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post #811 of 1568
From your post it sounds like you have a) an outdoor antenna, and b) no converter box?.
-First, you'll need to rescan the channels on the ez48. It's digital tuner will allow you to receive the over the air signals from your local tv stations.
-Yes, the ez48 needs to be turned off in order for timer recordings to be made. You can only watch the channel that's being recorded when it turns on.
Ideal setup would be if you had a converter box, you could watch a separate channel on it over the tv, while the recorder runs, recording another channel.

-Note, digital channels CANNOT be recorded to the VCR side. Only to the dvd side. So keep a DVD-RAM disc-good for simple timeshifting of shows you'll only want to watch and erase, or DVD-RW disc, good for recording to and then finalizing-which makes them playable on a separate dvd player in another room, before erasing to record something new on them.

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If I break down and get cable, although hate to pay $25 per month to make it easier to record ( I get good reception) can I use the panasonic to record on vhs and dvd with cable

Yes, cable systems are required to continue sending analog signals that tvs without digital tuners can receive. The ez48 will tune in those analog chs allowing you to record them-to both the vcr and dvd sides, while watching another channel on the tv.
post #812 of 1568
Without reading all 28 pages can someone answer the following questions for me.

When comparing the LG RC897T to this unit which would you prefer.

What I want to do is record stuff from my DVR to DVD and convert old football games from VHS to DVD. That's all I really need it for.

Thanks in advance.
post #813 of 1568
Most members on this forum are not fans of LG DVDRs. Personally I had a LG combo a few years back and I didn't like it's recording quality. Others have reported a abnormally large number of problems with LG DVDRs, so I really wouldn't suggest one.
From your description I'd really try and find a EA-38v. It's similar to the EZ-48 but lacks the tuner and many of the bugs in the EZ-48. True the EZ-48v is much easier to find and you may even find it for a similar price as the EA-38 but if you're just recording from a DVR and VHS to DVD you don't really need the tuner anyway.
Here's a link to the much smaller EA-38v thread.
post #814 of 1568
Unfortunately because of a situation I am in I have to buy it from Best Buy and they only have the 48 and the LG in. Picking between those two I would assume you think the 48 is better? Thanks again.
post #815 of 1568
That's really a hard choice. While I really like the recording quality of the Panasonics and their FR mode, their bugs really bother me. I really don't know about the current LGs(mine was a digital tunered combo model of about 3 years ago) other than the problems some have posted here at AVS. If recording quality(mostly in speeds between 2+hrs and 4hrs/disc) weren't your #1 priority I'd almost steer you towards the LG. Hopefully someone who owns one of the current LGs will chime in, but I have had personal experience with the EZ-48v and it's bugs makes it something I just can't recommend without real reservations.
I would more recommend the EZ-28 and maybe tie a VCR/DVD player combo to it. That way you could not only duplicate VHS tapes but non copy protected DVDs also. You'd probably only need a couple cables between the two and personally I think you'd have better luck than the combo DVDR route. Of course you'd need the room for two separate components and it might not look as neat as one combined unit. The EZ-28 I had worked quite well. BB sells the EZ-28 and I'm sure several VHS/DVD players.
post #816 of 1568
The only good thing about the LG's IMO is that they have IR blasters.

But then again, so do the Panny EA-38 and EA-18.

The LG's only have composite in - just so you're aware (the Panny's have s-video in).
post #817 of 1568
Ok, I finally got the thing to tape , but the tv screen was blank so I could not watch the program I was taping , what did I do wrong,. The only way I could watch the tv was to cancel the recording, The old days, with the same recorder, I could watch and tape (granted on vhs)
My wife is real unhappy
I do have a zinwell converter box not hooked up yet, that would really confuse her with 3 remotes
by the way, what are the bugs jjef is talking about so I am on the lookout for them.
and yes I am attic antenna which is bringing in the channels pretty well
I am also running into a scheduling problem, I want to tape channel 5.1 nbc but the recorder wont let me entr that number, it keeps defaulting to 7.1

I may just have to pop for a digital tv to keep the wife happy-then can I watch one station and tape another?
post #818 of 1568
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Originally Posted by seniorguy View Post

Ok, I finally got the thing to tape , but the tv screen was blank so I could not watch the program I was taping , what did I do wrong,. The only way I could watch the tv was to cancel the recording, The old days, with the same recorder, I could watch and tape (granted on vhs)
My wife is real unhappy
I do have a zinwell converter box not hooked up yet, that would really confuse her with 3 remotes
by the way, what are the bugs jjef is talking about so I am on the lookout for them.
and yes I am attic antenna which is bringing in the channels pretty well
I am also running into a scheduling problem, I want to tape channel 5.1 nbc but the recorder wont let me entr that number, it keeps defaulting to 7.1 . . .

