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Phone line (for DishNetwork) over RG6??

post #1 of 6
3/31/08 at 4:22pm
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I need to move a Dish receiver to a location where all ports in the wall are being used except for one RG6 and I need to give the receiver a continuously available phone line (see below). So I figure two conductors are needed (I'll make sure not to ground the shield) to get a dial tone to that location. Will this work? Should I use baluns ? Anyone tried something like this? I'll be able to check for myself in a few days I hope, but if there's anything I'm missing I'd appreciate any help!

Thanks for any thoughts!

Andy


Background, for interest!
Just found out that Dish DOES require a phone line continuously hooked up for my new dual tuner receiver 722. The installer warned me about this - a "phone bypass" is possible but would cost ~$5 a month. So I put a phone line into the back. Following installation, I rearranged my media closet but reconnected (I thought) the phone line. However, the next morning I switched the 722 back on and it gave me a message like the installer had warned me of (I didn't write it down but it basically described the charge). So I subsituted a different phone line and had the diagnostics check the phone line "Phone line test successful, Smartcard info updated" came the message. So this requirement is now periodically enforced, at least for the newer receivers - my 921 didn't do that
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post #2 of 6
3/31/08 at 5:03pm
You can get devices which make a phone connection over your AC power lines. I can't speak for DishNetwork but DirectTV talks about them as a possible solution to this type of problem.

As far as RG6: a normal phone line connection only takes a pair of wires so RG6 would work, just a bit odd.
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post #3 of 6
3/31/08 at 7:39pm
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Originally Posted by fcwilt View Post

As far as RG6: a normal phone line connection only takes a pair of wires so RG6 would work, just a bit odd.

Thanks for the reassurance - - the Dish installer had the same reaction: unusual but should work
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post #4 of 6
4/1/08 at 7:53am
If there is a CAT5 at that location, why not just pull off the blue pair and use it for phone? Of course, you would have to pull it off at the other end and connect it to the phone system as well.
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post #5 of 6
4/1/08 at 1:01pm
I can not understand the installers comment regarding a phone line needing to be installed or there would be an addtional charge. Since day one, Direct TV and DishNetwork receivers have needed a phone line for billing reasons. Your receiver calls up periodically to let the provider know which Pay Per Views programming you had watched via ordering with your remote. The receivers calls up even if no programming was ordered so to let the provider know it's phone line is connected. If a receiver is set up where there is no phone line avalible, it is programmed so you can not order via remote and you must call in PPV orders. If you unplug the phone line from a receiver and the provider doesn't even get the expected test call, they send down info in the data stream instructing your receiver to no longer accept PPV orders via remote.
There must be some misunderstanding there with the installer.
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post #6 of 6
4/1/08 at 2:28pm
Unfortunately, Dish does charge for non-connection. Directly from their website:

Additional Outlet Programming Access Fee
$5.00
Customers who keep a phone line connected to their two-TV receiver save money every month. Customers who do not keep a phone line connected to their two-TV receiver, will automatically be charged the Programming Access Fee monthly when the system does not detect a continuous phone line connection. The following two-TV receivers are subject to this fee:
322 ● 522 ● 622
625 ● 722 ● 942
For more info, CLICK HERE
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