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post #3481 of 3639
I can't help with the glue question, but that bar looks amazing! Great job, Tom!
post #3482 of 3639
Bummer about the glue spots - they're not heinous, but I can see how they'd bother you. I'm no woodworker - at all - but I have a brown belt in Googling. Looks like the glue has sealed the wood, preventing it from taking any stain. Options are few (and none is perfect) but include sanding with rough grit (not finer than 150) and restaining - just a feathered spot treatment - and/or applying a top quality (pro brand) gel stain, perhaps in a slightly darker shade. It is also suggested by some that you could try soaking it in water to raise the grain and reopen the pores.

I got all those possible tips from this link. http://lumberjocks.com/topics/4983
Edited by HopefulFred - 4/2/13 at 10:46am
post #3483 of 3639
Thread Starter 
Thanks guys. I'll check out that link, I just haven't had a chance to do any googling since the weekend. I'm thinking maybe trying one of those wax scratch cover pencils and if I can at least draw in some grain lines, it won't be so noticible.
post #3484 of 3639
Thread Starter 
OK, on fixing the glue stained issue...

I couldn't find my dental pick to try to scratch out some grain lines. I KNOW I have one, I have NO idea where it got to. I guess that wherever I find all my tools I'll find all those missing socks, too.

So I went with option two: I sanded an area just a little larger than the glue spots and restained over it. It took a couple of tries as I kept wiping it back off as I tried to blend it in. So I stained a little larger area in order to blend in the stain better. What I ended up with was a DARKER spot, but it is NOT the first thing you see (OK, it's not the first thing I see) anymore. If anything, it makes the bar look somewhat worn. Which is actually OK by me.

I also had to touch up a few other areas on the back bar and the candy cabinet, and I've been leaving 24hrs dry time, so that took up Saturday.

Sunday I put the first finish coat on the bar and back bar. I WANTED to do the candy counter but found some areas that had to be touched up, so that one has to wait. Here's a shot of the corner of the "fixed" bar rail. I tried to match the angle of the picture with the white spots.

BEFORE:


AFTER:


Other corner of the bar.


And, oh yeah, one other thing I forgot about....I needed to make the sliding doors for the back of the candy cabinet. Since Sunday was the cabinet touch up day and the weather was nice, I set up the table saw in the driveway and cut and stained the two doors. And I even remembered to stain BOTH sides!
post #3485 of 3639
That's some top-notch work. I don't see any faults in your reworked version at all!
post #3486 of 3639
Thread Starter 
Thanks! To be honest, the light IS a little different in the pics, but you DO have to look at it to see it now and that's really all I was after. And I noticed the frst coat of the finsh helped smooth out a LOT of little things as well.
post #3487 of 3639
Looks awesome to me, Tom. I don't know about you, but it almost causes me physical discomfort NOT to point out mistakes in my work to others. It's an effort for me to just say, "thanks" when someone compliments something I've done instead of, "yeah it's alright, but look at this 1/32" gap that I left over here."

I think anyone that sees that bar in person is going to be duly impressed! Just bite your tongue, and say thanks smile.gif
post #3488 of 3639
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Just bite your tongue, and say thanks

Thanks.

And good advice.
post #3489 of 3639
The stain (and patch job) look excellent, nice progress.
post #3490 of 3639
Nice job Tom.
post #3491 of 3639
Looks great, Tom! Those angles are easy to cut...if you have plenty of caulk and are painting them! Staining is another whole ballgame...and yours look great! The other trick to staining many kinds of wood is to wet it -- wipe it down so it is damp but not wet then stain. The moisture opens up the grain and lets it accept stain better and more uniformly.

Are you using a gel or liquid stain?
post #3492 of 3639
Looks good, but instead of you pointing out your flaws, I'm sure the Loganess will be more than happy to point them out to you or is that for you? I know Mrs. RTROSE doesn't have a problem pointing out my flaws. biggrin.gif Now if we are talking about flaws in the work we do then that is a little different. tongue.gif

I think part of us pointing out flaws to others is to keep from feeling that sub par emotion if someone points it out to us first. Just a thought.

Love the color of the stain, very classy.

Regards,

RTROSE
post #3493 of 3639
Thread Starter 
Thanks guys!

It IS coming out quite nicely.

Johnsteph -

I'm using gel stain and a wipe on finish. The thing I noticed about using gel stain is that it does not penetrate the wood like a water based (i.e, Minwax) stain. The stain kind of sits on top of the wood. altlhough, the oil seals the pores. After wiping on the stain, I found it easy to buff off more than you intended and it will leave a light spot. IF you go back and apply more stain over it right away, it can be fixed. If you wait, that spot doesn't take the stain the same way. Now, the nice thing is that becasue it doesn't penetrate too deeply, it is very easy to sand back to bare wood. The other thing I'm learning is not to over sand the peice. It seems that up to 180 grit is enough.

So far, I've noticed using the wipe on finish that is is quite easy to put on a thin coat. I'm planning three coats for the skin and trim of all the pieces and five for the bar and drink rails.

RT -
Quote:
I think part of us pointing out flaws to others is to keep from feeling that sub par emotion if someone points it out to us first. Just a thought.

That pretty much sums it up!

