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post #121 of 5559
Another success on an Onkyo 875 v1.04 (purchased in Mar08).

Updated via a Samsung BD-P1200 via S/PDIF in PCM mode. Burned the audio CD in WinXP via Sonic RecordNow Plus.

After 3rd DSP update my receiver display was stuck at "S/PDIF Update...". After 10 mins I power cycled via the power button and it came up just fine. Had to redo all of my settings.
post #122 of 5559
Updated the DSP of my Onkyo 875 v1.04 via Oppo 980H set to output raw. Burned fujifilm cd-r with nero express on XP machine. Stuck after 3rd DSP update and had to power cycle. Everything is good. I did lose all my settings however. BIG THANKS TO JOEROD!!

PS - you do not need to have the input of your cd player active to run the update. I was on a completely different input at the time I played the cd-r.

Can't wait for the 875 main update!!
post #123 of 5559
I have updated my 905 to 1.08 but not my 885. Is the current flavor of the 1.08 floating around compatible with the 885? I know that the DSP update is universal between models...not sure about the f/w.
post #124 of 5559
Wanted to share my update success on my 885 SSP. I used the PS3 to perform my update.

First I used CDBurnerXP for my PC to burn the DSP update. I burned .wav file as an audio file.

On my PS3 I used the optical out and connected to optical 1 on the 885. I had the following in my PS3 settings,
1) Music settings -> Audio CD output freq: 44.1/88.2/176 & bitmapping : off
2) Sound settings -> Digital optical out: 44.1kHz & 48kHz (i know someone earlier had posted to tick 44.1 only but both my 44.1kHz and 48kHz were greyed out and could not be unticked for some reason)

My 885 has FW 1.04 / 07927A and originally had the following DSP versions,

1 – 07927A
2 – 07518A
3 – 07820B

I followed the Onkyo instructions sent from joerod. They were pretty straightforward,

On the Onkyo unit itself (not the remote)
1) Hold "Display" and then while holding display press "standby/on"
2) press tone "+" (it's the bottom button not the top)
3) press "return" (you should immediately see "S/PDIF..."
4) I immediately hit play on the PS3 controller and the PS3 played my CD

I then saw "S/PDIF Update" then "Writing 1st DSP" then "S/PDIF Update" ...then "Writing 2nd DSP" then "S/PDIF Update" again then "Writing 3rd DSP" and then "S/PDIF Update" again. I never did see "Complete" or "Clear" as the Onkyo instructions suggest. I just kept seeing "S/PDIF Update" and after about 10 min of not seeing any change, I stopped the CD and manually power cycled the 885. I immediately checked the DSP versions and was relieved to see,

FW 1.04 / 07927A (no change to FW)

1 – 08214A (this is new)
2 – 07518A
3 – 07820B

All my 885 settings were erased and I had to run set up again. Good thing I wrote all my previous settings down. Since the PS3 cannot bitstream DTS-HD MA I just did a sanity test of a Blu Ray disc outputting PCM DTS core track from LFoDH just to make sure my Onkyo would work. Not sure if the main DTS-MA HD issue is resolved however.

I hope this helps others. And many thanks again to joerod!
post #125 of 5559
Successful update here on my 805 FW 1.04, I used my Sony DVD player DVP-NS725P. I set the player to output to PCM first. The CD burned using Roxio. Thanks joerod. I'm looking forward to the main firmware update for the 805 when that become available.
post #126 of 5559
once you update can you ever go back? The reason I ask is that there are those including myself that never experienced the lip-synch. What if by upgrading the FW when it comes out that all of a sudden what was fixed is now broken happens? Is it just a risk to take?
post #127 of 5559
By the way. Do you have the list as to what the 905 FW upgrade fixes? Not from what youe experienced but what Onkyo claimed it would fix.
post #128 of 5559
Ok, finally, after some hair pulling, I got my 805 to update. 1st try, I hooked my Sony SACD changer to Opt1, but it wouldn't read the disc. 2nd, I hooked my BD30 to Opt1, it read the disc, but I didn't get anything more than SPDIF updating...
It never went to DSP writing.

Tried several times. No luck. Tried burning the disc again with different settings. Same thing. REbooted the computer and burned a 3rd disc. Same thing. Tried all manner of settings on the BD30, no luck.

Finally, on a whim, I put the last disc I burned back into the Sony SACD, and it read fine. So I swapped the Optical back and it finally went through with writing the DSP.

Not sure why my BD30 wouldn't do the update or why my SACD didn't want to read the 1st disc I tried.

