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post #481 of 600
Which chapter you guys like?For me chaper3 is violent scene and great demo soundtrack.

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Which chapter you guys like?For me chaper3 is violent scene and great demo soundtrack.

really....anything that goes BOOM!
post #483 of 600
I just got my new Band of Brothers Blueray box set and I am trying to get the pip to work. I got the pip to come up but I get no sound with pip. So look to you guy for help is anyone having this problem. I am using a new LG bd-300 and a onkyo 805 thought hdmi any ideas???
post #484 of 600
I watched the first disc yesterday and it was fantastic,great story,good a/v,very enjoyable so far.
post #485 of 600
How do I see the interactive field guide. I see the timeline and the icons. I go to the icon but i cant get the icon to display any information it contains. Like Bio info etc.....

What button do i have to push on my remote? I have a Panasonic dmp-bd35
post #486 of 600
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Originally Posted by supertech30 View Post

I just got my new Band of Brothers Blueray box set and I am trying to get the pip to work. I got the pip to come up but I get no sound with pip. So look to you guy for help is anyone having this problem. I am using a new LG bd-300 and a onkyo 805 thought hdmi any ideas???

I don't have your player but I'm betting you have to set it to internally decode the audio and send it out as LPCM for this to work, since the two audio tracks are being mixed in realtime and therefore have to be decoded first. Works fine on my PS3.
post #487 of 600
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Originally Posted by wouldman View Post

How do I see the interactive field guide. I see the timeline and the icons. I go to the icon but i cant get the icon to display any information it contains. Like Bio info etc.....

What button do i have to push on my remote? I have a Panasonic dmp-bd35

Are you trying to interact with the instructions? Start the chapter, and the timeline will appear during the video, and you can interact with it then.
post #488 of 600
This may be a bit late, but I have a suggestion.

I remember well that when I watched the show originally on DVD, in the contemporary segments with reminiscences by the actual veterans, they were not identified by name. It was only at the very end that we learned which veterans were speaking, and it was exceptionally moving, after having seen them portrayed for so many hours, to discover which "characters" we'd been seeing and hearing from. (And which ones we hadn't.)

I would urge new viewers not to use the PIP feature if you've never seen this series before, and not to use it until you've seen the entire series. The PIP feature is a spoiler for the big "reveal" of the veterans' identities, and for me, at least, that was one of the emotional high points of the entire series.
post #489 of 600
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Originally Posted by rdclark View Post

Are you trying to interact with the instructions? Start the chapter, and the timeline will appear during the video, and you can interact with it then.

Yes I have the timeline and there are little icons along the timeline. I take it that these icons are the places that information is provided, I just dont know how to get the information to pop up and display itself.
post #490 of 600
My wife and I just finished watching the series last night. As the son of a WWII vet, this was a very powefull experience.

Just to show how moving and well done the series is, I started viewing the epsiodes by myself since my wife is more of a chick flick kinda gal. Starting with epsiode 5, we started watching it together. She was kind of watching with 1 eye while she was playing on her laptop. By episode 6, she had put her laptop away. After we finished watching episode 10, she asked me if I wanted to start watching the series over from episode 1 with her. Having my wife interested in a war story is a testament on how great this series is.
post #491 of 600
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Originally Posted by laserrich View Post

My wife and I just finished watching the series last night. As the son of a WWII vet, this was a very powefull experience.

I actually think the 1-hour special of just the vets talking is more moving still. Especially after you've watched the series and seen the enactments of some of their stories.
post #492 of 600
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Yes I have the timeline and there are little icons along the timeline. I take it that these icons are the places that information is provided, I just dont know how to get the information to pop up and display itself.

When you select the feature from the features menu, it takes you to a screen with a diagram of the timeline that shows you whart the icons are and what controls to use to access them. Then, when you start the actual chapter, after the introductory material and opening titles, the actual timeline will pop up. use the L/R arrow to highlight on/off to choose whether you want interactivity. If no, everything will pop up by itself at the appropriate moment. If yes, you can arrow left and right to each icon and select it manually.

I prefer "pop up" mode (non interactive), since that way everything displays in synch with the program. Of course, I highly recommend that everyone watch all of the episodes without any of these features, and then the documentary, before going back and enabling the features on your second and third pass through the series!
post #493 of 600
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Originally Posted by rdclark View Post

If yes, you can arrow left and right to each icon and select it manually.

Thanks for working with me on this. I think you are close to my solution. The next step after your above statement is what I'm missing.

If I select the icon manually then how do I make the icon popup the information? What button do i hit to do this after i select the icon?
post #494 of 600
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Originally Posted by wouldman View Post

Thanks for working with me on this. I think you are close to my solution. The next step after your above statement is what I'm missing.

If I select the icon manually then how do I make the icon popup the information? What button do i hit to do this after i select the icon?

"Select" means use the navigation arrows to highlight the item and click OK on your remote to activate it. (Your remote may say "Enter" Or "Select" instead of "OK."

