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Official Vizio VO42LF Thread

post #1 of 137
Thread Starter 
So hopefully the release is around the corner. I'm confident this will be my new HD TV in April/May and I wanted to start the discussion. Reviews of the 47 inch model have been great and, in my opinion, Vizio is doing a great job this year competing on price while adding the features on higher end sets.

Here are the details:

VO42LF $1,299.99 April '08

From Engadget.com:

"Unlike most of the Vizio line, the Evolution series has a flat black finish and includes a 6-foot HDMI cable and the sought after "Deluxe Size Cleaning Cloth." The 42-inch, 47-inch and 52-inch models have four HDMI inputs on the back -- the rest of the line has two -- and are 1080p. The 32-inch and 37-inch are 720p, and curiously the 22-inch has a resolution of 1680x1050, which probably makes it a good candidate to pull double duty as a computer display. The prices and availability varies, but the entire line will be available at a warehouse near you in 2008."
post #2 of 137
I am intrigued as well about the rest of the sets coming after the 47, I'm assuming they will perform just as well. I am interested in the 32 or 37 for my room, so please keep me updated on when they will be released. Thank you =D.
post #3 of 137
Which retailers are scheduled to sell this model?
post #4 of 137
Thread Starter 
This is supposed to be in the warehouse stores.

It's supposed to be released this month, but I see no sign of it. The 32 inch model looks to be a month behind (coming out this month instead of last); I hope the same is not true for the 42 inch. Anyone have any information?
post #5 of 137
When are they expecting to release the VO-52?
Bill
post #6 of 137
It is now up on the Vizio web page for 1099.99 MSRP. But not on the Costco web site yet. I am going to check the W.Plano and Lewisville Texas Costco stores tomorrow.
post #7 of 137
I keep posting on this thread:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...ighlight=vizio
thinking this is the only thread on VO42L.

Anyway I posted this on the other thread.
Went by Costco today and the guy there told me the TV is in their system.
It will be but it doesn't say when they will get them.
Will be soon though.
They are trying to clear out the VS42LF before getting the VO in.

BTW, have you seen the MSRP on their new 42" plasma ?? $799.
Thats dirt cheap and a nice looking TV too.
post #8 of 137
New styling and updates sounds nice. They were just putting them up so I did not see them on. It appears to be a winner and the one I will finally put my hard earned cash down for....Oh, I live in Western New York about 45 miles west of Buffalo and unfortunately I do not have a Costco nearby...There are a couple Sam's Club and B.J.s that I will check to see first.

Also, if anyone knows...is there any advantage for us consumers to buy from Sam's vs. B.J.s?? Does one offer us a better warranty like Costco apparently does?

Thanks in advance,

N.Y.JOEY
post #9 of 137
according to the vizio web site, sam's club is NOT carrying this model, only Costco is. i can't understand why sam's would carry the VO47LF but not the VO42LF.

the one at walmart is the VW42LF, not the VO42LF.
post #10 of 137
I've been lurking here for research for a while, but registered just to share my disappointment with my purchase of this television.

My complaint is primarily with their tech support. A week and a half ago, before I purchased the VO42L, I read the manual online to see what I was getting. Because the manual wasn't 100% explicit about the Optical Out feature (it said how to plug it in, and that it transmitted digital sound from all sources, but not much detail), I called them to ask a simple question: does the VO42L TV's Optical Out output 5.1 Dolby Digital from devices plugged in via all of the 4 HDMI ports? The tech put me on hold to check. She came back and said unequivocally yes. Great, that'll cut down on the complexity of my home theater cabling/switching significantly. I bought the TV at CostCo on Friday the 6th.

Got it home and up two flights of stairs. Hooked up the HDMI cable to my cable box, put it on an HD station. Hooked Optical Out via an optical cable to the Optical In on my receiver. I got audio, but the Dolby Digital light stayed off. I checked the settings on the TV, switched everything so it sure looked right. Nothing. Changed channels. Nothing. Switched to my digital coax that was still plugged in from the cable to my received, voila, 5.1 DD. Back to Optical, nothing. I switched the HDMI cable to my Xbox 360, just to make sure it wasn't the cable box. No 5.1 DD.

Over the next week, I spoke to two more tech support reps at different levels. They assured me as the first one had that HDMI inputs should pass through 5.1 DD to the optical out, and that something must be broken. They set a tech repair appointment for Friday from 9-11AM.

