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post #1261 of 1568
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Originally Posted by Ken.F View Post

I tried doing the firmware update. I downloaded it and put it on a CD-R and it ran. After it was finished I had to force it into the initial setup routine by holding the channel up and down buttons at the same time. After scanning all the channels again still no ABC or CBS. It acts the same way. Then I decided to put the firmware update CD back in the tray to see if it would give me the " UNSUP PORT" message. The firmware update ran again. When it was finished I had to force the initial setup again with the channel buttons. I just got done scanning the channels again and it's still the same, no ABC or CBS.

I think the Parental Controls menu is different now. I recall the parental controls being set at "level 8" or something like that and now it has totally different options. I may be remembering that menu on another piece of equipment but I don't believe that is the case.

Since I didn't get the "UNSUP PORT" status on the second go it makes me wonder if the firmware update program is installing one update per session. If there are several updates to complete does the update process need to be repeated until the "UNSUP PORT" message appears? I don't want to keep running the firmware update if it isn't doing anything.

Ken

Did you pull the AC plug after running the firmware upgrade?
post #1262 of 1568
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Originally Posted by jjeff View Post

Yes the Insignia and Zenith CECBs are one in the same, I own both.
Neither have the S-video output so the quality isn't up to the standards of something like a CM-7000(which I also own several) but they are about as good as composite gets.
To bad the reset work for you, I thought for sure it would since I had the same problem with my EZ-28 which is very similar to your EZ-48v.

OK, thanks.

I did some messing around with the converter box. I had the aspect ratio settings all messed up. It looks much better now, but nothing to brag about.

Ken
post #1263 of 1568
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Originally Posted by DigaDo View Post

Did you pull the AC plug after running the firmware upgrade?

Yes, for about 45 seconds.

Ken
post #1264 of 1568
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Originally Posted by Ken.F View Post

Thank you for the speedy reply.

I did do a re-scan (although my menus look slightly different). The channels show up in the list and are enabled but when I try to tune to those channels I get a "no signal" message. Both EZ48s do the exact same thing. The correct station ID label shows up in the channel list and I think it also shows up with the channel number in the onscreen message box. I have it on the antenna right now but I can swap it to cable and re-scan it again if you want me to. It's odd that those channels do work on the TV's tuner and the TV tuner is getting it's cable feed passed through the EZ48.

The EZ48 will tune in the expected channels when I hook the antenna up and re-scan the channels, It just doesn't get all of the ones I should be getting on the cable feed.

Ken

Sigh..more EZ series weirdness. Ok, let's try this...
Since you are seeing those MIA channels when you go into the Set Channels Manually menu screen (and yeah, the pics in my post are from an EZ47, that's why the video window is absent), this time, how about deleting one of them, and see what happens.
-Turn the ez48 to the missing/blank ABC station.
-With it set of that station, go into setup, and enter Set Channels Manually tab.
-Arrow over and Delete the channel-you'll still see the active feed in the preview window
-Exit Setup

Press either ch up or down to move from the ABC ch. Now go back into setup and re-add the channel

It's a shot in the dark. Maybe it'll turn on something in the tuner...Clearly, it's receiving a signal for those 2 stations. I'm at a loss at understanding why they won't come in when directly tuned.

Out of curiousity, can you go into the Schedule menu. Attempt to set a timer recording. Set the ez48 first on a channel next to one of the missing, then click Schedule to set a recording. The video window will show the current ch...
Now move to set the ch input to the missing ch-does it show up active there (in the video window) too? Go ahead and schedule a short timer recording on it just to see what happens.
post #1265 of 1568
OK, I'll give that a try. I'm back on the antenna right now and it's currently recording but there's only about a half hour remaining on the last event for the evening.

I just printed out your instructions. My TV is also my computer monitor and I'm too old to remember all that.
post #1266 of 1568
Forgive me for being a real dummie-- but is there some way to record sound from a TV show for replay on my car CD player?

I can record OTA or DirecTV programing. One of my favorite shows has music I would love to hear in my car.
post #1267 of 1568
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Originally Posted by rb cline View Post

Forgive me for being a real dummie-- but is there some way to record sound from a TV show for replay on my car CD player?