Anyway, time to setup Audyssey again.
post #129 of 5559
yeah, i too had to do some trial and error. started at 1 am and finished around 3 am. 3, no, 4 different players and 3 cd 'coasters' later i finally got it to work. it was because at first, i used nero express which doesn't seem to 'finalize' the disc. used the full-edition nero burning rom and it finalized and all was bliss.

guess i was a nimrod for not following directions.

thanks again, joerod!!
post #130 of 5559
Just got a chance to try the DSP updates on my Onkyo 705. Tried:

Fantastic Four (Blu-Ray) time-4:22. DTS-HD-MA via Samsung BD-P1400 HDMI bitstream and

Eagles Fairwell 1 Tour (HD DVD) time-23:40. DTS-HD-MA via A-35 Via HDMI Bitstream. No pops on either disc evident.
post #131 of 5559
Quote:
Originally Posted by quack724 View Post

Wanted to share my update success on my 885 SSP. I used the PS3 to perform my update. My 885 originally has FW 1.04 / 07927A and originally had the following DSP versions,

I followed the Onkyo instructions sent from joerod. They were pretty straightforward,I immediately checked the DSP versions and was relieved to see,

1 - 08214A
2 - 07518A
3 - 07820B


I hope this helps others. And many thanks again to joerod!


Can you tell us what firmware you now have on the 885? I would like to upgrade my firmware but I'm waiting for 1.08 for my 885.

Thank
post #132 of 5559
i just tried updating my integra dtr-7.8 via oppo to my panasonic bd30. all the steps went ok but it never said complete the screen just said S/DIF update so after 15 minutes i turned the receiver off and then it said clear and then shut off. after turning my receiver back on all my settings cleared and i checked the DSP firmware versions and they all were current . the only question that i have is when i hold the display and standby button the display still shows Main 1.04/07114a which it said that before i updated. did i update my receiver or do i still have the old firmware? i think what is going on is that i just updated the dsp but the firmware is still the same. am i correct?

dsp readings were
1. sr805/08214a
2. sr805/07518a
3. sr805/07820b
post #133 of 5559
I was able to download the FW update sheet instructions. It shows that just a RS232 Straight Cable is needed to connect from your PC to the Onkyo being updated. Does the length of the cable matter? As my PC is about 18' from my HT rack. Also I see mention of a Keyspan adapter that some have used in past posts. Is a Keyspan adapter needed to do the FW update?

I am asking these questions so I will be ready to do the FW update to my 805 when the FW is available.

Bill
post #134 of 5559
Quote:
Originally Posted by paulfromtulsa View Post

i just tried updating my integra dtr-7.8 via oppo to my panasonic bd30. all the steps went ok but it never said complete the screen just said S/DIF update so after 15 minutes i turned the receiver off and then it said clear and then shut off. after turning my receiver back on all my settings cleared and i checked the DSP firmware versions and they all were current. the only question that i have is when i hold the display and standby button the display stil shows the old 1.04/07114a. did i update my receiver or do i still have the old firmware? i think what is going on is that i just updated the dsp but the firmware is still the same. am i correct?

edit - I misread your post. It looks like you have successfully updated the DSP's.
post #135 of 5559
Quote:
Originally Posted by paulfromtulsa View Post

i just tried updating my integra dtr-7.8 via oppo to my panasonic bd30. all the steps went ok but it never said complete the screen just said S/DIF update so after 15 minutes i turned the receiver off and then it said clear and then shut off. after turning my receiver back on all my settings cleared and i checked the DSP firmware versions and they all were current . the only question that i have is when i hold the display and standby button the display still shows Main 1.04/07114a which it said that before i updated. did i update my receiver or do i still have the old firmware? i think what is going on is that i just updated the dsp but the firmware is still the same. am i correct?

dsp readings were
1. sr805/08214a
2. sr805/07518a
3. sr805/07820b

You updated your DSP correctly. The Main Firmware is done by computer through an R232 cable.
post #136 of 5559
Quote:
Originally Posted by paulfromtulsa View Post

i just tried updating my integra dtr-7.8 via oppo to my panasonic bd30. all the steps went ok but it never said complete the screen just said S/DIF update so after 15 minutes i turned the receiver off and then it said clear and then shut off. after turning my receiver back on all my settings cleared and i checked the DSP firmware versions and they all were current . the only question that i have is when i hold the display and standby button the display still shows Main 1.04/07114a which it said that before i updated. did i update my receiver or do i still have the old firmware? i think what is going on is that i just updated the dsp but the firmware is still the same. am i correct?

dsp readings were
1. sr805/08214a
2. sr805/07518a
3. sr805/07820b

Paul, could you post your findings in "the official integra7.8" thread.
Let us know how it worked.
post #137 of 5559
Quote:
Originally Posted by boe View Post

Can you tell us what firmware you now have on the 885? I would like to upgrade my firmware but I'm waiting for 1.08 for my 885.

