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post #3091 of 3808
For the HF100 (or any camcorder for that matter), if I used a step-up ring to say 37-52mm and put a 52mm wide angle lens, would that reduce (or remove) vignetting compared to using the same wide angle lens, except at 37mm? And if I wanted to add a filter to the end of the wide angle lens, would stepping up again also reduce vignetting? Thanks!
post #3092 of 3808
I just sold my HG10 gear and I'm about to order an HF100 setup, and one thing I'm balking about is battery price. For the time being, I'd like to try and get by on a couple of the smaller batteries so I can afford to buy other useful things (like a standalone charger).

Would anyone care to provide anecdotal evidence on their real world use of their HF10/HF100's on the BP-809 (890mAh) packs? I would really appreciate it!

I plan to shoot mostly in 30-minute-or-less (footage time, which translates to longer operating time) chunks because my needs don't exceed that and I love the idea of sticking with cheap 4GB cards that conveniently produce disk images that burn to cheap single layer DVD-R for backups. So what I'm hoping for is that the smaller batteries can get me maybe about an hour of actual operating time?
post #3093 of 3808
Khyron,

Yes, the supplied 809 will last you about an hour. That's how long mine last me.

If money is an issues, and you don't worry about battery info, then the non Canon 819s might also be an option. They can be had from eBay, usually cost about 30 or so, come with their own charger (they can't be charged with Canon stuff) and will run for about 2 hours.

On the card, go for at least a class 4 card. There was a debate a while ago about which card was better, but I don't remember if there was a definitive answer. I know I have some aData and Transcend cards.

Seggers
post #3094 of 3808
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Originally Posted by seggers View Post

Yes, the supplied 809 will last you about an hour. That's how long mine last me.

Thanks, that really helps! I'd seen ratings out there for 80 minutes and figured "real life" was probably more like 60, since the 80 minute figure is probably based on letting the camera sit there and run, not zooming and stopping and starting, etc. So how bad is the charge cycle on the camera through the AC adapter? Several hours, an hour, never noticed because you always use a standalone charger?

Quote:
Originally Posted by seggers View Post

If money is an issues, and you don't worry about battery info, then the non Canon 819s might also be an option. They can be had from eBay, usually cost about 30 or so, come with their own charger (they can't be charged with Canon stuff) and will run for about 2 hours.

I've thought about it. I had several double-sized offbrand batteries for my HG10 that worked perfectly and even charged in the Canon charger, but obviously with Lithium-Ion the game completely changes. Down the road I will probably pick up some extended batteries of one flavor or another, but for right now I'm starting quick and cheap for an event I wanna shoot next weekend.

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Originally Posted by seggers View Post

On the card, go for at least a class 4 card. There was a debate a while ago about which card was better, but I don't remember if there was a definitive answer. I know I have some aData and Transcend cards.

Thanks, I exclusively use Class 6 cards already anyway because I like how fast they dump into my computers. In case anyone else here can benefit from it, here is a wonderful SDHC card-and-reader shootout article I found while doing my research recently:

http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/rea...?cid=6007-9438

There is a very useful link at the bottom of the text content of that page that opens the complete comparison chart in a new window. The delta in performance between some of the cards is so small as to probably be unimportant, but it does give one a nice idea of what to purchase with confidence. I actually like to shake things up a little when buying my cards just because all the different stickers make them easy to tell apart.
post #3095 of 3808
Shot some HD video on my HF10 SDHC card and went to Best Buy today. I put the card into a new TC-P50G10 and it played beautifully. Wow. A nice menu pops up, lists every file on the card with a date. Select which file you want, select play and you're set. Very slick.
post #3096 of 3808
I also tested my SD card on a Panasonic BD-60 Blue Ray player. The machine plays the video nicely, but the SD menu only shows the first date on my card and only one file. It then proceeds to play all the video on the card. I wish it listed each clip separately like the Panny Plasmas. It would be much nicer for navigating my SD card.
post #3097 of 3808
I also tested a DVD I burned using the Imagemixer software. I made a AVCHD disk on a regular DVD. It played perfectly in the BD-60 player, but I did notice that after each shot change the video would freeze for a second or two. I've heard this is normal when creating a AVCHD disk. Anyone else have this issue?
post #3098 of 3808
I have HF100 and Transcend 16GB + Kingston 2GB and I often get an error CANNOT RECORD with both cards.
I use different modes (FXP, XP+, SP, LP) and still get the same error...
What this could be?
post #3099 of 3808
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Originally Posted by SuperKolobok View Post

I have HF100 and Transcend 16GB + Kingston 2GB and I often get an error CANNOT RECORD with both cards.
I use different modes (FXP, XP+, SP, LP) and still get the same error...
What this could be?

Which card gives you the error and what type of card is it (SD, SD HC)?

Seggers
post #3100 of 3808
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Originally Posted by tvspy View Post

I also tested a DVD I burned using the Imagemixer software. I made a AVCHD disk on a regular DVD. It played perfectly in the BD-60 player, but I did notice that after each shot change the video would freeze for a second or two. I've heard this is normal when creating a AVCHD disk. Anyone else have this issue?