I can record OTA or DirecTV programing. One of my favorite shows has music I would love to hear in my car.

Does your TV or audio receiver have a headphone jack? You could go from the headphone jack to the microphone input of your sound card. If you use Windows you can make a recording with sound recorder and save it as a .wav file. I think you can then open the wav into media player and burn an audio cd from that. Maybe.
post #1268 of 1568
Unfortunately Panasonics and most other DVDRs don't record to CD, only DVD.
A few older DVD recorders did record to CDs but I don't know if any recorded in the CD format, it was VCD(video on CD) format which also wouldn't play on your CD only player.
As KenF said you'd either need to use your PC or even a standalone CD player(which are even rarer than DVDRs). I haven't seen a consumer standalone CDR for years and even years back they weren't that popular.
post #1269 of 1568
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Originally Posted by Westly-C View Post

Sigh..more EZ series weirdness. Ok, let's try this...
Since you are seeing those MIA channels when you go into the Set Channels Manually menu screen (and yeah, the pics in my post are from an EZ47, that's why the video window is absent), this time, how about deleting one of them, and see what happens.
-Turn the ez48 to the missing/blank ABC station.
-With it set of that station, go into setup, and enter Set Channels Manually tab.
-Arrow over and Delete the channel-you'll still see the active feed in the preview window
-Exit Setup

Press either ch up or down to move from the ABC ch. Now go back into setup and re-add the channel

It's a shot in the dark. Maybe it'll turn on something in the tuner...Clearly, it's receiving a signal for those 2 stations. I'm at a loss at understanding why they won't come in when directly tuned.

Out of curiousity, can you go into the Schedule menu. Attempt to set a timer recording. Set the ez48 first on a channel next to one of the missing, then click Schedule to set a recording. The video window will show the current ch...
Now move to set the ch input to the missing ch-does it show up active there (in the video window) too? Go ahead and schedule a short timer recording on it just to see what happens.

I tried everything you said. Things didn't improve.

I went in and deleted 3-1 from the list. I had to skip forward 10 pages before I got to the next working channel (10-1) and got picture in the preview window. I went back to the deleted 3-1. The preview window went dark. I added 3-1 and the preview window stayed dark.

With a DVD-RAM in the drive I set up a timed event to record 3-1 on DVD for the current time, set to record for three minutes. Then I turned the recorder off. As soon as it went off it turned back on to record. The display said U99. That didn't look right to me so I shut the recorder off with the front panel power button, waited a few seconds, then turned it back on. I immediately went to the schedule and deleted the record timer event. I went into direct navigator. The two other recordings that were on the DVD-RAM before I tried this are still there but the test recording isn't. I tried to tune in NBC on 10-1 but it won't come up now as well as several of the other channels that worked on QAM before. I haven't gone through them all but it doesn't look good.
post #1270 of 1568
After the U99 error and losing all of the cable channels I did a channel up/down buttons reset and ran the setup again. It gets all the channels except for ABC and CBS again.

I'm done trying. I'm going to return this one tomorrow and start reading the HDD DVDR sticky. I have a feeling this experience won't go to waste having another EZ48 in the house. I like it but if it doesn't work properly I see no point in keeping it beyond the store's 30 day return period.

Thank you all for helping.

Ken
post #1271 of 1568
^^I'm glad the unit came back to it's functional state after all that. Sorry for the scare, I would've been sick if my suggestion resulted in permanent damage.
If you paid full price for it, I'd definitely take it back while it's still under warranty and get the cheaper Maganavox 2160 hdd recorder. Refurbished units can be found for $159 at J&R Online, and at full price at Walmart Online for $198.
post #1272 of 1568
I wasn't scared a bit. You didn't ask me to do anything unusual, it was simply making adjustments in the menus that the manufacturer gave us to use.

Thanks for your help and the hdd recorder info. I'll check those sources out.

