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post #31 of 105
RCA has not been a company for many years. It is just a brand.
post #32 of 105
Thanks for the correction MikeBiker. I update my post for the benefit of those in the market for an STB: "It seems to me that a 'brand' that has been around as long as RCA should have these issues figured out."

Dave Wilks
post #33 of 105
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Originally Posted by davewilks View Post

I just purchased a DTA800B1 using the $40 coupon from wal-mart this morning. The device works great EXCEPT that I am unable to program the STB remote to work with the RCA model T09081BC 9" TV/VCR combo manufactured 1999. I have tried all 30 codes provided in the STB manual for RCA TVs at least two times each with no joy.

This TV/STB combo is in a guest room so I guess I will have to write a little instruction manual telling my guests to use the "little RCA remote" to turn the STB box on and off and to change the channels and to use the "big RCA remote" to turn the TV on and off and to change the volume or the mute the TV.

It seems to me that a company that has been in business as long as RCA should have these issues figured out.

Dave Wilks

Can the old RCA remote control a satellite box? If so, It might be able to control the box. If not, you can probably find an inexpensive universal remote and still end up paying less than other converter boxes. (Just be sure you can return any remote you buy if it does not work with either one.)
post #34 of 105
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Originally Posted by DD210 View Post

Can the old RCA remote control a satellite box? If so, It might be able to control the box. If not, you can probably find an inexpensive universal remote and still end up paying less than other converter boxes. (Just be sure you can return any remote you buy if it does not work with either one.)

The remote that came with the TV/VCR is not programmable. But, I had a Sony Directv box that I used with it and the remote that came with DTV box was programmable and worked with the TV/VCR.

I have found two RCA support sites, one for the DTA800B1 and one for RCA TVs. I have contacted each stating the problem hoping for an answer. If either responds with a code that works, I will post it here. Otherwise, I will wait a week or so and if the problem is not solved I will try to find a universal that will work.

Thanks for the response.

Dave Wilks

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Update:

Here is what I sent to the support address provided in the DTA800B1 User manual on July 7:

RCA Customer Support:

I just bought an RCA DTA800B1 - Digital to Analog Converter Box to work with my RCA model T09081BC TV/VCR purchased
in 1999. I am unable to program the remote that came with the STB to work with the TV/VCR. I have tried all 30 of the codes that are specified in the user manual at least twice.

Is there a 3 digit code that will program the remote to work with this TV?

If there is not, is there an RCA universal remote that will work with both?

Thank you for your support and making RCA "The most trusted name in electronics".

Dave Wilks

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This is the response that I received on July 17:

Dear Customer,

We have try our best to list all the codes in the manual.

Please do not create a new mail for reply.

James
Customer Services
Venturer Electronics Inc.
james@18002526123.com
post #35 of 105
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Originally Posted by davewilks View Post

Thanks for the correction MikeBiker. I update my post for the benefit of those in the market for an STB: "It seems to me that a 'brand' that has been around as long as RCA should have these issues figured out."

RCA stood for Radio Corporation of America, created by General Electric after GE bought out American Marconi. RCA then went on to found the National Broadcasting Company (NBC). After David Sarnoff became chairman of RCA, he engineered the purchase of Victor Talking Machine Company. RCA (Victor) became involved in consumer hardware manufacturing, and that is the company that you recall. In the early days of color television, the two biggest names were RCA and Zenith. Neither company exists as a corporate entity today.

In 1986 RCA was taken over by General Electric and NBC reverted to being a subsidiary of General Electric. The RCA brand for consumer electronics was sold to Thomson SA of France. (Similarly, the Zenith brand was sold to Lucky GoldStar -- now LG Electroniics -- of Korea.)

Thomson SA has been around for awhile, but a brand in and of itself cannot know anything, nor is it able to figure issues out.

That said, we used out government coupon today to purchase an RCA DTA800B1 in Wood Village, Oregon. All things considered, it seemed to be the best use of our coupon, which was due to expire in fewer than ten days. We have not hooked it up to our analogue television set yet, and will report in due course, after we have, about joys and sorrows of the unit.
post #36 of 105
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Originally Posted by cia_viewer View Post

I do not have an RCA.