1. From the disc main menu. select Special Features.
2. Select "In the Field."
3. The following screen displays instructions. When you have read them and are ready, click OK.
4. Select "Play Feature."
5. The timeline will appear when the story begins, after the veteran interviews.
6. Select "Interactive on/off"and OK your choice.
7. If you selected On, arrow down to enter the timeline.
8. Use the left-right arrows on your remote to move along the timeline from one icon to the next. With an icon highlighted, click OK to select it.

hth
post #495 of 600
I just finished watching the series and I found it to be a remarkable achievement in every respect. I can't believe I hesitated so long to pick it up. I wasted the opportunity to pick up the HDDVD set and I was still unsure when it came out on blu-ray. It wasn't until Amazon had it for $37.49 that I jumped at it. If I knew what I do now, back before I bought the set, I would have happily paid two to three times that amount.

This is an absolute must own.
post #496 of 600
Yes, I was on the fence for a long time about double-dipping on a set that I had already watched several times on DVD and was getting somewhat lukewarm reviews regarding PQ on BD.

The sub-$40 price seduced me, and I'm glad. The two synchronized extras ("In the Words..." and "In the Field..."), while containing much information also included in the original set, make additional repeat viewings well worth the time. The PQ is still a significant upgrade. And now I can pass along my DVD set to my son, so he can get a better understanding of the war both his grandfathers served in.

And a completely irrelevant aside to the tech crowd: no better argument has ever been made in favor of in-player decoding of HD codecs. The secondary audio is critical in this indispensable set, and in-player decoding is the only way to retain HD audio while using the secondary audio features. The case for bitstreaming gets weaker every time a stellar release like this comes along.
post #497 of 600
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Originally Posted by rdclark View Post

And a completely irrelevant aside to the tech crowd: no better argument has ever been made in favor of in-player decoding of HD codecs. The secondary audio is critical in this indispensable set, and in-player decoding is the only way to retain HD audio while using the secondary audio features. The case for bitstreaming gets weaker every time a stellar release like this comes along.

The problem is that most of the players that can decode the advanced DTS lossless format internally, have come out in the last two quarters. Heck, the Samsung 2550 just got the ability to do it this week... On the other hand, we're coming up on two years since Onkyo started the parade of recievers that can decode DTS-HD MA and Dolby TrueHD. Based on that, one could reasonably assume that your typical AVS'er is more likely to own a capable receiver than player.

Personally, if I want to listen to DTS-HD MA, my only option is to bitstream. Lossy audio is available for the primary+secondary PiP audio track, when decoding internally. I'm unsure as to whether I (or anyone else for that matter) would be able to tell the difference anyway, under properly run double-blind testing conditions, but don't get me started on that
post #498 of 600
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
You're not including the most popular Blu-ray player, the PS3.
post #499 of 600
Band of Brothers is torturing my middle-end bookshelf system. PSB 25s just arent built to handle such stress. Everything is crystal clear until the action and screaming ramps up. Ive spent about 2 grand on audio gear ( i know its what some spend on a single speaker) and this bd is killing it. I couldnt imagine how could this would sound on a high end system. Jealousy.
post #500 of 600
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I couldnt imagine how could this would sound on a high end system.

I can assure you it sounds just awesome. I was impressed by this series when I first watched it on satellite when it first ran. Having just run through the series back to back over 3 nights on BD I am now completely floored. I am seriously wondering what the point of satellite service is any more.
post #501 of 600
I have watched the first 5 and I find that the story and charactor development is a little light. There is no shortage of action which is great, but I was expecting more of a story.
post #502 of 600
Vancouver, I'm sure you are aware that Band of Brothers is a true story. Yes some of it was "made up", but for the most part (98%?) it's a true story. Sure action movies based on nothing will get more of a story and action but this is not a fantasy movie. Read the book if you haven't and compare it to the mini series.

Jeff
post #503 of 600
I have had this set for about 2 weeks now...UN-FLIPPIN BELIEVABLE!!!
The best war film in the best presentationin history. Picture qulity astounding in detail and sharpness for most of it. Audio quality is sick, the DTS-HD >>>avr via 5.1 anaolgs is truly AMAZING! Best 59.00 bucks spent in a long time. I sold my dvd set for $ 30.00 to a buddy at work.


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Vancouver, I'm sure you are aware that Band of Brothers is a true story. Yes some of it was "made up", but for the most part (98%?) it's a true story. Sure action movies based on nothing will get more of a story and action but this is not a fantasy movie. Read the book if you haven't and compare it to the mini series.

Jeff

agreed
post #504 of 600
I just finished the entire series and I am floored by the story.Why I waited so long to watch in any form is beyond me.The use of non-big starts made this even more enjoyable.The end of the series was very touching to hear the real guys talking about this,it made me now want to read the book.Every bit of this was enjoyable,maybe not for my neighbors.
post #505 of 600
sweet deal, 34.99$ at Amazon TODAY ONLY!

http://www.amazon.com/Band-Brothers-...dp/B00129H7VS/
post #506 of 600
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Originally Posted by rdclark View Post

Yes, I was on the fence for a long time about double-dipping on a set that I had already watched several times on DVD and was getting somewhat lukewarm reviews regarding PQ on BD.

