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post #3211 of 3525
3/6/12 at 7:55am
Thanks for the insight on the carpet install. I am not to that phase yet but I guess that it is never too early to start thinking about it.

The final goal of the thread that I linked to is to have all of the segments on a 50GB blu-ray disc but for now each individual segment (bass disc, animation disc, and music disc) can be burned to a dual layer DVD, one segment per disk. Some players are a little finicky and have trouble playing it but that is discussed in the thread.

Edit: Just reread your previous post and see that you are using an upconverting DVD player. Yeah it won't work with that but still might be a good option someday if you have some blank DVD's lying around since the blu rays can get expensive.
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post #3212 of 3525
3/6/12 at 7:57am
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[edit] must have cross posted your edit! [/edit]

Yes, but I'm not using a Blu-ray player at the moment. It's the upconverting DVD player I use out on the deck in the summer.
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post #3213 of 3525
3/6/12 at 8:03am
Bravo. Looks great and a long time coming.
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post #3214 of 3525
3/6/12 at 8:50am
Tom:

I have all of the old SD demo disks. I think there were 30 of them. Let me know which one you want and I'll drop a private torrent out for you.

You could always head down to WalMart/Target and pick up a cheap BR player for less than $60. Why fool with SD material when you can go BLU!?!

Also, I hear that the folks from Oppo are waiting for your call. They have a new -93 waiting for you!
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post #3215 of 3525
3/6/12 at 9:15am
I picked up the Panny 210 for upstairs, its no oppo, but it has a nice collection of streaming sources that it can access, built in wi-fi, etc for $130 (amazon). Worth the premium over a generic $60 special. If the oppo is out of reach.
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post #3216 of 3525
3/6/12 at 9:29am
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Originally Posted by dc_pilgrim View Post

I picked up the Panny 210 for upstairs, its no oppo, but it has a nice collection of streaming sources that it can access, built in wi-fi, etc for $130 (amazon). Worth the premium over a generic $60 special. If the oppo is out of reach.

I'll second on the Panny 210. I picked mine up for $120 at Costco around Christmas, and it is a bargain for what it does. Fast, good upconvert, great media access and wireless. I wouldn't fool with DVDs at all anymore.

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Originally Posted by tlogan6797 View Post

I figure I'll hold on to the rest of the pad in case of another you-know-what.

Just don't store it in the basement
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post #3217 of 3525
3/6/12 at 11:03am
My jaw is still on the floor! Farkin' outstanding, Tom.
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post #3218 of 3525
3/6/12 at 11:11am
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OK, OK, calm down everyone.

I HAVE a Sony 3D BluRay player hooked up in my living room. And the Denon 3806. I'm just not ready to pull that setup apart yet. It's all programmed on my Harmony remote so the LOGANESS can go in there press "Watch TV."

I mainly wanted to check out the speaker setup and get an early impression of the results of all of sound proofing effort. That how I found out I'm having a hard time terminating that coax. I'd rather find out now than when I have all of the good stuff down there. So I figured if I could get one or two of the demos, it would be easier than swapping and queuing up disks.
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post #3219 of 3525
3/6/12 at 11:34am
Logan,

WOW - I can't believe we are at this point. It looks great.
Nice job on the carpet!!
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post #3220 of 3525
3/6/12 at 12:15pm
Nice job Logan. You've made a ton of progress in a short time. Hopefully you can keep up the pace but I'm skeptical with the projector up.
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post #3221 of 3525
3/6/12 at 12:32pm
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The bigger problem will be the short break I have to take before starting the bar area finish. Namely, fixing that hole in the kitchen ceiling, installing the new lights and painting the kitchen, and family rooms.
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post #3222 of 3525
3/6/12 at 4:51pm
I have quite a few of the demo disks so will bring them along.

I may have a couple of RG6 F connectors but I just used the compression ones from Homr Depot.
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post #3223 of 3525
3/7/12 at 5:14am
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That would be cool. Everything little thing helps!