Thank

boe, I still have FW 1.04. This is the original FW that came with my unit and I have not updated it. Only DSP change. I'll update my original post for clarity.
post #138 of 5559
Slightly OT, but I dug up my old RS232 cable in preparation for what I hope is a pending 805 main update. I just wanted to make sure it would be the right one, and luckily, yes it is.

I bought this cable about 6 years ago to use with my broadband router, which had frozen up after a firmware upgrade and needed to have serial port access to reset it. They were very hard to find at that time. I never thought I'd use it again, but here we are many years later, when serial ports have nearly become extinct on new computers, needing RS232 access. I have a feeling that finding a proper RS232 pass through cable is going to be even harder these days. Why can't they use USB for these updates?

Anyway, a hint at finding the correct cable: It will probably not be called an RS232 'straight through" cable, it will probably be called a DB9 M/F extension cable. Yes, the back of the receiver is a female connector and the back of most computers (if they actually still have a serial port) has a male connector. Luckily, our laptop has a serial port.

Bring on the update!

EDIT: 6 years ago, I don't think monoprice was around, but today, they are, and it seems they have DB9 M/F cables for cheap.
http://www.monoprice.com/products/su...02&cp_id=10212
post #139 of 5559
Quote:
Originally Posted by billbillw View Post

Slightly OT, but I dug up my old RS232 cable in preparation for what I hope is a pending 805 main update. I just wanted to make sure it would be the right one, and luckily, yes it is.

I bought this cable about 6 years ago to use with my broadband router, which had frozen up after a firmware upgrade and needed to have serial port access to reset it. They were very hard to find at that time. I never thought I'd use it again, but here we are many years later, when serial ports have nearly become extinct on new computers, needing RS232 access. I have a feeling that finding a proper RS232 pass through cable is going to be even harder these days. Why can't they use USB for these updates?

Anyway, a hint at finding the correct cable: It will probably not be called an RS232 'straight through" cable, it will probably be called a DB9 M/F extension cable. Yes, the back of the receiver is a female connector and the back of most computers (if they actually still have a serial port) has a male connector. Luckily, our laptop has a serial port.

Bring on the update!

my dell doesnt have this port. is there some sort of adapter to convert the rs232 to a usb or am I SOL.
post #140 of 5559
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Originally Posted by Hot Grits View Post

my dell doesnt have this port. is there some sort of adapter to convert the rs232 to a usb or am I SOL.

yes check amazon for keyspan adapter or google for usb to serial rs232 cable
post #141 of 5559
I am getting ready to update the DSP Firmware as soon as I go out and buy an optical cable. I have a couple of questions for someone who has updated already:

I have an old DVD player with an optical out that I was going to plug into the Opt 1. Do I have to assign one of my inputs to this Opt 1 or can I just hit play at the appropriate time of the upgrade.

What settings will be reset. I would like to copy down what they currently are so I have record of them. My system sound good right now as it it. I'm just trying to fix the MA bomb problem.

Thanks for the help
post #142 of 5559
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hot Grits View Post

my dell doesnt have this port. is there some sort of adapter to convert the rs232 to a usb or am I SOL.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...postcount=8899
post #143 of 5559
Quote:
Originally Posted by audio_rhyme View Post

Hollywood1,

1) check your CD and make sure it's an audio CD, and not a data CD.

2) I got the exact display symtom the first time around when I use a CD created with the "Burn Audio CD" feature from Windows Media Player ... Do not use Windows Media Player to create the audio CD. I recreated another audio CD using Roxio 6 and updated the DSP just fine, with DSP versions verified on the 805 display per the firmware instructions, after power cycle.

Haven't check DTS-MA bitstream via HDMI since I don't have a Panny BD-30. Need to get Pan's Labyrinth (Red version) and try it on the HD-A35 with DTS-MA bitstream.

Yep, it's a audio CD burned with Nero. Confirmed it plays can hear the tones, just don't get any display on the 805 showing S/PDIF Update after pushing the return button. Any ideas?
post #144 of 5559
Quote:
I have a feeling that finding a proper RS232 pass through cable is going to be even harder these days. Why can't they use USB for these updates?