The sub-$40 price seduced me, and I'm glad. The two synchronized extras ("In the Words..." and "In the Field..."), while containing much information also included in the original set, make additional repeat viewings well worth the time. The PQ is still a significant upgrade. And now I can pass along my DVD set to my son, so he can get a better understanding of the war both his grandfathers served in.

And a completely irrelevant aside to the tech crowd: no better argument has ever been made in favor of in-player decoding of HD codecs. The secondary audio is critical in this indispensable set, and in-player decoding is the only way to retain HD audio while using the secondary audio features. The case for bitstreaming gets weaker every time a stellar release like this comes along.


While I agree that in player decoding makes more sense then bitstreaming, there is little proof available that the current crop of players can actually decode lossless to PCM when secondary audio is present (outside of the PS3). For example, in the Panasonic BD35/55 thread a reviewer from Big Picture Big Sound received information from the Panasonic engineering department that when secondary audio is present the player internally decodes the lossy track not the lossless track. Another example, the Sony 550 which decodes DTS-HD MA cannot decode DTS-HD MA if secondary audio is present; instead it uses the lossy DTS track. I have no knowledge concerning the Samsung players but as the Panasonic players seem to be the leaders and first to market in terms of the latest audio decoding I would be surprised if the Samsung players were more capable.

While I am a little skeptical as to the accuracy of the information provided by the Panasonic engineers I haven't heard reliable information to the contrary. So in other words, unless your using a PS3 you are more than likely getting lossy if secondary audio is present and your internally decoding; the fact that most are not noticing suggests that the differences between lossy and lossless are not that significant.
post #507 of 600
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Originally Posted by EVT View Post

While I agree that in player decoding makes more sense then bitstreaming, there is little proof available that the current crop of players can actually decode lossless to PCM when secondary audio is present (outside of the PS3). For example, in the Panasonic BD35/55 thread a reviewer from Big Picture Big Sound received information from the Panasonic engineering department that when secondary audio is present the player internally decodes the lossy track not the lossless track. Another example, the Sony 550 which decodes DTS-HD MA cannot decode DTS-HD MA if secondary audio is present; instead it uses the lossy DTS track. I have no knowledge concerning the Samsung players but as the Panasonic players seem to be the leaders and first to market in terms of the latest audio decoding I would be surprised if the Samsung players were more capable.

While I am a little skeptical as to the accuracy of the information provided by the Panasonic engineers I haven't heard reliable information to the contrary. So in other words, unless your using a PS3 you are more than likely getting lossy if secondary audio is present and your internally decoding; the fact that most are not noticing suggests that the differences between lossy and lossless are not that significant.

First, I am in fact a member of the "the audible differences are very subtle" camp; I think the benefits of lossless audio are perceptible but not of much consequence for most people.

Second, I do have a PS3, as do (still) the majority of Blu-ray users in the world, and I admit I have not closely tracked the number of other players which can't to lossless+secondary internally.

Third, I think this exchange illustrates the sillyness of the topic of bitstreaming vs in-player decoding. If it matters, it should always matter. Not just when there's no secondary audio. Yet there is still a large number of obsessives who will not be satisfied with anything but bitstreaming, even if it means giving up secondary audio. Which, with a set like BoB, would be to throw out the baby with the bathwater.
post #508 of 600
Thread Starter 
$35 is a screaming deal on this set!
post #509 of 600
Thanks to you guys i picked this up as a blind buy today from amazon. I'll be looking forward to watching the mini series once it arrives having never seen it before.
post #510 of 600
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Originally Posted by EVT View Post

While I agree that in player decoding makes more sense then bitstreaming, there is little proof available that the current crop of players can actually decode lossless to PCM when secondary audio is present (outside of the PS3). For example, in the Panasonic BD35/55 thread a reviewer from Big Picture Big Sound received information from the Panasonic engineering department that when secondary audio is present the player internally decodes the lossy track not the lossless track. Another example, the Sony 550 which decodes DTS-HD MA cannot decode DTS-HD MA if secondary audio is present; instead it uses the lossy DTS track. I have no knowledge concerning the Samsung players but as the Panasonic players seem to be the leaders and first to market in terms of the latest audio decoding I would be surprised if the Samsung players were more capable.

While I am a little skeptical as to the accuracy of the information provided by the Panasonic engineers I haven't heard reliable information to the contrary. So in other words, unless your using a PS3 you are more than likely getting lossy if secondary audio is present and your internally decoding; the fact that most are not noticing suggests that the differences between lossy and lossless are not that significant.

If you disable the Secondary Audio track from the setup menu the lossless audio is always decoded. If Secondary Audio track is present AND enabled then the player will use just the "core" audio track.
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