Brit - PM me with an ETA!
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post #3224 of 3525
3/12/12 at 6:48am
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Just a little no-pic weekend update (maybe a pic or two tomorrow night).....

BritInVA stopped by Saturday afternoon with his coax connection kit and a couple of the DVD demos.

First we tried to terminate the in-wall coax for the sub. Turns out, I was using the wrong crimper on the connectors. Brit didn't have the RIGHT connectors. Between us, we made one good connection!

So we fired up the LFE demo he brought. I had it cranked. War of the Worlds was AWESOME. Then the next clip starts and there's no sound. Go back reset the amp. Can't get through more than 1 complete clip. So after Brit leaves, I play around with it and dial it back some, and I can get through all of the clips!

The Pulse was just CRAZY! That SVS is moving some air. The walls and floor are shaking!

I am now officially the "Open Concept Room IS Worth Effort" guy. From now on, whenever I see the argument that doing all of the soundproofing that is normally done for a dedicated room is NOT worth the effort, I'll be there. I'll be there when the floor shakes and the walls vibrate. I'll be there whenever the wife says, "It sounded like distant thunder." I'll be there....
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post #3225 of 3525
3/12/12 at 7:32am
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Originally Posted by tlogan6797 View Post

I am now officially the "Open Concept Room IS Worth Effort" guy. From now on, whenever I see the argument that doing all of the soundproofing that is normally done for a dedicated room is NOT worth the effort, I'll be there. I'll be there when the floor shakes and the walls vibrate. I'll be there whenever the wife says, "It sounded like distant thunder." I'll be there....

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post #3226 of 3525
3/12/12 at 8:04am
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Ah, you young kids today. THIS is what I had in mind.....

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post #3227 of 3525
3/12/12 at 8:18am
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Oh, and one other thing I forgot.

Yesterday was pretty much shot with the time change. By the time we got up, got going, went ran a couple of errands and finished lunch it was 3:15. We decided to take the dog to the park (it WAS 65 degrees here yesterday, afterall!) at 4:00, so not much got done in the basement.

However, after we got back from the dog park, I took my Roku down there to see if I could get a signal. That thing fired right up, so I streamed Netflix and watched some stupid documentary about Disney for an hour.
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post #3228 of 3525
3/12/12 at 4:56pm
Tom,

How hard/hot were you running the sub? I would guess pretty hot to get it to shut down, just curious as I perused several sub threads when I was trying to "settle" on a sub to go with. I don't distinctly remember the 20-39 having any issues such as you describe. I am always amazed how good subs energize the room, really makes the LFE an experience for sure.

Glad that you are still making progress and are able to enjoy the theater some, it sure has taken us long enough to get to this point for sure.

Regards,

RTROSE
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post #3229 of 3525
3/13/12 at 5:58am
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HOT hot. So I dialed it back and it seems fine now. I'll do a better calibration when I get the REAL equipment down there.

....at least we can see the end!
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post #3230 of 3525
3/13/12 at 5:59am
Think issue was to do with the receiver not being able to handle the sub. Dont think will be issue when he moves his Denon downstairs.

Room is looking nice....... Was not going to mention your crimping skills (or lack of)
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post #3231 of 3525
3/13/12 at 6:50am
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That's possible, too. I had the receiver set to "powerful" sub and backed it up to "strong" and set the gain on the sub back from 100 to about 75 or 80.

HEY! It's not my fault they changed the style of connector so that my crimper doesn't match any longer. The connections I made with the old style connector and crimper worked fine.
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post #3232 of 3525
3/13/12 at 7:10am
OK, I am officially confused.

If Tom is using coax to connect the sub, that implies that it is a powered sub, thus the gain of the sub wouldn't affect the amplifier at all.

Tom, you should be setting a cutoff so that low frequencies cut off from the mains, especially since the mains are small bookshelves. Figure a cutoff frequency around 100 Hz. That older receiver probably has a setting for the mains listed as "Large" or "Small" or something similar. Setting it to "small" will help a lot.