I get a little freeze at each clip transition. Not 2 seconds though. I'd say 1 second or less on my PS3.
post #3101 of 3808
Quote:
Originally Posted by seggers View Post

Which card gives you the error and what type of card is it (SD, SD HC)?

both of them

Transcend-16GB-SDHC-Class6
Kingston-2GB-SD-Class4
post #3102 of 3808
Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperKolobok View Post

both of them

Transcend-16GB-SDHC-Class6
Kingston-2GB-SD-Class4

OK, on the 2Gb, I don't that the HFs will take only SD cards. They have to be SD HC (to have enough data thruput). If it is a SD HC card, then see below.

On the 16Gb, I would put it into the cam and use the cam to format the card.

Seggers
post #3103 of 3808
Sorry if this has been covered already, I did a search and came up unconclusive..

How does the video look from this camera on a 52" TV?
post #3104 of 3808
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Originally Posted by takarp View Post

Hi!

I have a problem with my new HF100, on the camcorder I cannot review all the recorded clips, the first 500 clip is missing, but from PC I can see all the files on the SDHC card. The numbering of clips in camera is restarted from 001, now I recorded 200 new clips, but I can playback on TV the new ones, the first 500 can be played on pc only. I never pulled the card out of the cam, from one day to other the clips disappeared. How can I play all the vids on the camcorder? The index files on SDHC could be corrupted or damaged? How can they rebuilt or repaired? Is there any software to load back videos to the camera (become playable on it)?

Many thanks for helping me!



Hi Takarp,

I've nearly the same problem , but as it occured just yesterday, no solution

In addition, some of the clips are doubled, while others have been disappeared !

Did you get any further with this ?

Thanks for giving me your feedback !
post #3105 of 3808
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Originally Posted by Kenaf View Post

Sorry if this has been covered already, I did a search and came up unconclusive..

How does the video look from this camera on a 52" TV?

I connected my HF100 to my Sony 52W4100 via the component cables and it looks fantastic!
post #3106 of 3808
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Originally Posted by aggiealum View Post

I connected my HF100 to my Sony 52W4100 via the component cables and it looks fantastic!

Glad to hear it, that's the exact TV I have! Thank you!
post #3107 of 3808
Quote:
Originally Posted by seggers View Post

OK, on the 2Gb, I don't that the HFs will take only SD cards. They have to be SD HC (to have enough data thruput). If it is a SD HC card, then see below.

On the 16Gb, I would put it into the cam and use the cam to format the card.

Seggers

I formatted the card in cam and in cardreader several times, I did reset the camera. Inconclusive.
And another thing - sometimes I get an error CANNOT PLAY when I try to watch video footage from the card...
Firmware 1.02.
That's why i here....
post #3108 of 3808
Hi all, for those who don't know this site:

http://www.hv20.com

It's for the Canon HV20/30/40, but there is a lot of very good information there that is applicable to the HF100/HF10.
post #3109 of 3808
Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperKolobok View Post

I formatted the card in cam and in cardreader several times, I did reset the camera. Inconclusive.
And another thing - sometimes I get an error CANNOT PLAY when I try to watch video footage from the card...
Firmware 1.02.
That's why i here....

Your contacts might be dirty. Try cleaning the cards. If this does not help and the problem occurs with different cards I'd return the camera.
post #3110 of 3808
Good thread!
post #3111 of 3808
Greetings fellow HF100'ers, my camera is on a UPS truck right now and next weekend I'll be taking it with me to a special event where I'm going to want to shoot in a challenging environment. It's evident from a lot of the wide angle and filter discussion here that we have some professional and semi-pro photographers in here. I was wondering if I might impose upon those folks for some advice?

Here are some still shots to go with the explanation that follows...

http://lunacityarcade.com/photos.htm

I will be shooting in a fairly dark space, illuminated by florescent tubes overhead and filled with luminous objects (arcade games, bar signs, etc). I know that no matter what I do, there's going to be some washing out of detail in the bright objects and some grain in the darker spots. However I would like to try to get as nice a recording as I can. I intend, unless strongly recommended otherwise, to use FXP and shoot in 30p. What I have no idea about beyond that is what my other settings should be for taking some "walking around" shots.

As a second challenge, has anyone much experience with trying to shoot the CRT display of old videogame machines? Is an HF100 capable of doing so without beam-scan artifacts showing up in the video? If so, I'd love some recommendations on how to best attempt that as well.

Can anyone help me out with some advice? Thanks in advance!
post #3112 of 3808
Any downsides to using a third-party BP-819 battery in the Canon HF10 besides the lack of battery meter? There's quite a few options on eBay for a quarter of the price, and I'd love to save some money on that. There's even one battery that has a built in meter on it.
post #3113 of 3808
I have new HF10 and I am using Imagemixer to download the files from the
cameria's internal memory to my hdd which works well, with the mt2s files
in respective date folders with date/time stamp filenames.

I have a few questions regarding the files that are transferred using
Imagemixer.