Westly-C suggested rescanning your channels. This is especially important as some broadcast channels “virtual channel” assignments changed on June 12th.

There may be other issues concerning the particular DMR-EZ48 outputs you are using. If you are using the composite outputs (yellow, white and red) you may find better results using the "common" composite output. If you are using the threaded RF output you should be aware that upon power-up the RF output is unmodulated--meaning that the machine is only "passing through" the signal from the RF input--any signals generated within the machine itself are not present on the RF output until it has been modulated. One quick way to modulate the RF output is pressing the SCHEDULE button twice. Another way to modulate the RF output is pressing PLAY if a videotape is present in the VHS mechanism or a DVD (with earlier recorded titles) is present in the DVD Drive.

If you are attempting to record "digital signals" to videotape you should realize that is not possible--there is no on-board decoder for that purpose. "Digital signals" may be recorded only to DVDs. With a Zinwell converter box connected to a DMR-EZ48 input you may record the Zinwell's analog output to videotape through the input.

The common workarounds for EZ series scheduled recordings are these:

1-Schedule all recordings with actual dates. Avoid scheduling recurring recordings such as Mon-Fri, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Saturday-Sunday, etc.

2-When scheduling a recording in the early a.m. hours (say between midnight and 6:00 a.m.) schedule a brief "dummy recording" from 11:59 p.m. to 12:01 a.m. ahead of early a.m. recordings in order to defeat the "Midnight Bug."

There are a variety of situations where EZ series machines will lock up, requiring a variety of reset methods. One reset method uses the small recessed RESET button behind the fold down door on the front panel.

I find the most annoying lock-up occurs when the EZ machine attempts to initiate a timer recording. The machine normally "wakes up" a minute or so prior to the scheduled recording and goes into the Pause mode. It is at the point of the machine's transition to Record mode that the machine may randomly lock-up. The EZ machine appears to be recording but the front panel counter remains at 00:00:00 and the machine is unresponsive to front panel or remote buttons. To regain control press the RESET button and wait a minute or two while the machine returns to "normal." (LOL?)

Some other bugs and design flaws are related to the front panel control start/stop method of copying videotapes with the built-in VHS section. The creation of new “titles” at videotape index marks and overlapping material recorded at the beginning and ending of DVD “titles” results in DVD recordings that are beyond crude. The user has very little control over the copying process using the built-in VHS section. As someone with a great deal of dubbing/copying experience (5,200 titles) I regard such machines as the DMR-EZ48 as unsatisfactory for dubbing/copying videotapes to DVD using the built-in VHS section. Better results may be had attaching a VCR to an input and copying videotaped material from the input. (My earlier posts in this thread go into more detail as to the grief the DMR-EZ48 user experiences when attempting to copy videotaped recordings to DVD with the built-in VHS section.)
post #819 of 1568
ok, good info but confusing . I have the same situation
I am using the red white yellow and the coax
so why again can I not see the show I am recording?
and yes one time i guess it did lock up because nothing was happening
thought I programed wrong and yes unfortunately after I bought it I found out you cannot record to vhs SO If I connect a converter box to the dvd recorder and to the tv, how do I connect all this, do I need a splitter for the antenna to be able to watch a different channel then recording
post #820 of 1568
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Originally Posted by winniepoah View Post

ok, good info but confusing to this 80 year old
I am using the red white yellow and the coax
so why again can I not see the show I am recording?

With analog broadcasting gone, we can no longer record one channel while turning the tv over to another channel to watch something else-unless your tv has a digital tuner that's connected to an antenna. Now, with the ez48, you'll need to turn the tv to ch 3, or the tv's line inputs to view the feed from the 48. And the ez48 will need to be set to enable the signal to be viewed on ch3 when it's turned on/and playing back.