Ken
post #1273 of 1568
I've had an EZ485V for a couple of years and used it fairly regularly since the switch to digital signals. (No cable, I just record local over the air stations.) I've had a few lockups, cured by unplugging the unit, and a couple of failure to record incidents, but it has worked pretty well for the most part. Now it is starting to skip as it records. By the end of an hour of recording, it will have lost 2 to 3 minutes of programming. On playback, there are little skips in the program. Is this a dirty spindle? Thanks for any advice. I'm new to the forum. Also, how do I get firmware updates?

Thanks,

Don
post #1274 of 1568
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Originally Posted by blkvsn View Post

Is this a dirty spindle? Thanks for any advice. I'm new to the forum. Also, how do I get firmware updates?

Hi Don. Have you tried using a new DVD for recording?

The firmware update is at the Panasonic support website here.
post #1275 of 1568
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Originally Posted by blkvsn View Post

On playback, there are little skips in the program. Is this a dirty spindle? Thanks for any advice..... Also, how do I get firmware updates?...

Usually a dirty spindle will identify itself by a loud grinding noise when first inserting a recordable DVD, editing a DVD(changing thumbnails, titles, etc.) or particularly finalizing a DVD. From your description I don't believe a dirty spindle is causing your problems. More than likely your problems are part of the general flakieness of the EZ-48v That or some less common problem. A spindle also doesn't usually get dirty for closer to the year point.
AFA firmware updates, you could certainly try doing that but personally I've never had a firmware update correct any of the bugs or quirks of the EZ line, maybe you'll have better luck.

You also didn't say what kind of media you're using but you might want to try switching to something like Verbatim or Sony and see what happens.
post #1276 of 1568
jjeff,

I just noticed your link to all the Panasonic recorders and features of each. This must have taken you a long time to compile. Thanks for the informative posts. This is a great forum. I just purchased the DMR-48VK, even after reading about all the problems. It's frozen up on me 2 or three times, but thanks to the posts, it was easy to fix. I also updated the firmware. It took, even though I don't know what the unit came with.

Mark
post #1277 of 1568
My post in this thread from thirteen months ago is just as relevant today:

"Panasonic EZ series combo recorders are not at all well suited for folks wishing to time-shift their regular shows and copy videotaped recordings to DVD. Folks wishing to time-shift TV shows should sign up with cable or satellite services that provide simple to use DVRs. Folks wishing to copy videotaped recordings should connect their old trusty VCR to a DVD recorder or HDD/DVD recorder for that purpose.

"Some may expect EZ series combo recorders to function as did the VCRs of yesterday—an impossibility. You’re welcome to give it a try—just be sure to share your findings with others.

"I well remember several posters asking “which would you purchase?” with the choices limited to an EZ series combo recorder and a __fill in the brand and model___. Usually, in those instances, I suggested a Philips or Magnavox HDD/DVD recorder. In a few instances I admitted that the Panasonic EZ combo recorder is the better of two unsatisfactory machines. Some fortunate users have satisfactory service from EZ series combo recorders, many do not.

"EZ series combo recorders (DMR-EZ48V, DMR-EZ485V, DMR-EZ37V, DMR-EZ47V and DMR-EZ475 combo recorders--did I miss any?) are better suited for use by hackers and uber-geeks. Regular folks that insist on using these machines may experience a great deal of frustration.

"I've posted so many descriptions of the some of the great older ES series Panasonics, even contrasting them with the later EZ series combo recorders that are the most bug laden of the EZ models that are already plagued with design flaws. Yet so many folks continue to buy these EZ combo recorders that I'm coming to the realization that addressing EZ series issues is an exercise in futility.

"I can no longer sugar-coat my advice that EZ series Panasonics are not really that bad. Well, EZ series combo recorders are that bad—don’t waste your time or money on them unless you enjoy frustration.

"What are the facts? Many EZ series combo recorder purchasers, some of them refusing to be confused by the “facts” presented in these pages, continue to spend around $300 to purchase EZ series combo recorders. Over the last two years many thousands of these EZ series combo recorders have been returned to the place of purchase as regular folks discover their purchase of an EZ series combo recorder is a mistake. A number of these EZ series combo recorders have found their way to Panasonic’s rebuilding operation in Mexico; and from there into the hands of a few Panasonic authorized online resellers offering them for around $150, with shipping. But even the Panasonic rebuilding facility can’t turn a sow’s ear into a silk purse. Most of the returned EZ series combo recorders make their way into the hands of liquidators listing them for sale on eBay. I well remember the hundreds, perhaps thousands of DMR-EZ48V (and other EZ series combo recorders) listed on eBay with a starting price of $20.98, including shipping. This was in the spring and summer of 2008.