Easy to find online. Paid less than $5 for a 50 foot cable from monoprice.
post #145 of 5559
Quote:
Originally Posted by GPZ4189 View Post

I am getting ready to update the DSP Firmware as soon as I go out and buy an optical cable. I have a couple of questions for someone who has updated already:

I have an old DVD player with an optical out that I was going to plug into the Opt 1. Do I have to assign one of my inputs to this Opt 1 or can I just hit play at the appropriate time of the upgrade.

What settings will be reset. I would like to copy down what they currently are so I have record of them. My system sound good right now as it it. I'm just trying to fix the MA bomb problem.

Thanks for the help

You can just select the OPT1 input just before trying to update.

You will loose everything as far as settings. It will be like the day you got it. You have to reset HDMI inputs, digital inputs, AV sync, Re-do Audyssey setup, listening presets, etc.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hollywood1 View Post

Yep, it's a audio CD burned with Nero. Confirmed it plays can hear the tones, just don't get any display on the 805 showing S/PDIF Update after pushing the return button. Any ideas?

Are you hitting the Return button before DSP1:SR8051/xxxxxx disappears from the display? You have to do it quickly (less than 3 seconds). You should see SPDIF Update regardless of what is being sent by the CD player. Success comes when you see DSP1 writing, etc.
post #146 of 5559
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill Mac View Post

I was able to download the FW update sheet instructions. It shows that just a RS232 Straight Cable is needed to connect from your PC to the Onkyo being updated. Does the length of the cable matter? As my PC is about 18' from my HT rack. Also I see mention of a Keyspan adapter that some have used in past posts. Is a Keyspan adapter needed to do the FW update?
I am asking these questions so I will be ready to do the FW update to my 805 when the FW is available.

Bill

Bill, my RS232 (DB9) straight cable is 50' long and it works perfectly for firmware updates to my DTR-8.8 Integra. You would probably want something like http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2 for your setup distance of 18-20 feet. Mine is like 35' away so I needed the 50'.

You only need the Keyspan adapter if you're going to update via USB and don't have a RS232 (DB9) serial port on your 'puter. Bear in mind that the USB distances are shorter than the straight cable but at 18-20+ feet the USB should be OK. The Keyspan setup is a lot more expensive than just the straight cable hook-up....if you can do that.
post #147 of 5559
Quote:
Originally Posted by WilliamZX11 View Post

Easy to find online. Paid less than $5 for a 50 foot cable from monoprice.

I noted that in my post. I was really meaning that they would be hard, if not impossible to find in a retail store. Monoprice is one of the greatest online stores to every hit the internet if you ask me. I could have save hundreds of dollars if they were around back around 2001.
post #148 of 5559
Quote:
Originally Posted by billbillw View Post

You can just select the OPT1 input just before trying to update.

You will loose everything as far as settings. It will be like the day you got it. You have to reset HDMI inputs, digital inputs, AV sync, Re-do Audyssey setup, listening presets, etc.



Are you hitting the Return button before DSP1:SR8051/xxxxxx disappears from the display? You have to do it quickly (less than 3 seconds). You should see SPDIF Update regardless of what is being sent by the CD player. Success comes when you see DSP1 writing, etc.

Yes to the above. Never see anything after DSP1:SR8051/xxxxxx when pressing the return button. Am I missing something?
post #149 of 5559
Quote:
Originally Posted by sjv View Post

Bill, my RS232 (DB9) straight cable is 50' long and it works perfectly for firmware updates to my DTR-8.8 Integra. You would probably want something like http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2 for your setup distance of 18-20 feet. Mine is like 35' away so I needed the 50'.

You only need the Keyspan adapter if you're going to update via USB and don't have a RS232 (DB9) serial port on your 'puter. Bear in mind that the USB distances are shorter than the straight cable but at 18-20+ feet the USB should be OK. The Keyspan setup is a lot more expensive than just the straight cable hook-up....if you can do that.

So if I don't have the RS232 port on my PC, then I have to spend $30 on one of those adapters?!? I am NOT happy to hear that.
So then I would have to make a choice to either, send my 805 to a service center, or spend $30 on an adapter.
post #150 of 5559
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Originally Posted by dssturbo1 View Post

yes check amazon for keyspan adapter or google for usb to serial rs232 cable

I found something like this in my "junk drawer". Would this possibly work?
http://www.amazon.com/Cables-Go-2688...070769-0223223
Amazon.com: Cables To Go - 26886 - 13in USB To DB9 Male Serial Adapter: Electronics

I can unhook the rcvr and bring it over to the pc. the cable is about 16 inches long.
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