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unfortunately after I bought it I found out you cannot record to vhs SO If I connect a converter box to the dvd recxorder and to the tv, how do I connect all this, do I need a splitter for the antenna to be able to watch a different channel then recording

I think it goes like...
-Antenna to splitter
-splitter out to both ez48 & converter box
-converter box to tv
-ez48 to tv inputs

ez48's has it's own digital tuner, which will allow you to set timer recordings, while watching a different channel on the tv thru the converter box.
post #821 of 1568
Hi, I am stuck again
I programed a show and watched it but when the recording finished it shut the dvd recorder off. Is there anyway to keep it on so as to continue to watch the tv or do I have to turn it back on every time?
I cannot find this in the manual

2nd question- when I asked comcast cable if I got cable, they said that the digital vcr would not work properly. Is this true, or do they mean that you cannot watch a different show then what you are recording. I am so confused. All my neighbors and friends are old and dont understand this either and the younger set all have cable so no one to come and help.

the back of my tv has one set of yellow red white connections and a coax
So if I got a converter box to hook up also to be able to watch one show and tape another with the EZ can that work with what I have?
post #822 of 1568
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Originally Posted by seniorguy View Post

Hi, I am stuck again
I programed a show and watched it but when the recording finished it shut the dvd recorder off. Is there anyway to keep it on so as to continue to watch the tv or do I have to turn it back on every time?
I cannot find this in the manual

When recording starts, just press the power button...that will turn it 'on' so to speak, so it doesn't turn off at the end on the programmed timer recording. Don't worry, the program will continue to record.
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2nd question- when I asked comcast cable if I got cable, they said that the digital vcr would not work properly. Is this true, or do they mean that you cannot watch a different show then what you are recording. I am so confused. All my neighbors and friends are old and dont understand this either and the younger set all have cable so no one to come and help.

'Con-cast' or Crock-cast, is nutz. Regular basic cable will continue to allow older tvs, vcrs, and dvd recorders to work as normal. Analog basic cable means you will still be able to run a cable line to the recorder, then from recorder to tv, and set the vcr/dvd recorder to tape one ch, while you watch another channel on the tv, same as we've always done. The digital conversion affects people who only get tv signals from over the air broadcasts.
TV Stations are no longer transmitting an analog tv signal, while cable systems are continuing to send out their programming in analog form for basic cable, while offering digital cable tiers to people with hi definition tvs.

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the back of my tv has one set of yellow red white connections and a coax
So if I got a converter box to hook up also to be able to watch one show and tape another with the EZ can that work with what I have?

The converter box will have a silver coax RF jack that goes out to the tv's coax RF input jack. Use the tv's yellow red white connections for the ez48.
post #823 of 1568
I'm new to DVD recorders. I just bought a EZ485 today. Despite previously downloading and reading the manual, it took me hours to get it set up. It was mostly my fault. I stuck in a new DVD-RAM, the unit wanted to format it, and I thought I gave it the go ahead, but it was doing nothing for about an hour and a half (the manual said it could take 70 minutes). Once I figured out what I did wrong, it formatted in about 30 seconds.

But here is my issue... I made a couple of test recordings on the DVD-RAM, just a few minutes long. I played them back a few times getting familiar with the options. At one point I was playing them back, and none of the remote buttons would work. I also could not turn it off using the power button on the unit. The recordings continued to play until it got to the end of the last recording which just froze on the screen. I had to press the reset button to get everything working again. So now I'm concerned since the unit was only in use a few hours, and had a new disc. Why did it freeze up?

I did some Googleing, and it seems like all DVD recorders from all the manufactures freeze up. What is going on?
post #824 of 1568
The EZ line of dvd recorders-those with digital tuners in particular, are infested with a maddening array of design bugs that drive most of us...well, buggy. The freeze up you experienced is one of them.
post #825 of 1568
(Sorry for the name change, I couldn't find my previous id yesterday).

Would you recommend that I take it back and get something else? I need some kind of multi-event recorder with a digital tuner as a VCR replacement. I don't want to subscribe to cable or TIVO service, and that's the only way to get an HD based DVR. There are bad reviews posted for every product I've ever looked into (not limited to electronics).
post #826 of 1568
They all have problems. FWIW, I've been happily using my 48 for a long time now and still think it's the best of its kind currently available. But for an everyday DVR, I'd go for an HDD based model like philips/magnavox.
post #827 of 1568
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Originally Posted by Jeff L View Post

Would you recommend that I take it back and get something else? I need some kind of multi-event recorder with a digital tuner as a VCR replacement. I don't want to subscribe to cable or TIVO service, and that's the only way to get an HD based DVR. There are bad reviews posted for every product I've ever looked into (not limited to electronics).

Panasonic EZ series combo recorders are not at all well suited for folks wishing to time-shift their regular shows and copy videotaped recordings to DVD. Folks wishing to time-shift TV shows should sign up with cable or satellite services that provide simple to use DVRs. Folks wishing to copy videotaped recordings should connect their old trusty VCR to a DVD recorder or HDD/DVD recorder for that purpose.