"I have to admit to bidding on one or two of those EZ combo recorders--with a view to having spare DVD drives for my DMR-EZ28 and DMR-EZ17 models. I was (actually) relieved when these EZ combo recorders sold—to someone else--as I knew I would be tempted to set up an EZ series combo recorder for daily use—a horror story waiting to happen.

"Purchase EZ series recorders as an informed consumer, knowing the challenges you may face. My DMR-EZ28 is a “pretty good” DVD recorder as long as the scheduling workarounds are used. My DMR-EZ17 DVD recorders are, well . . . I wrote enough in the EZ17 thread and some topical threads for curious folks to read of my experiences with those models.

"With my five EZ series DVD recorders the challenge for me has been to keep them functional. At times I grow weary of this challenge. There was very little challenge with all but one of my 2005/2006 ES series machines—those outstanding machines always work well. The heyday of the great old ES series Panasonics, as with that of the VCR, has come and gone.

"The one lemon among my ES series machines was the DMR-ES40V. That 2005 machine had an operating system that served as the prototype for the operating system in use with, you guessed it, the EZ series introduced in 2007.

"Posters continue to seek out pre-purchase advice. I and others make every effort to respond with advice based upon personal experience. That advice is often ignored. Sooner or later those EZ series combo recorders show up on Craig’s List or eBay. We seldom hear back from those posters as they don’t want to admit that “we told you so.”
post #1278 of 1568
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Originally Posted by Mark33634 View Post

jjeff,

I just noticed your link to all the Panasonic recorders and features of each. This must have taken you a long time to compile. Thanks for the informative posts.

Mark

Your welcome, I frequently use it myself when I see a older Panasonic DVDR on Craigslist, pawn shop, etc.
Most information was obtained by downloading the manuals and checking features, specifications, pictures, etc.
post #1279 of 1568
In answer to Ken.F and jjeff, I have been using TDK DVD-Rs. Since the problem started, I have tried recording with three or four new DVDs. I typically lose 2-3 minutes per hour of recording. One disc that has five hours recorded, lost 13 minutes. Since I don't have cable, I need a DVD recorder with a tuner. Any other ideas? I looked at reviews of a Toshiba (I think) with a tuner, and it looked like it had just about as many problems as the Panasonic.

Thanks, Don
post #1280 of 1568
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Originally Posted by blkvsn View Post

Any other ideas?

Have you moved your television or recorder recently, or has there been any electrical items or power cords placed near the recorder about the time the trouble started? Electrical interference has been found to be the cause of this kind of trouble.

Overheating might do it too. Is it getting enough airflow? Is the cooling fan working?
post #1281 of 1568
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Originally Posted by blkvsn View Post

Since I don't have cable, I need a DVD recorder with a tuner. Any other ideas? I looked at reviews of a Toshiba (I think) with a tuner, and it looked like it had just about as many problems as the Panasonic.

Thanks, Don

For the most reliable tuner operation I'd suggest the Magnavox 2160a or it's replacement 513. Check out Wajo's sticky for a wealth of information.
Most Toshiba's I've read about are as flaky as the EZ Panasonics.
Another member(I believe Microlady) has posted good luck with a Toshiba model but had a different model before that was very problematic.
The Maggys have a HDD to record to first, which greatly decreases the chance of a failed recording. The Maggy has no VHS but some of Toshibas do, Microlady has a combo Toshiba.
post #1282 of 1568
Hello:
I apologize in advance for some very basic questions, but even you guys started from where I am now...a little lost but confident that with your help, I too can learn. "We are all smart, just about different things" (Mark Twain).