Friday I wait and wait and wait, skipping things I had to do because I was afraid to leave. At 11:30, I call. No answer, leave a message. Two hours later, I call again, find out the rep who'd set up the appointment was out that day... and that my appointment was actually scheduled for Saturday. I'd repeated "Friday" on the phone in front of my wife, and written it down, and I knew we had errands to run Saturday morning, so I know that I was told Friday. Frustrating, but you know... it happens. I just want my TV to work.

Today, they came on time (hooray), swapped out the audio board. It still didn't work. They assured me it should. I called Vizio support AGAIN. Spoke to someone AGAIN who AGAIN assured me it should work. They started setting up a replacement. Before waiting yet another week, I insisted I speak to someone who was actually intimately familiar with the specific model of TV, not just someone who can read the manual (I can do that!). I get escalated to level 3 support.

Level 3 guy almost immediately says only the cable DTV/TV input outputs 5.1 DD through the optical. "But... five other people, and the manual, told me the opposite!" He assured me that he was correct, and to support the claim, read me the manual. Of course, it didn't say that at all, but he said he knew he was right. I asked for confirmation from someone else. Hold, transfer. New guy is in Level 3, but clearly completely unfamiliar with the television or what 5.1 is. I told him all I want is confirmation that HDMI inputs WILL or WON'T transmit 5.1 DD through the optical out. He puts me on hold to check with "a game expert and a 5.1 expert" (that's what I asked to speak with in the FIRST place), and when he came back, told me it wouldn't. I'm furious at this point, and asked him why the manual and the first 5 people told me the opposite. He asked if I'd checked with CostCo before buying the TV! "No, I checked with YOUR TECH SUPPORT before buying the TV!" He checked something and said "The V052 (or something, I know it was a 52) outputs 5.1 from all inputs!" "Great, I'll be happy to accept an exchange. Can you set that up?" Not that I expect them to, but he says I should check with "Circuit City" about that. Of course at that point there's nothing he can do--if the TV doesn't do that, it doesn't do that, and I told him I'm returning it and not considering VIZIO televisions in the future because of the horrible support.

So bottom line: I have a TV that doesn't work the way the manual says it does (check page 10 and page 27 in the online manual, show me one place where it says "optical out only outputs 5.1 DD from the DTV/TV input"). I've wasted a good 10 hours of my time on the phone and waiting for a tech (fortunately, I work at home, but I do have better things to do!). VIZIO support has proven that they don't know their products, which to me, is the greatest sin a tech support department can commit. And now I have to box this TV up, drag it down stairs again, take it back to CostCo... and start researching and shopping all over again.

I'm so very, very frustrated.
post #11 of 137
Wrote this in the other thread:

Returned the VO47L for the VO42L on Saturday because the size of the screen works better for our room. First impressions, using the VO47L settings from brazzle/cnet, are the picture quality of OTA HD seems to be much better, with better black response. Colors aren't quite right, but I'll be using a DVE disc to fix that and I'll post up the calibrations when done. With a 1080P source (PS3) connected via HDMI, playing Ratatouille, I give the edge, on PQ, to the 42 vs. the 47. Another thing that is better is off angle viewing (which is horrendous with the VO47L). So, so far so good. I will be evaluating it a little more over the next few days and put up some secondary impressions.
post #12 of 137
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Originally Posted by MisterFace View Post

VIZIO support has proven that they don't know their products, which to me, is the greatest sin a tech support department can commit. And now I have to box this TV up, drag it down stairs again, take it back to CostCo... and start researching and shopping all over again.

I'm so very, very frustrated.

From a person who's owned a few flat panel HDTVs, here's what I can say: "Welcome to tech support, in general." You'll find that a majority of companies, including within their tech group, do not know much about their product. That being said, your frustration is warranted, but I wouldn't pin this just on VIZIO because, I've had experiences before, where a stuck pixel was called in, and a VIZIO rep came to the house with a replacement TV IN HAND and took the damaged TV with them. The service call was one of the quickest ever. What you're dealing with is an industry-wide problem and for the most part, no matter who you go with, you'll have the same problem. The best support I've ever received, and confirmed by the service center guy I was working with, has been Sony. So, if you're really hard up on it, throw your money into a Sony... you won't be disappointed.
post #13 of 137
I picked one up last week at Costco (VO42LF) and I must say it looks nice, this is not my first Vizio purchase I have the VX37L in the bedroom

I had a Sony KDF-E50A10 50" Rear Projection LCD in the living room and replaced it with the 42" Vizio

I've been using the settings from the VO47LF thread and they seem to get close but I haven't taken the time to do much calibrating

I'm using an HTPC through HDMI @ 1080P and SD looks good

Also useing HD-DVD through HDMI
post #14 of 137
I currently have a VS42LF, and I like the styling of the VO42LF much more, and the 4xHDMI inputs looks to be a real good feature (No more HDMI switch needed!)
I'll be taking my VS42LF back to Costco this weekend for a changeover, gotta love their return policies!