Some may expect EZ series combo recorders to function as did the VCRs of yesterday—an impossibility. You’re welcome to give it a try—just be sure to share your findings with others.

I well remember several posters asking “which would you purchase?” with the choices limited to an EZ series combo recorder and a __fill in the brand and model___. Usually, in those instances, I suggested a Philips or Magnavox HDD/DVD recorder. In a few instances I admitted that the Panasonic EZ combo recorder is the better of two unsatisfactory machines. Some fortunate users have satisfactory service from EZ series combo recorders, many do not.

EZ series combo recorders (DMR-EZ48V, DMR-EZ485V, DMR-EZ37V, DMR-EZ47V and DMR-EZ475 combo recorders--did I miss any?) are better suited for use by hackers and uber-geeks. Regular folks that insist on using these machines may experience a great deal of frustration.

I've posted so many descriptions of the some of the great older ES series Panasonics, even contrasting them with the later EZ series combo recorders that are the most bug laden of the EZ models that are already plagued with design flaws. Yet so many folks continue to buy these EZ combo recorders that I'm coming to the realization that addressing EZ series issues is an exercise in futility.

I can no longer sugar-coat my advice that EZ series Panasonics are not really that bad. Well, EZ series combo recorders are that bad—don’t waste your time or money on them unless you enjoy frustration.

What are the facts? Many EZ series combo recorder purchasers, some of them refusing to be confused by the “facts” presented in these pages, continue to spend around $300 to purchase EZ series combo recorders. Over the last two years many thousands of these EZ series combo recorders have been returned to the place of purchase as regular folks discover their purchase of an EZ series combo recorder is a mistake. A number of these EZ series combo recorders have found their way to Panasonic’s rebuilding operation in Mexico; and from there into the hands of a few Panasonic authorized online resellers offering them for around $150, with shipping. But even the Panasonic rebuilding facility can’t turn a sow’s ear into a silk purse. Most of the returned EZ series combo recorders make their way into the hands of liquidators listing them for sale on eBay. I well remember the hundreds, perhaps thousands of DMR-EZ48V (and other EZ series combo recorders) listed on eBay with a starting price of $20.98, including shipping. This was in the spring and summer of 2008.

I have to admit to bidding on one or two of those EZ combo recorders--with a view to having spare DVD drives for my DMR-EZ28 and DMR-EZ17 models. I was (actually) relieved when these EZ combo recorders sold—to someone else--as I knew I would be tempted to set up an EZ series combo recorder for daily use—a horror story waiting to happen.

Purchase EZ series recorders as an informed consumer, knowing the challenges you may face. My DMR-EZ28 is a “pretty good” DVD recorder as long as the scheduling workarounds are used. My DMR-EZ17 DVD recorders are, well . . . I wrote enough in the EZ17 thread and some topical threads for curious folks to read of my experiences with those models.

With my five EZ series DVD recorders the challenge for me has been to keep them functional. At times I grow weary of this challenge. There was very little challenge with all but one of my 2005/2006 ES series machines—those outstanding machines always work well. The heyday of the great old ES series Panasonics, as with that of the VCR, has come and gone.

The one lemon among my ES series machines was the DMR-ES40V. That 2005 machine had an operating system that served as the prototype for the operating system in use with, you guessed it, the EZ series introduced in 2007.

Posters continue to seek out pre-purchase advice. I and others make every effort to respond with advice based upon personal experience. That advice is often ignored. Sooner or later those EZ series combo recorders show up on Craig’s List or eBay. We seldom hear back from those posters as they don’t want to admit that “we told you so.”
post #828 of 1568
I basically agree with everything Digado said, the last Panasonic combo(with a tuner) worth owning (IMO) was the '06 line including the ES-35v and ES-45/6v. Unfortunately none contain the digital tuner that so many(including me) want. The digital tuners started in '07 along with all the bugs. You can hook a digital to analog converter box to a old analog combo but that's not nearly as handy as a all-in-one unit like a combo. After all I would think most people buying a combo do so because they want the simplicity of just one device. Unfortunately no such reliable device exists
I still hold out hope for the tunerless EA-38, we just don't get nearly the problems reported with those but I hope it's not just because the EA-38 is sold in such small quantities compared to the EZ-48v that a lack of complaints is taken as good.... Of course again the EA-38 lacks the digital tuner, which many people probably want
post #829 of 1568
According to cnet the ez28k is the sister of the 48 without the vhs drive
What are your thoughts on this one. It appears to be $20-30 cheaper then the other
I do have other vcrs, just thought an all in one was less bulky when wanting to play a tape but if it has a better track record I will go with the 28
post #830 of 1568
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Originally Posted by bmfot View Post

According to cnet the ez28k is the sister of the 48 without the vhs drive
What are your thoughts on this one. It appears to be $20-30 cheaper then the other

FYI the ez485 is on sale at Costco until 7/5, for $230.