I just purchased a Panasonic DMREZ48VK DVD Recorder and need to hook up to a Time Warner HD cablebox (Scientific Atlanta). I followed the directions, but then ended up only being able to record from the channel selected on the cablebox. Then I split the cable before going to cablebox and connected one to the cablebox and the other to the DVD recorder. I am now able to record independently of the cablebox, but only receive non-HD channels 1-65 while, from the cablebox, I receive HD channels 200-1900. I thought that the digital tuner would be able to receive these channels. Obviously, I want it all to be received and recordable. I am aware that I cannot record in HD but I do want access to those channels.

Any patient help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. In return, I promise that once I become more versed in the technology, I will help the novice questioners at that time.
Many thanks.
post #1283 of 1568
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Originally Posted by Bosco15 View Post

Hello:
I apologize in advance for some very basic questions, but even you guys started from where I am now...a little lost but confident that with your help, I too can learn. "We are all smart, just about different things" (Mark Twain).

I just purchased a Panasonic DMREZ48VK DVD Recorder and need to hook up to a Time Warner HD cablebox (Scientific Atlanta). I followed the directions, but then ended up only being able to record from the channel selected on the cablebox. Then I split the cable before going to cablebox and connected one to the cablebox and the other to the DVD recorder. I am now able to record independently of the cablebox, but only receive non-HD channels 1-65 while, from the cablebox, I receive HD channels 200-1900. I thought that the digital tuner would be able to receive these channels. Obviously, I want it all to be received and recordable. I am aware that I cannot record in HD but I do want access to those channels.

Any patient help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. In return, I promise that once I become more versed in the technology, I will help the novice questioners at that time.
Many thanks.

These are the current realities with cable.

The only services that one may record through a DVD recorder's clear QAM tuner are those that are not scrambled. For the scrambled services one needs the cable company converter box. (It's the same situation with digital-tuner equipped TVs.)

As you've found, splitting the coax cable feed with one side fed to the converter box with the other side fed to the recorder's RF input allows one to tune/record a limited number of channels through the recorder's clear QAM tuner. Then, feeding the converter box S-Video output or composite video output (yellow) plus the white/red audio outputs to a recorder input allows one to record through that input whatever service is tuned by the converter box.

A future consideration is that many cable providers are in process of scrambling all but the "must carry" local broadcast stations, public access, government, various shopping services and a few other services.

This may not be what you hoped to find out but, as Walter Cronkite used to say, "that's the way it is."
post #1284 of 1568
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Originally Posted by DigaDo View Post

These are the current realities with cable.

The only services that one may record through a DVD recorder's clear QAM tuner are those that are not scrambled. For the scrambled services one needs the cable company converter box. (It's the same situation with digital-tuner equipped TVs.)

As you've found, splitting the coax cable feed with one side fed to the converter box with the other side fed to the recorder's RF input allows one to tune/record a limited number of channels through the recorder's clear QAM tuner. Then, feeding the converter box S-Video output or composite video output (yellow) plus the white/red audio outputs to a recorder input allows one to record through that input whatever service is tuned by the converter box.

A future consideration is that many cable providers are in process of scrambling all but the "must carry" local broadcast stations, public access, government, various shopping services and a few other services.

This may not be what you hoped to find out but, as Walter Cronkite used to say, "that's the way it is."

Look into Direct TV, does not scramble premium channels, never has don't think it ever will, 16x9 wide screen through S video output, great for DVD recording. If you get their DVR, then you have a hard drive from which to archive. Gives you a great opportunity to make great recordings on those pesky "EZ" recorders, and you have a videotape player to boot. I'm not affiliated with Direct Tv , I just enjoy their service.

Cheers
post #1285 of 1568
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Originally Posted by Bosco15 View Post

I followed the directions, but then ended up only being able to record from the channel selected on the cablebox.

Check your box's features closely to see if it has a "reminder" or "record to VCR" feature. That should give you at least basic channel-changing abilities.
post #1286 of 1568
OMG, I am about to cry. I had Dish network, and my connection was perfect from TV to Dish receiver Dvr to my Panasonic DMR-EZ48V. Also had it connected to my stereo speakers. All worked fine.

