The "Official" Canon Vixia HF10 / HF100 Owner's Thread - Page 52

I intuitively hate interlaced and was never going to touch it.
After reading your post I did some testing. Mostly from of a moving car.
And, like it or not, I have to admit that, at all shutter speeds, 50i is much smoother than 25p on my PC (1280x1024 LCD).

Thanks

I live in Cape Town, South Africa. The life expectancy of a camera on the passenger seat with the window open could be measured in milliseconds

It would seem there's a run on the charger for this camera, I've yet to find one online that's actually in stock. Any suggestions on a retailer with one in stock and ready to deliver?

HDTV Freak, to be clear, it has been posted in a few places on this very long thread that the Pixela SW actually merges the split files back together during the upload process to your PC. So even though they are split on the flash card, the SW will combine them together so it is a single file for the given shot that went over the 2GB limit

Russell

Oh yeah, I remember it was posted here before. Doh!

hi guys

this weekend i worked on the m2ts and mts clips on my computer and would like to share some of my thoughts/findings etc...

i used SUPER to encode movies from m2ts/mts to mp4 - the resultant clips are about 1/2 to 1/3rd the size. please refer to the article for a step-by-step:

http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2008/0...ng-free-tools/

this guide is really simple and i was able to convert a few clips...however, i have one question - while encoding what frame/sec option should i choose? the options are 23.976, 29.97, 30 and so on...

does it matter what frame rate i use in the camcorder? this is the part that i dont really understand well - for example if i shoot using 60i, what option should i pick in SUPER...similarly, if i use 30p what option should i choose?

secondly, he recommends a video bitrate of 5088 - is this good, bad? if size is not a concern for me, how high can i go, before the incremental benefit is negligble?

thanks a ton - and hope this helps people with encoding, posting on vimeo etc...

Hi thanks for all your help but I am Looking for the BP-819 Battery and I can't find it. Is there any place that has it in stock.

Newegg will have some in soon. They jacked the price up, though. Glad I got it awhile ago.

-Ed

well the thing is I have to have it by the 17th of this month. Is there any place that has it.

You're better off checking B&M stores then, because some online stores might not get it to you in time even if you bend over for overnight shipping.

-Ed

AVCHD uses some of the best compression algorithms that produce the smallest files, but require heavy processing to decode/encode. One use for transcoding them is to get something with less of a compression to make it easier to edit (and end up with larger files). The other use is to compress them more or resize them so they are smaller and easier to handle when streaming, sending to friends, burning on DVDs, etc.

Depending on what you're looking to do, you'll set your transcode settings accordingly. Vimeo recommends 5MBps bit rate, and you can see what that looks like on their web site (by downloading the source movies). HF10/100 and FXP produces 17MBps videos. Transcoding to something higher than that (using the same compressing algorithm) will not yield a picture that's any better.

If you use other compression algorithms that are less intensive, you will need higher bitrates to produce the same quality image.


Without knowing why you're converting the video, i.e. what the target video is for, it's hard to say. If you're producing a low-quality proxy for further editing, I would keep the the frame rate the same as the original video. If you're exporting for vimeo/online use, you'll want 29.97 progressive video. For other uses, it depends on what they are.

If I can't find it at a B&M is it better to get 2 809s?? I purchased 2 16gig sdhc cards. Well I think this is the best option if I can't find it I'm going to get 1 809 and hold out till the 819 that way I can at least fill one of the 16gig sdhc cards.

Comptr

Looks like everyone's lining their pockets with these right now. B&H has them listed (and out of stock) at about 10$ more than newegg.

An 809 battery will give you about an hour of filming. A 16Gb card runs for about 2 hours at FXP.

Seggers

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...n_Battery.html

well I got one BP-809 for right now. I had some reward zone coupons so the BP-809 only cost me $2.15 with tax I think I got a good deal on it. When ever the BP-819 and the battery charger comes back in stock I will buy both of them. I also have the original BP-809 that comes in the box so the two batteries will let me fill one 16 gig sdhc card. Well Scratch the cost of $2.49. I got sold the wrong one. I still am going to get the right one and get the bigger one latter when its available.

got one delivered yesterday (ordered last thursday) from bhphoto. they were $10 cheaper than amazon who has been out or stock anyway.

Just got my camera, I've been playing with the video files.

I have a several .mts files on my computer, when I open them up using Pixela ImageMixer they all have a purple hue. I've searched through all the post and can't seem to find any who has had this issue.

Once I have the mts files in Pixela, what next? I tried to export the file; however the max resolution is 720 by 420.

I have Adobe Premiere (which apparently does not support mts), how can I get the highest quality file into Premiere? I suppose I could use Premiere to directly capture from the camera, but I'd rather be able to move the mts files over to my hardrive first (since that is fastest). Any one have any ideas?

Thanks a LOT.

Related question, now that i'm fully using this camcorder..

In the camcorders memory.. i see the full BD structure.. the mts files.. are you saying there is a reason to use Pixela to transfer the mts files from the stream folder (if going to do editing in Vegas or Pinnacle)? All i did was plugged in the usb cable (hf10) and copied the files from the stream folder to my computer.. (i dont see why this would be a problem though)

Also.. I was a bit confused in actually using the camcorder, as to what mode to set the thing to.. ie: aperature priority, tv, Programmed AE etc.. I wanted to use just a standard auto setting but wasnt sure which one was the right option.