The only difference I can see between the 48 and th 485, is that the 485 includes an HDMI cable.
post #831 of 1568
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Originally Posted by Jeff L View Post

FYI the ez485 is on sale at Costco until 7/5, for $230.

The only difference I can see between the 48 and th 485, is that the 485 includes an HDMI cable.

Costco is allotted model numbers generally exclusive to them. The 48VK and the 485VK are the same unit, yes, the only difference is the HDMI cable added.
post #832 of 1568
When I posted above that I was looking at this unit vs the LG, I had no idea what the Copyright protection was. Now I do. I was able to record some football games off my DVR to a DVD, but went to record the Lakers parade from Fox Sports to DVD and got the protection block. I'm going to go back and read this thread to see if the Panny has the block.
post #833 of 1568
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Originally Posted by Kinsella5 View Post

Costco is allotted model numbers generally exclusive to them. The 48VK and the 485VK are the same unit, yes, the only difference is the HDMI cable added.

I think that is done to exempt other stores with price matching policies from having to match Costco's prices. They can claim that it is a different model.
post #834 of 1568
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Originally Posted by Jeff L View Post

Would you recommend that I take it back and get something else? I need some kind of multi-event recorder with a digital tuner as a VCR replacement. I don't want to subscribe to cable or TIVO service, and that's the only way to get an HD based DVR. There are bad reviews posted for every product I've ever looked into (not limited to electronics).

CitiBear has addressed your situation in this post:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...5#post16676375

The best method to transfer videotaped recordings to DVD (using a currently available product) is with a Magnavox H2160MW9 HDD/DVD recorder. Connect a VCR to an input, dub the material to hard drive, edit the material (if you like) and high-speed dub the material to DVD.

I own the similar Philips 3575 and 3576 models as well as the Magnavox 2080 and 2160 models. I have found these outstanding HDD/DVD recorders to be very reliable. I may purchase another Magnavox 2160 for daily use as I remove problematic EZ series Panasonics from service.

A wealth of information concerning these Philips and Magnavox HDD/DVD recorders may be found in Wajo's sticky thread:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=940657
post #835 of 1568
Should the fan be running when the unit is turned off (but set for quick start)? I just noticed a motor running sound coming from it, and the back is a little warm. I haven't had it on since yesterday morning.


Edit - Ok, this is weird. After posting this, I checked it out again, and it was quiet, but still warm in back. Does the fan kick on intermittently?
post #836 of 1568
It is very possible tha the fan is controlled by a temperature sensor and is independent of the machine being powered on or off. If it is warm, the fan will go on. Your hand is unlikely to be able to tell the difference between on and off for a thermocouple.
post #837 of 1568
Panasonic EZ recorders do weird things. They will start up on their own at various times, the display may change to cascading 000000 and at times the display may go away completely. This is all normal operation for the EZs, well as normal as the EZs get I agree with Church that a thermocouple may be starting the fan for heat reasons you can't feel from the outside.
post #838 of 1568
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Originally Posted by Jeff L View Post

Should the fan be running when the unit is turned off (but set for quick start)? I just noticed a motor running sound coming from it, and the back is a little warm. I haven't had it on since yesterday morning.


Edit - Ok, this is weird. After posting this, I checked it out again, and it was quiet, but still warm in back. Does the fan kick on intermittently?

I like to consider Quick start mode to be akin to Sleep mode on a pc. Essentially standby mode... So the circuits can become warm because it's in a low power mode and the fan comes on to cool them, especially if there's a disc inside with timer recording set. .
post #839 of 1568
The back was definitely warm (not hot) to the touch. I thought I heard the fan running again, but my ears were playing tricks on me, the noise was coming from outside the house. Anyway, I decided that I really don't need it to power up within a few seconds, so I shut off the Quick On feature. Now the back is cool to the touch.
post #840 of 1568
When the unit has Q.S. enabled it draws as much power as leaving it ON all the time. While 17 watts may not sound like much, multiply that by 24X7 and it's a power line vampire Besides Q.S. really only makes the 2 seconds to record time valid if you use RAM discs. Using R or RW discs it still takes closer to 30 seconds to record.
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