My Zenith DTT901 has an excellent thermal design:
1) ventilated with plenty of perforations top, bottom, left & right.
2) metal case (aluminum?)
3) black case for good radiation
I have started keeping it powered up continuously and it stays cool.

How is the RCA DTA800b1?

A while back someone spoke of earlier DTA800s running hot.

Does the new DTA800b1 run hot or is it cooler?
post #37 of 105
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Originally Posted by kumo View Post

. . .
to purchase an RCA DTA800B1 in Wood Village, Oregon . . .

This evening I checked the Walmart in Wood Village and all they had were DTA800B, no B1's.
Can you share your secret?
post #38 of 105
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Originally Posted by hardly View Post

This evening I checked the Walmart in Wood Village and all they had were DTA800B, no B1's.
Can you share your secret?

Did you call on the telephone or go in person?

I found a shelf with perhaps a dozen boxes of DTA800's. About a third were DTA800, about a third were DTA800B, and about a third were DTA800B1; they were jumbled together in random order. They all were offered for the same (pre-coupon) price: $49.87 (or $9.87 after coupon). Of course, I selected a DTA800B1, but I did so without assistance from the salesperson.
post #39 of 105
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Originally Posted by kumo View Post

Did you . . .

Thanks for sharing.
post #40 of 105
Is the DTA800b1* remote the same size as the DTA800, DTA800b remote(with big buttons)?
post #41 of 105
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Originally Posted by DITTOTEX View Post

Is the DTA800b1* remote the same size as the DTA800, DTA800b remote(with big buttons)?

Appears identical.
post #42 of 105
Are there any indications on the outside of the box.
I really don't want to annoy, pester, ... the people at the store
by opening all the boxes, 40 or so (which All say DTA800B).

Thanks,
Merle
post #43 of 105
Unlike prior renditions of the DTA800, the RCA DTA800B1 is in a different box. The older units all had "DTA800" on the boxes and only the small type under the SN/bar code had the A or B designation. The new box says "RCA Digital Converter" and has DTA800B1 written on it. It also says "Analog Pass-through" on it. The box is identical on each side except one side is written in Spanish.
post #44 of 105
I bought the RCA DTA800B1 yesterday. Generally satisfied with it. Some thoughts.

Pros

Big Button Remote
Ease of Use/Menus/Setup
Built in swivel out vertical stand
Operating buttons on front of unit as well as remote
Smart Antenna Interface
Numerical Antenna Signal Meter with Audio que as well
Image quality seems good

Cons

Remote seems to want to be directly aimed at the unit to work
Tuner is less sensitive than my Vizio GV42LF
Cant change channels directly in the Signal Meter

Im very curious to learn about directly adding channels without a channel scan.
post #45 of 105
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Originally Posted by EscapeVelocity View Post

I bought the RCA DTA800B1 yesterday. Generally satisfied with it. Some thoughts.

Pros

Big Button Remote
Ease of Use/Menus/Setup
Built in swivel out vertical stand
Operating buttons on front of unit as well as remote
Smart Antenna Interface
Numerical Antenna Signal Meter with Audio que as well
Image quality seems good

Cons

Remote seems to want to be directly aimed at the unit to work
Tuner is less sensitive than my Vizio GV42LF
Cant change channels directly in the Signal Meter

Im very curious to learn about directly adding channels without a channel scan.

I don't have the unit available to give exact instructions and I am stating this from memory. Under the setup menu, there is an option to add channels without deleting prior scans. It's the second option. There is no way to add one channel at a time. It can only rescan without deleting prior channels found.
post #46 of 105
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Originally Posted by EscapeVelocity View Post

I bought the RCA DTA800B1 yesterday. Generally satisfied with it. Some thoughts
....

Remote seems to want to be directly aimed at the unit to work....

I don't know if it makes any difference or not, but did you remove the clear protective plastic from the front of the unit?
post #47 of 105
I think you may be on to something.
post #48 of 105
Comparison of Zenith DTT901 VS RCA DTA800B1:

The Zenith DTT901 is better overall, but the RCA may be easier for some people. Below are just a few of the more important differences.