Are these mt2s files all that are needed for any future use such as AVCHD DVD, BD, back to SD card, back to camera, etc?

Do I need to retain any of the original folder structure that the HF10
creates or is it all in the mt2s file now?

Can I delete the files from the camera once the files have been transferred
to my PC without losing any additional information that may be required at
a later date?

What is proper method for deleting these files from the camera memory/SD
card, delete using the camera functions?

Thanks.

Mark
post #3114 of 3808
Quote:
Originally Posted by mleineke View Post

Are these mt2s files all that are needed for any future use such as AVCHD DVD, BD, back to SD card, back to camera, etc?

Do I need to retain any of the original folder structure that the HF10
creates or is it all in the mt2s file now?

Can I delete the files from the camera once the files have been transferred
to my PC without losing any additional information that may be required at
a later date?

The best answer to this is "that depends". Some editing software out there will have no trouble using just the video files, and some playback software and playback devices will have no trouble either. However, for maximum reusability/compatibility, yes you should archive your entire AVCHD sessions as complete folder structures or disk images.

Once you've backed up everything that was copied off the camera, yes, it is safe to erase the camera memory or SDHC card.

Quote:
Originally Posted by mleineke View Post

What is proper method for deleting these files from the camera memory/SD
card, delete using the camera functions?

Canon camcorders offer both the functionality to erase all the files on a storage device, or to reformat or "initialize" the storage device. It really doesn't matter which you use, as the effect should be the same. The only time you really need to use the "initialize" function is when somehow the contents of the card have become messed up or changed outside the camera, and the camera may not know exactly what to delete anymore.
post #3115 of 3808
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Originally Posted by El Barto View Post

Any downsides to using a third-party BP-819 battery in the Canon HF10 besides the lack of battery meter? There's quite a few options on eBay for a quarter of the price, and I'd love to save some money on that. There's even one battery that has a built in meter on it.

I have no problem with e-bay batteries.
One interesting piece of information:
The charger that came with it blew after a while. I emailed them asking to take my word for, it rather than me sending it back, as the freight costs more than the charger. They emailed me back offering to send a new one free of charge but I have to pay the freight. I have accepted and ordered some more batteries at the same time.
post #3116 of 3808
Quote:
Originally Posted by El Barto View Post

Any downsides to using a third-party BP-819 battery in the Canon HF10 besides the lack of battery meter? There's quite a few options on eBay for a quarter of the price, and I'd love to save some money on that. There's even one battery that has a built in meter on it.

You will find more information here.
post #3117 of 3808
Quote:
Originally Posted by El Barto View Post

Any downsides to using a third-party BP-819 battery in the Canon HF10 besides the lack of battery meter? There's quite a few options on eBay for a quarter of the price, and I'd love to save some money on that. There's even one battery that has a built in meter on it.

My logic is even if the batteries are not as good at the price savings you could go through multiple of the generics before reaching the costs of the Canon OEM. So I am willing to loose out on the onboard battery meter to save some money. With that said their was one brand I stumbled on with Ebay that assuming the website is offering true information seemed like the brand that worth going with. Look for Upstart branded batteries.
http://www.upstartbattery.com/

The website claims they only purchase their batteries from manufacturers that have contracts with the big name brands. I figure this at least gives them an edge on having better quality than just some random china made battery.
post #3118 of 3808
got a HF 10 really great camera only thing I realized is that i cannot film in 4:3 is that right. I think this is not good especially for skaters like me because you get so much more on your footage if your using a fisheye with 4:3...
PLZ tell me if thers ANY possibilty to change the format to 4:3, it surprises me that you can photograph in 4:3 but not shoot films in that size.
(sorry for bad english)
greetz Mosaiq
post #3119 of 3808
Quote:
Originally Posted by MOSAIQ View Post

got a HF 10 really great camera only thing I realized is that i cannot film in 4:3 is that right. I think this is not good especially for skaters like me because you get so much more on your footage if your using a fisheye with 4:3...
PLZ tell me if thers ANY possibilty to change the format to 4:3, it surprises me that you can photograph in 4:3 but not shoot films in that size.
(sorry for bad english)
greetz Mosaiq

These are HD format cameras, and they shoot video in 16:9 aspect ratio at HD resolution, plain and simple. You can lower the bitrate / switch to anamorphic widescreen (1440x1080) but not change that aspect ratio (in the camera).

There's good news for you though, and that's that the resolution is so much higher than anything you could ever approach on old school DV. With previous cameras you've used, it might have seemed crazy to just crop out the frame, but in this case that's exactly what I'd suggest you consider.

Shoot in 16:9 but compose your shots for 4:3, and when you import and edit your footage, just chop the sides off (very easy to do in most software). The resulting image should still look fantastic compared to whatever you were using before, especially on an HDTV.

Heck if you want, tape a little cardboard matte to the top of your LCD and flip it down over the screen when you shoot if that helps.

Just my $0.02 of course.
post #3120 of 3808
I am torn between the HF100 and HF200. I have a baby coming in 4 weeks and need to decide soon.

Are there reasons I should choose a HF100 over a HF200 or vise versa?
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