Just switched to directv today and they couldn't or wouldn't connect my panasonic dvd player/recorder. The installer told me to get two audio/video connectors and went to Radio Shack, got them and how he told me to connect it doesn't work. So now I cannot play dvds, cannot play my video tapes (hey, there are some old movies that are still not on dvd so don't ask me to give up vhs yet!) and I'm super annoyed.

The radio shack guy told me to take pics of the backs of all the devices which I have and am ready to go there to show him, but I really don't think I'll get that lucky and he'll have the solution.

For the old Dish receiver the dvd player was connected to the receiver and that's how I'm trying to connect the Directv HR24-100, but it just won't work.

Please help me, I'd appreciate any solutions.

BTW, I did search this forum for over an hour and didn't find my exact problem.
post #1287 of 1568
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Originally Posted by catchyoulater View Post

OMG, I am about to cry. I had Dish network, and my connection was perfect from TV to Dish receiver Dvr to my Panasonic DMR-EZ48V. Also had it connected to my stereo speakers. All worked fine.

Just switched to directv today and they couldn't or wouldn't connect my panasonic dvd player/recorder. The installer told me to get two audio/video connectors and went to Radio Shack, got them and how he told me to connect it doesn't work. So now I cannot play dvds, cannot play my video tapes (hey, there are some old movies that are still not on dvd so don't ask me to give up vhs yet!) and I'm super annoyed.

Theoretically, all that should have been done is simply swap the DirecTV box into the same position the Dish box occupied. So, you'll need to look at the back of the DTV box and see how many output jacks there are. You should have 1 set of video and audio cables-component cables are the red-green-blue, plus red/white audio, going from the box to the tv. A 2nd set of those, or an s-video cable plus red/white audio, from box to dvd recorder.
From the ez48, run component, s-video, or the composite cables-yellow video, red/white audio from the 48 to the back of the tv.
And if the jacks are there, audio cables from the DTV box to your stereo. Or audio out from the tv. if it's an HDTV.

The installer should not have left you in a lurch this way.
post #1288 of 1568
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Originally Posted by catchyoulater View Post

...BTW, I did search this forum for over an hour and didn't find my exact problem.

Whenever searching AVS be sure to set the "Display Options," (toward the foot of the first page in a sub-forum--the "thread list" page), back more than "last month" in order to find earlier discussions.
LL
post #1289 of 1568
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Originally Posted by Westly-C View Post

Theoretically, all that should have been done is simply swap the DirecTV box into the same position the Dish box occupied. So, you'll need to look at the back of the DTV box and see how many output jacks there are. You should have 1 set of video and audio cables-component cables are the red-green-blue, plus red/white audio, going from the box to the tv. A 2nd set of those, or an s-video cable plus red/white audio, from box to dvd recorder.
From the ez48, run component, s-video, or the composite cables-yellow video, red/white audio from the 48 to the back of the tv.
And if the jacks are there, audio cables from the DTV box to your stereo. Or audio out from the tv. if it's an HDTV.

The installer should not have left you in a lurch this way.

I agree! I had him call his supervisor and I called customer support! but they were telling me this was standard installation which didn't include hooking up my dvd player/recorder!! And the installer seemed baffled as to how to hook it up!!! Just unbelievable! (and forgive me, I know it's not PC, but he didn't speak very good English so I had a really hard time communicating with him) He kept telling me the HD hookup wouldn't allow for the dvd player/recorder to connect.

I will try your suggestion tomorrow. I can upload photos of the backs of the equipment, altho you know what the Panasonic looks like. I took the pics to Radio Shack and of course the guy tried but had no clue.
post #1290 of 1568
It would help most if you said what inputs/outputs your TV had as well as your new Direct STB. I would agree with Westly except if your TV is HD (and has a HDMI input) I'd run that directly from your EZ-48v to your TV. Oh and if your Direct box is HD and has a HDMI or DVI output I'd also run that direct to your TV. Note if your Direct box has DVI output you'll probably need a DVI to HDMI adapter(and L&R audio cables) since few TVs have a DVI input. Component is fine but with just the one small cable HDMI is handier, if using HDMI/DVI you don't need to use the component cables but still need to use S-video or composite from your Direct box to your EZ-48v.
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