Thanks

I think i mentioned this before, but if editing the mts files and not just remuxing them (sp).. re encoding on my dual core 1.86ghz machine takes about 15 hours to do one hour of video or on a quad core 2.4ghz machine, it takes about 6 hours for every 1 hour of camcorder avchd 17mbps video..

This is using an output option of 1920x1080 avchd and 60i at 15mbps (so a 2mbps drop in bit rate from the original).

CPU utilization on the dual core was at 100% during the recode, while the quadcore maxed out around 67% (so the quad core was more usable during the recode).

There's only a reason to use it if you have clips that have been split into multiple 2GB files.. Pixela "understands" this and will merge them into one. Otherwise, you have to do many binary merge (by using "copy /b" in windows command line, or some other similar tool).

Pixela also renames .mts to .m2ts, but I don't know if that's a benefit or not. I don't really care which it is, and I don't use any software that does.

I was thinking of grabbing some accessories for the canon..

I've never used many addons in the past, though i do still have a wide angle lense that was for a sony trv hi-8 camcorder.. are there any adapters that would make it possible to use that lense (not sure what its size is)..

**EDIT.. i have a lens cover protector, it says 37mm, so i'm guessing i could use the wide angle converter from my Sony without issue and maybe the protector?



Otherwise.. from what i read here..

The Century 0.55x wide angle seems to be the popular one.. but what about the wd-h37? (EDIT: above, it appears my sony will "fit", not sure on usability though?)

Is there a telephoto lense that works well?

I was going to go with this bag mentioned before, as it latches to your belt and looks fairly compact: http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...uct_id=9729393

On the note of the battery it seems the same 809 battery runs $65 shipped or the other battery is $105 (but how much does this one weigh in comparison).. If the bp619 is that much heavier, it would seem to me going with 2 of the 809's makes more sense.

Is the CG-800 the only decent portable charger for the camera? Does it come with a DC cigarette lighter adapter? (not a huge deal as i also have an inventor for in my car too).. Is there a generic charger that can be used in its place instead?

Someone also mentioned using some sort of cover when filming at say the beach.. does anyone have the model number of such a lense "cover" or protection device? Any reason i couldnt use the lense protector (37mm) from my only Sony camcorder? I guess i wouldnt want to just leave it on there in all situations though?



Final question, i asked this in a recent post, but i figured i'd regroup it here:

Can anyone explain the difference between the different modes on the camera like aperture Priority, TV etc.. and which one is a good generic automatic setting to stick with?

Also.. does anyone use any of the enhanced options like "Vivid" mode .. are they worth using?


Thanks again

I already called bhphoto and they said they were sold out. You were lucky that you got one. They are sold out everywhere.

PowerDVD will play (with GPU hardware acceleration) AVCHD clips that have a m2ts extension but not mts so it's beneficial to use Pixela in this case.

PowerDVD does not seem to have user-accessible deinterlacing options.

the century 0.55x lens is a quality piece of kit if you can deal with the fact it only works at the wide end of the zoom and, although some claim it will work up to half of the zoom range, i find it only works up to about one-quarter, perhaps 1/3rd the zoom range. i've used it on three cameras now and it is consistent in that regards.

also it does cause some softening at the edges and increases (causes?) some purple fringing.

in spite of these annoyances, i consider it an essential piece of my camera equipment and it stays on the lens more often than off.

/guy

PowerDVD 7 Ultra allows me to select several hardware and software deinterlacing options under video/advanced options (pg77 User Guide). It also displays the nVidia PureVideo HD logo on the the splash screen.

I have a nVidia 9600GT in my desktop PC and a 8600M GT in my laptop and both systems allow setting deinterlace options within PowerDVD.

Just got my camera, I've been playing with the video files.

I have a several .mts files on my computer, when I open them up using Pixela ImageMixer they all have a purple hue. I've searched through all the post and can't seem to find any who has had this issue.

I have Adobe Premiere (which apparently does not support mts), how can I get the highest quality file into Premiere? I suppose I could use Premiere to directly capture from the camera, but I'd rather be able to move the mts files over to my hardrive first (since that is fastest). Any one have any ideas?

Thanks a LOT.

Is there any reason to not to use my sony wide angle lens.. or are they constructed to work with only certain cameras.. ie: its the right threading..

Same thing with the lens protector.. should i just leave it on all the time or only when filming at the beach with sand and dust?

Cheers

This guide isn't working for me. I don't get 5 files, just 2: bits0001.mpa and bits0001.mpv

Any idea what's wrong?

I'd like this to work because I assume it is better (smaller file) than using Imagemixer to output in widescreen mpeg format.

If the filter thread is 37mm, any wide angle converter will work. I used to use a Canon wide angle lens on my old Sony digicam a few years ago.

Definitely use the lens protector when the environment is nasty. On my previous camcorder, I used the UV filter permanently. A quality filter degrades the image slightly (if at all).


Matt

i use the century because it is the widest angle practicable (most of the others are 0.7x) and i'll freely admit that the association with the schneider brand is a factor since i'm an old-time film photographer even though i know that nearly all of those old, respected brands (leitz, zeiss, etal) have long since prostituted themselves and marketing now trumps quality and innovation.

i leave a uv filter on any camera i own that has screw threads simply because it might protect the lens (or housing) from impacts or splashes or dust.

/guy