I think the problem is too small an amplifier feeding inefficient main speakers, and has nothing to do with the sub (but you already knew that)
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post #3233 of 3525
3/13/12 at 7:19am
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Mains are Axiom M60s, not small bookshelves. Sub is SVS 20-39 with 350w Bash amp. So, yeah, it's POWERED.

As I said, I dialed back the amp sub setting from "powerful" to "strong." And even though it IS a 1K watt total receiver, I think it weighs about 5 pounds. As opposed to the 30 or that the Denon weighs.

I'm good for now; I'm getting through all of the LFE clips without an issue and the room is still pressurizing, so it's all good.
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post #3234 of 3525
3/13/12 at 8:37am
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Originally Posted by tlogan6797 View Post

HEY! It's not my fault they changed the style of connector so that my crimper doesn't match any longer. The connections I made with the old style connector and crimper worked fine.

Hmmm...
We see yet again, that, since beginning this build...obsolescence has set in.
Tom, I am amazed that you were able to get acoustic treatments on cave walls...
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post #3235 of 3525
3/13/12 at 10:09am
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Here's your Neaderthal Handy Help Around Cave Tip for today.....

Use a little spit and some saber tooth tiger sinew to attach acoustic treatments to your Cave. And remember, the fresher the sinew, the better it sticks! And don't forget to use the rib bones to, uh, "attract" the the female of your choice. Unless she already belongs to Oog. He gets really clingy to his females. Not that there's anything wrong with that. I mean, have you ever noticed that he's always "sick" on Hunt Day? You'd think he could at least help drag the mastadon home. But NOoo...it's always "My back hurts from all this standing upright!" or "Mastadon, AGAIN? Why don't we gather some fruit once in a while?" Not that there's anything wrong with that, either. I'm just sayin'.
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post #3236 of 3525
3/13/12 at 10:50am
From what little I know about this, it's still highly recommended to set you mains as "small." From what I remember that sets the crossover to 80 Hz or so, which is what you want to help prevent bass localization. Small is not really intended to be a slight to your mains, just an indication that they don't have a 15" driver in them.

I'm still learning quite a bit about this, so the consensus may very well have changed. But you've got that beauty of a sub, so let it do the heavy lifting At any rate, it might be worth a shot once you get to the fine tuning.
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post #3237 of 3525
3/13/12 at 12:01pm
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Ah. I DO remember that now that you mention it. Not sure if this crappy little receiver can set to small/large as it is a HTiB. Which I would THINK is probably set to small due to the included tiny little speakers. I'm not that worried about it until I get the Denon down there.
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post #3238 of 3525
3/13/12 at 12:26pm
Definately look at BatPig's Denon setup guide. I think he recommends setting the speakers to "small" when using Audessy.
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post #3239 of 3525
3/13/12 at 1:10pm
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Originally Posted by tlogan6797 View Post

Here's your Neaderthal Handy Help Around Cave Tip for today.....

Use a little spit and some saber tooth tiger sinew to attach acoustic treatments to your Cave. And remember, the fresher the sinew, the better it sticks! And don't forget to use the rib bones to, uh, "attract" the the female of your choice. Unless she already belongs to Oog. He gets really clingy to his females. Not that there's anything wrong with that. I mean, have you ever noticed that he's always "sick" on Hunt Day? You'd think he could at least help drag the mastadon home. But NOoo...it's always "My back hurts from all this standing upright!" or "Mastadon, AGAIN? Why don't we gather some fruit once in a while?" Not that there's anything wrong with that, either. I'm just sayin'.

ROFL...
Just checking...was THIS your crimp tool?




In all seriousness...The M60's are 8ohm, so the load to a typical receiver should be nominal. I am not sure if a cheap htib would have a different rating (capable ohm load?) or not... (12...16?)
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post #3240 of 3525
3/13/12 at 4:24pm
Think tom was crimping with a mallet :-)

Basically Tom was crimping a compression fitting. There I sold him out :-)
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