I was MUCH happier with the color once that first coat of finish went on. It DEFINITELY gave it a richer look.
post #3494 of 3639
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Originally Posted by J_P_A View Post

Looks awesome to me, Tom. I don't know about you, but it almost causes me physical discomfort NOT to point out mistakes in my work to others. It's an effort for me to just say, "thanks" when someone compliments something I've done instead of, "yeah it's alright, but look at this 1/32" gap that I left over here."

I think anyone that sees that bar in person is going to be duly impressed! Just bite your tongue, and say thanks smile.gif

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Originally Posted by tlogan6797 View Post

Thanks.

And good advice.


Oh, I see what happened there. I didn't mean say thanks to me. I meant to guests that might come see you bar. I bet my posts sounded a bit pretentious, I didn't intend for that.......... Oh never mind. I'll put my shovel away smile.gif

It looks great! I'm taking notes for my next wood working project.
post #3495 of 3639
Thread Starter 
J_P - no worries. MY answer was a joke....see I CAN say "Thanks" and then shut up. See? THAT'S what happened there. Guess it didn't translate on paper the way it did in my head. And let's not get into my head, it's already quite crowded......
post #3496 of 3639
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Originally Posted by tlogan6797 View Post

And let's not get into my head, it's already quite crowded......

post #3497 of 3639
Thread Starter 
Shameless bump.

Put one more coat of finish on all of the skin and trim woodwork. TWO more coats on the bar and drink rails. This makes 2 coats on the skin and trim and 4 on the rails. Planning one more coat all the way around to end up with 3 on the skin and trim and 5 on the rails. Then on to tiling!

No pics as everything looks EXACTLY the same, only, um, shine-ier.
post #3498 of 3639
Nice work! I love it all.....
post #3499 of 3639
Thread Starter 
OK, time for a couple of pics....

It's not that I haven't been doing ANYTHING......

A couple of weekends of some yardwork slowed me down a bit. Oh, and I had to remake those candy cabinet doors. I cut the dang things an inch too short! That was just too much to try to fix so I remade them. And then I realized I had a couple of trim pieces that I forgot to stain so I did that, too. Then I realzed I had to order the granite tile I wanted, so that was another weekend. FINALLY got all the tile and this past weekend, I cut and dry-fit ALL of it! And my back is KILLING me! About 6 hours on Saturday to do the bar and another 2 on SUnday to do the back bar and shelf tops.

My neighbor has a wet saw but apparently the rip fence is platic and a POS, so he didn't even give it to me. That actually turned into a good thing. I had to measure and mark every tile on the bar except three. I went through almost an entire roll of painter's tape. So they all came out great. And I only "wasted" 2....one broke and I mis-cut one, which I was able to reuse in other areas as smaller pieces. I ended up with very little wastage. Probably, the largest piece was the cutoff corner.

Here's the bar top...12"x"24" tiles....


the back bar....yes, I screwed up the order. I had to order these 18"x18" tiles from a different place and THOUGHT I was ordering the same thing, but it's different. But it will be fine.


Shelf behind the bar....


Future storage cabinent/media shelving



Expecting next weekend to set and grout the tile.
post #3500 of 3639
What will you do with yourself once you get all this finished smile.gif

Looks great! I'm seriously digging that bar!
post #3501 of 3639
Thread Starter 
LOGANESS says she wants the deck enclosed......Is there a Dedicated Deck Enclosure & Construction forum?
post #3502 of 3639
Hey gang. Just doing my annual check in to see what (if any) progress Tom has been making.

/waves

Michael
post #3503 of 3639
Thread Starter 
MICHAEL! Good to hear from you! Stick around a while and catch up! I blew the driver on that sub...had to replace it, but it's back up wokring great again! Check a few pages back. Everything else is working fine. I'm actually making SOME progress!
post #3504 of 3639
Quote:
Originally Posted by tlogan6797 View Post

LOGANESS says she wants the deck enclosed......Is there a Dedicated Deck Enclosure & Construction forum?
Nope, but there is a shed building forum around here somewhere... biggrin.gif
post #3505 of 3639
Thread Starter 
OK, updated pics.....

Set and grouted the granite tiles. I haven't caulked the corners yet, so they still look a little rough.

Bar top....


Bar work surface....


Shelf behind bar....


Back bar....


Storage cabinet
post #3506 of 3639
Looking nice Tom. The granite and wood colors compliment eachother nicely.
post #3507 of 3639
Thread Starter 
Thanks! I'm liking the way it's turning out.

Now I can move on to setting the sink and finish caulking and trimming out the rest of it. Then make a door for the equipment closet and some shelves. Put an actual door leading to the mechanical room. Get my buddy to help with the carpet/laminate transition, then the floor.

I also think I need to go back and repaint....I've been making a mess of the walls. I used the flat paint. I think I'll go over it with a slight finish in that part of the room so that it can take at least SOME touching.

At least now it's looking like smaller projects.
post #3508 of 3639
Looking awesome! You're making progress regardless of what dimension you're in smile.gif
post #3509 of 3639
Great progress! The colors and materials are really coming together nicely. This looks great!

Now, for some perspective: Your first post was on 4/2/2008. We are now 5 years and 27 days from that date and over 3500 posts. Who wants to place bets on when Tom will be finished? cool.gif
post #3510 of 3639
Making some good progress. What trim piece are you going to use for the edge of the tile/drink rail?
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