Pat.
post #15 of 137
OK, made the swap last night, and the TV performance wise is essentially identical. I didn't expect anything special though, just wanted the extra HDMI inputs and the narrower (and all black) bottom speaker.
Then....I just saw the press release for the SV420XVT...120hz mmmm....hopefully Costco gets these in for the same price within 90 days, as it will mean a free upgrade for me!
post #16 of 137
Seems like I'm the only one active on this thread, but figured I would post this anyway.
Since switching the TV's over, my logitech harmony remote is unable to directly switch between HDMI inputs as it only seems to know of one command it the database which is essentially HDMI cycle
I did notice that it thought this TV was a LG something or other when I updated the remote software. Don't wanna get off topic, but has anyone dealt with this kind of thing before?
Specific to Vizio would be great, but any other solutions are also appreciated.

I did notice on the VS42LF TV, the remote would ask 2 questions if I hit help when the input was wrong, firstly "Is the TV set to HDMI" then it would ask "Is the TV set to HDMI Input List n" where n was the HDMI input number.
Perhaps the discrete codes for the new remote work in the same way, but are not yet in the Logitech Database??

I'm going to also head over to the logitech forums to see what I can find out.

Cheers,

Pat.
post #17 of 137
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Originally Posted by patdman08 View Post

Seems like I'm the only one active on this thread, but figured I would post this anyway.
Since switching the TV's over, my logitech harmony remote is unable to directly switch between HDMI inputs as it only seems to know of one command it the database which is essentially HDMI cycle
I did notice that it thought this TV was a LG something or other when I updated the remote software. Don't wanna get off topic, but has anyone dealt with this kind of thing before?
Specific to Vizio would be great, but any other solutions are also appreciated.

I did notice on the VS42LF TV, the remote would ask 2 questions if I hit help when the input was wrong, firstly "Is the TV set to HDMI" then it would ask "Is the TV set to HDMI Input List n" where n was the HDMI input number.
Perhaps the discrete codes for the new remote work in the same way, but are not yet in the Logitech Database??

I'm going to also head over to the logitech forums to see what I can find out.

Cheers,

Pat.

You could have the Logitech learn the commands from the Vizio remote. I thought about this possibly being a problem when I read this thread earlier this morning. I love my VS42LF but for 4 HDMI ports and what is essentially a free upgrade I think I'm going to exchange mine this weekend as well. From what I've read elsewhere in this forum the SV420XVT's are supposed to be out in July.
post #18 of 137
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Originally Posted by sucram65 View Post

You could have the Logitech learn the commands from the Vizio remote. I thought about this possibly being a problem when I read this thread earlier this morning. I love my VS42LF but for 4 HDMI ports and what is essentially a free upgrade I think I'm going to exchange mine this weekend as well. From what I've read elsewhere in this forum the SV420XVT's are supposed to be out in July.

I can't wait for the new SV series to come out, I'm hoping that they are still listed @ Costco, because I will definitely upgrade again if that's the case!

As for the remote issue, the remote for the VO42LF is a new design and uses some new codes it seems.
Seperate Power on / off command from VS42LF don't work with VO42LF, but the power toggle works fine anyway, so no big deal.
I've currently got it going through the input menu (so slow ) to change inputs properly, so it works....but I would love the discrete input commands back!
I actually changed the logitech software back to think it was my old TV so I could use the discrete codes for HDMI 1 & 2 (All I currently use), but I can't find them anymore!

Meh, lots of playing around to be done

Pat.
post #19 of 137
Im sure glad i stumbled onto this forum. I have been debating on wheather or not to purchase a Vizio but it seems that every expereince seems to be very subjective. The thing that drwas me to it is the in-home service repair, and ofcourse the price. Although I've seen other brands similar to the VO42LF only baout $100 to 300 more.

i will update the forum on how the purchase turns out to be.
post #20 of 137
I returned my VS42LF and exchanged it for the V042. On the whole I think the picture quality is a little better. Of course, the main reason for my exchange was more HDMI ports.

