Axoim M80's or Aperion 6T's?

I like the Aperions better.

I can't speak concerning the 6t's, but I auditioned the 5t's and the Axiom m80's.
The Axioms were much better than the Aperions to these ears.

If they haven't been released how do you know they sound close the 633s? I have seen a few postings where you could guess they would sound the same since they use the same components.

Everyone's ears are different, it's one of those things you have to try to audition to see if you like them.

I do own the Axioms and I think they sound great, FWIW.

I haven't compared the towers, but I did have one of the first pairs or 5B's which I compared to Axiom M2's. I felt the Aperions had a better balance overall. But both were excellent speakers and it comes down to personal taste. I like my Monitor Audio BR2's over both.

Interesting


Probably put in a cheaper tweeter AND raised the price. Should have no effect on the sound.

Kinda sounds like the Chewbacca defense to me.

If it doesn't make sense, you must acquit!

Then why not save some dough and buy the 633T which are in stock? That way you won't pay for the new tweeter and new model which is the same as the old model except for the higher price.

I thought that might be the problem. Good luck.

I never heard the old Aperion line so not sure how the sound compares with the new line. I'd imagine they're very close.

I am very interested in this comparison as well as I am looking at both Aperion and Axiom speakers for my HT.

I have heard that both companies produce excellent speakers but the where Axiom falls a little behind is their center speaker. I have no first hand knowledge about this just what I have read from some on this forum.

Now on to those who have had the opportunity to listen to both or at least the Axioms compared with the older 633's.

looking forward to user impressions.

Regards,

RTROSE

I have both Axiom centers and I hear no depreciable SQ when off axis as is the usual complaint. I have measured the VP100 to be 2db less and the 150 1 db less around 20-25deg off axis. But so far as a sound quality problem, I just don't hear it, they sound as good off axis compared to directly in front, only a touch quieter.

My experience was very different than yours as was that of the guys who reviewed the Axiom setup for Sound and Vision. Nousaine said:


The complete test results can be found here:

http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/spe...er-system.html

Al Griffin had this to say:


His complete comments can be found here:

http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/spe...nce-page3.html

I always wondered if the less crisp they speak of, is just the fact they are less loud off axis, much the same way during a speaker comparison the louder speaker is always deemed to sound better.

Like I said, for me, I just don't hear the SQ difference, but I do notice the loss of db.

Actually they measured some fairly severe suck outs (frequency response anomalies). It's less loud because in the critical midrange the response drops decreasing dialogue intelligibility. The goal is to have the same (or similar sound) at all listening positions (both frequency and sound intensity wise). The loss in db you're hearing is isolated to certain critical frequencies.

I guess the other thing to consider is just how many of us actually sit more than 20 deg off from center in their HT's. I have only one seat that is that far out and the farther away you get the sweep is that much wider to the sides, so for longer rooms the off axis of any speaker doesn't matter much.

The ideal is to run the same speaker at all 3 positions up front but most of us are not able to.

Aside from the off axis issue of the center channel, I would also consider the low end drop off of 110hz at -4dB....which seems like it would require a higher crossover than 80hz.

I would make sure my AVR or pre/pro could set different crossovers for the mains, center, and surrounds.

Just wanted to chime in real quick on the new tweeter debate.

I was able to do a side by side comparison with the old 532 and the new 5B for two weeks in my home.

The new tweeter is a very nice upgrade. Whe the 532's are pushed a bit you can hear some mild distortion coming from the tweeter. Some people may refer to this as harshness, brightness,roughness, etc. The new tweeter smoothes that right out. You can push it hard without a trace of any of previously mentioned adjectives.

In my opinion the new tweeter is more open and extends further into the room creating a more enveloping soundstage.

The new drivers are also improved. Fiberglass woven woofers provide faster response than both the old 5 series poly woofers and the old 6 series carbon woofers. The new 5 series crossover has also been adjusted so that the new 5B's get a bit more bass than the old 532's

So in my opinion they did not just slap a cheaper tweeter on and raise prices. From what I have heard from side by side comparisons the price increase from the 5B and 532 was justified. the new 5B is just a more open speaker, clearer dialouge, vocals and smoother tweeter and it doesn't get muddied when pushed hard. However, I have not compared the 633T's and 6T's so cannot say that the price increase was justified between those two products. However they did peform similar upgrades in the new 6 series line. Same drivers (larger of course), tweeters and a crossover that is configured slightly different then the 5series. So I'm thinking you will notice similar performance gains in the new 6 series.

This thread is almost a year old. Was wondering if anyone had any info to ad.

I remember reading a review of these 2 together where the wife liked the Aperions better and the husband sent the Axioms back. I can't find where I read that though.

I think the Aperions are the more highly regarded speaker.

Not much to add but the aperion thread has like 4000 posts when the axiom thread has like 400. Alot more info available about aperion which is going to sway me to their product.

Axiom has their own forum where most owners hang out. It is a very busy forum.

As with the Aperion forum....but its obvious that the Aperions are highly regarded.

frenchmon

Aperion's forum is pretty slow compared to Axiom's, mind you we tend to hijack an awful lot of threads.