hoping to be an upscaler for the wii. This is due to the fact that im a brokeass and I can only afford my surround sound peice by peice. Receiver was peice #1 so yes, I'm using the tv's speakers for now lol.. well as you can see by my thread, Im "trying" to anyhow!

yea that was actually the first thing I checked =P It is set for 480p (thats what I viewed it as prior) and 16:9 on my 42" lcd. The 805 is changing it somehow. As for sound, I cant even guess hence this thread =)
Shameless bump!

lol no problem fireman. Well lets put it this way. My Tv is set as "wide" which is its version of 16:9, that has never changed. The Wii is set as 16:9 as well, when I first bought it I realized I had to change that in the options for obvious reasons =) Pre Onkyo 805 (ie 2 weeks ago) All 3 sources (wii/xbox360/ps3) were all hooked up via component/hdmi/hdmi and stretched/fit accordingly. Now, all 3 hooked up via the same method except through the receiver and out a single hdmi, only the last 2 fit properly if upscaling is enabled via the hidden menu. It is beginning to seem to me, The upscaling cannot be used on the wii which is very unfortunate. At the same time, I cannot seem to figure my options on getting sound out of the television speakers for it either lol. Shame on nintendo!!

my tv is a vizio 42" lcd, is only 720p/1080i but should be able to do the upscale and put it off in widescreen, not sure if im missing a setting somewhere or what. I googled it and apparently im not the only one witht he issue, however If you have a wii via component through hdmi and its upscaling properly then maybe its firmware related? Is yours in component out hdmi or in comp and out comp? Hmmm

tv is the vw here http://www.vizio.com/products/detail.aspx?pid=27. I havent tried adjusting it via the tv, I didnt have to before so I shouldnt have to now. If i do it will just be stretching the image or contorting/zooming it. Nonetheless I might as well give it a go. And yes I believe the issue was listed as being with the 805 specifically. I'll have to link ya a thread or two if your curiuos a bit later. about to hit the hay for the evening! Thanks for the well wishing! Worst case ill be able to atleast solve the audio issue once I have some surround sound speakers =P

Cerebrex do you have the upscaling enabled via the hidden menu? and with your audio running to aux1 does it output via hdmi to the televisions speakers or are you using surround speakers?

Thanks!

from Onkyo tech support.

My question
Comments: Dear CSR, I purchased an onkyo 805 receiver recently and one of the contributing factors to my purchase was the component to HDMI out feature, as well as the ability to upscale. I was greatly disappointed to find out, that while the component to HDMI out seemed to be working for me, the upscaling would not. Atleast not properly. I'm emailing in hopes that someone can fix this, reproduce it, sort it out for me, something. I am using a nintendo wii, which can only natively put out a 480p signal via component. I have connected it to the component in on the Onkyo receiver, and it is put out via HDMI along with everything else. I use a 720p/1080i LCD tv, which has no problem displaying anything else at those resolutions, and had no trouble with the Wii at 480p with a 16:9 aspect ratio as long as it was set as such in the wii's settings. Upon starting it all up for the first time, everything worked fine, the wii displayed at 480p with a 16:9 aspect ratio. I couldnt wait to access the so called hidden menu, to force upscaling to 720p and make my nintendo wii look spectacular! Upon doing so, my aspect ratio was changed to 4:3. There lies my problem. So far, nothing within my own knowledge, that I can do.... will change it to 16:9 other than turning the upscaling off. Was your receiver designed to only upscale to standard def aspect ratios? This wouldnt make sense since most if not all hdtv's are widescreen resolution. Do I perhaps have a faulty receiver? Please advise as this is very important to me! Thank you

their response: Thank You for contacting Onkyo USA Product Support.

Mr. Lepp,

The TX-SR805 will only do the video upconvert. The TX-SR875 and TX-NR905 will do the both the upconvert and the upscaling.

Thank you,

Eric F.

dont thread jack! but. I cant comment if you dont plan on doing component in to hdmi out. Id assume there is component out back there that you could run to your Television. I just followed the manual and adjusted the settings on the receiver to get everything working (aside from upscaling)

back on topic, Does anyone who knows the inner workings.. know if the black bar/non upscale that they advertise as upscaling.. is in fact fixable via firmware? or if it is a hardware limitation?

ty!

no its not what i want. I want it touched, I want it upconverted, I want to force my 480p wii to run at 720p which I can do and it looks MUUUUUUCH better, unfortunately I can only do it with black bars surrounding it =(

as for scaling.. Im still at a loss of why it doesnt work correctly.

and riverwolf, its evident it doesnt support it, judging by the square of beautifulness on my screen with the rectangles of black ugliness around it =) Im asking if it is a hardware limitation or software/firmware.

I stepped up from the 605 a few hundred dollars to the 805 just for the upconversion.. literally that was my reason for buying. Boy did I get kicked in the balls. Way to cut a similar hand in hand type feature in half to force people to go another step up. The price difference in the 805 and 875 (when it starts scaling i think) is absurd for me to even think about paying it just for the wii. Live and learn, unless anyone's looking for a new 805 =P