Here's my initial attempt at calibration. I used the THX Optimizer on one of my DVD's and also have experimented with some of brazzle's settings in the VO47LF thread. I think what I've come up with looks very good at night. I'm hoping I can brighten up the picture a bit for daytime viewing as well. Night scenes are fairly dark during daytime viewing. I emphasized getting black as black as possible.

backlight: 50
brightness: 46
Contrast: 53
Color: 46
Tint: 4
Sharpness: 4

Advanced Video: All off
Color Temperature: (Taken from brazzle's settings)
Red-116, Green-112, Blue-96

I've switched back to the defaults several times but while the picture looks pretty good, the fleshtones were noticeably off. To me they were at least. I've also gone back to brazzle's settings a few times but for this tv they don't seem to give enough contrast. I'm still experimenting. Please try what I've done and post your observations and your own settings. I'm really a newbie at this so any feedback is very useful.

Thanks,

Marcus
post #21 of 137
your welcome. It probably won't be until later on in the year until you'll find some other on line companies to start selling these.

If you do plan on buying an extended warranty from anywhere, then I would still choose costco's because most extended warranty's will run around the same price as the membership. And who know's once you get a membership you may feel compelled to shop their online store more often.

but if you're not in the market for an ext warranty then right now Target will be your best best.
Of course you can always look on EBay or Craiglist for a used or refurbrished one.
post #22 of 137
..Anybody know why all of my posts were deleted on this thread?
post #23 of 137
don't know what did you post
post #24 of 137
I was the one who posted asking for more retailers that sell the VO42L. You were actually one of the people who replied :-).

You replied with "your welcome. It probably won't be until later on in the year until you'll find some other on line companies to start selling these.

If you do plan on buying an extended warranty from anywhere, then I would still choose costco's because most extended warranty's will run around the same price as the membership. And who know's once you get a membership you may feel compelled to shop their online store more often.

but if you're not in the market for an ext warranty then right now Target will be your best best.Of course you can always look on EBay or Craiglist for a used or refurbrished one."
post #25 of 137
I have no idea why they deleted your post, could be they are cracking down on posting of retailers.
post #26 of 137
Here's an update on my calibration settinngs. I used the THX optimizer in the Bourne demo d/l'd from the playstation store. These are the results. I did not think there would be a difference from the THX Optimizer optimizer on a DVD and a file on the PS3 hard drive. I'll have to get hold of a BD disk with the Optimizer on it.

backlight: 30
brightness: 50
contrast: 43
color: 46
tint: 1
sharpness: 3

advanced video: all off
color temperature: normal
red-128, green-128, blue-128
post #27 of 137
Actually, brazzle's settings for the VO47 are really close and somewhat identical to a calibrated VO42. I used the DVE calibration and it was very similar from what I remember. Of course, all of this is really dependent on how dark your room can get, etc. No problems thus far with the panel and I'm supremely satisfied with this having had the VO47, an LG LB5 and Sony KDL-W3000. Best panel so far...
post #28 of 137
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Originally Posted by patdman08 View Post

OK, made the swap last night, and the TV performance wise is essentially identical. I didn't expect anything special though, just wanted the extra HDMI inputs and the narrower (and all black) bottom speaker.
Then....I just saw the press release for the SV420XVT...120hz mmmm....hopefully Costco gets these in for the same price within 90 days, as it will mean a free upgrade for me!

I mean seriously dont you feel bad about doing that stuff? You are one of the reasons costco cut its return policy on TVs down. I understand buying a tv, getting it home and not liking it and then returning it, but doing what you are doing is just messed up.
post #29 of 137
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Originally Posted by 04DarkShadowGT View Post

I mean seriously dont you feel bad about doing that stuff? You are one of the reasons costco cut its return policy on TVs down. I understand buying a tv, getting it home and not liking it and then returning it, but doing what you are doing is just messed up.


Well he'll be out of luck since this will be a Sear's and Circuit City model.
post #30 of 137
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Originally Posted by boswd View Post

Well he'll be out of luck since this will be a Sear's and Circuit City model.

Other threads indicate that once the existing stock of the VO series is depleted that the SV4x0XVT's will appear in Costco's retail stores. We'll see.
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