Advanced features are accessible from buttons on the remote with the Zenith, but you must use the menu to access these features on the RCA. Someone who is not likely to use any of these features will like the RCA remote better because it has fewer buttons and larger buttons. ADVANTAGE: Zenith (unless you are technically challenged)

On the RCA, buttons controlling the TV are grey and buttons controlling the box are white. The only button on the Zenith to control the TV is a power button. ADVANTAGE: RCA

The RCA remote controls the volume on the TV. The Zenith remote controls the volume output from the converter box. ADVANTAGE: RCA

The RCA's remote control has a very convenient TV input button. Repeated pushing changes the TV channel to 3 then to 4 then to the line input(s). This is extremely useful if you really need analog pass-through. With the Zenith, you must use the TV remote to set the TV to the appropriate channel/line input for viewing programs from the box. ADVANTAGE: RCA

The RCA remote has significantly more TV codes than the Zenith. The Zenith only has 45. ADVANTAGE: RCA

None of the older remotes included with my televisions could control the Zenith. A few of them could control the RCA by programming them using RCA/Proscan satellite codes. ADVANTAGE: RCA

The DTA800B1 has the option to add to previous scans. With the Zenith, you can also add one at a time. ADVANTAGE: Zenith

I like the EPG on the RCA better, but both only show now/next and you must access the menu to view the RCA EPG. When you first change the channel on the RCA; it shows the channel number, what's on now, and what's on next. The Zenith only shows the channel number. Showing what's on now and what's on next helps when you are channel surfing, especially, if there is a commercial running when you first tune in. ADVANTAGE: RCA

The Zenith has more picture modes. This may not be as good for the less technically oriented. Also, I have noticed the Zenith cannot be set to different modes with certain transmissions/stations. This may be the rule rather than the exception when the final digital switch comes, therefore, this potential advantage of the Zenith may disappear. ADVANTAGE: Zenith (for now)

The Zenith color is less vivid when connected via the RCA plug. ADVANTAGE: Neither

The sound output on the RCA is slightly lower when hooked up to the RF cable then when hooked up to the line inputs. I did not notice this with the Zenith. ADVANTAGE: Zenith?

The Zenith appears to have better sensitivity than the RCA. For both units, I did a channel scan on an external antenna. The Zenith showed all channels found with two different old non-amplified antennas. The RCA would not show all channels with one of the two indoor antennas. Disclaimer #1: There may have been a difference in the quality of the signal being transmitted, because there was about a week interval between the time I hooked up the Zenith and the RCA. I did not recheck the Zenith's ability to show the channel on the same day I connected the RCA. Disclaimer #2: I never did scans with an indoor antenna, so I cannot state which unit is better or faster at finding stations during a scan. ADVANTAGE: Zenith?

The RCA needs to be on standby for a clear analog pass-through. If you unplug it, the signal is not as good. I found no difference with the Zenith unplugged or on standby. ADVANTAGE: Zenith

The Zenith has more ventilation and a solidly built metal enclosure. ADVANTAGE: Zenith

The RCA has a swivel out base so you can stand it on its side. This is a significant advantage if you have limited space. ADVANTAGE: RCA

If you are getting the box for someone who is technologically challenged, the RCA may be better. The remote is simple and the viewing modes are limited to a choice between the two screen ratios.

The Zenith seems better built and probably performs slightly better overall, but I still don't like the fact it's remote does not control the volume on the TV. It also includes A/V cables, the RCA does not.
The RCA is a good unit. It's decreased number of viewing modes and friendlier remote makes it ideal for someone who only wants to turn on the television, change channels and adjust the volume on the TV. It does not have a previous channel button on the remote, but most individuals who want just the basic features stated in the last sentence don't use that feature. Of course, none of this matters if the remote cannot be programmed for your TV.

COMMENT: An ideal remote control would have well defined buttons like the RCA, but give the option to control more advanced features. Why not design a remote similar to the RCA, but with a panel you could open to expose other buttons to control more advanced features?
post #49 of 105
Very helpful comparison, DD210. Now if only I could find one online or retail in the Chicago area!
post #50 of 105
Has anyone observed the following?
The picture of the DTA800B on amazon.com is actually a picture of the DTA800A. The back of the unit shows a punch out where the smart antenna port is on the DTA800B. What's really interesting is, on the back of both units, there is a punch out about the size of an S-video port. I wonder if there will be a DTA800B2?
post #51 of 105
I wish I could find these RCA CECBs here locally...but both walmarts I've been to only seem to have the Maganvox boxes...and for some reason the website wont let you see whether its in any other local stores.

I have two older RCA TVs that currently have APEX DT250s hooked up to them...one of them has an S-video port which makes for a decent picture, but the other one doesnt even have composite.

While the DT250 likely has a better picture, at least through the S-video port, the RCA would make things easier for not having to use two remotes(since I know the box remote would control the TVs). Since I have an RCA DVD player and VCR, I could likely use the 4 device universal RCA remote I already have and control them all. Too bad the boxes dont have an S-video port though...that would make them Trump the DT250 for sure,
post #52 of 105
Nwiser, Ill trade you a RCA DTA800B1 for one of your Apex DT250's.
post #53 of 105
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Originally Posted by DD210 View Post

The Zenith DTT901 is better overall, but the RCA may be easier for some people.

If Smart Antennas finally start showing up in retail stores, the DTA800B-1 may become a more attractive option.

My understanding is that very few of the original DTA800 models were actually shipped (they used a different tuning chip); Walmart mostly sold the DTA800B.

Have others experienced a computer-like "freeze-up" of the DTA800, requiring a shut-down and "reboot"? It was something that afflicted a DTA800B which I bought and returned in March, wonder if this is a common problem?
post #54 of 105
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Originally Posted by kumo View Post

RCA stood for Radio Corporation of America, created by General Electric after GE bought out American Marconi........In 1986 RCA was taken over by General Electric and NBC reverted to being a subsidiary of General Electric. The RCA brand for consumer electronics was sold to Thomson SA of France.

In an additional twist, in December 2007 Thomson SA sold off part (but not all) of the RCA consumer electronics business to Audiovox Corporation. This is from a January 3, 2008 press release at the Audiovox corporate web site:
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Audiovox Corporation (Nasdaq: VOXX) announced today that on December 31, 2007, it completed its acquisition of Thomson's Consumer Electronics Audio Video Business outside of Europe, including the worldwide rights to the RCA brand for consumer electronics audio video product lines except TVs and certain additional product categories.

Quite a few RCA product packages still identify the manufacturer as Thomson, but in many cases Audiovox is now the legal manufacturer of the RCA-brand product. Here is a web site for RCA-brand audio and video products produced by Audiovox Corporation. RCA-brand TVs sold in the USA appear to be produced by "TTE Corporation".

I know this corporate shuffling has been confusing to buyers of RCA products, particularly to seasoned long-term consumers who recall when the RCA Victor brand was billed as "the most trusted name in electronics". From About the RCA Brand,
Quote:
The RCA brand is licensed to third parties for televisions, car stereo equipment, microwaves and accessories by Thomson Inc., the world leader in digital video technologies. For more information on Thomson, go to: www.thomson.net

Here is an RCA History site.
post #55 of 105
i just got back from wal mart and they had a few 800b1's, but i just used my coupons for 2 800B's, what am i supposed to do, take them back, say something is wrong and get the b1's?
post #56 of 105
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Originally Posted by Z_MadDawg View Post

i just got back from wal mart and they had a few 800b1's, but i just used my coupons for 2 800B's, what am i supposed to do, take them back, say something is wrong and get the b1's?

Take them back, state you specifically want the analog pass-through model. You don't need to claim the units are defective, they just aren't what you wanted. Walmart is pretty good about accepting returns, in my experience. There is a risk, however, that the 800b1s will be sold out when you actually arrive there. People who read this forum are "on the prowl" for the 800b1.

While Walmart isn't the most elegant shopping environment, their return policies are much more straightforward than other retail stores.
post #57 of 105
DD210. Thanks for the great post #48. I have been recommending the DTA for exactly the reasons you state. Would you compare all the various closed caption options for us? I have a concern about the largest available font on the Digital Stream, and perhaps the Zenith is better.
post #58 of 105
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Originally Posted by seatacboy View Post

Take them back, state you specifically want the analog pass-through model. You don't need to claim the units are defective, they just aren't what you wanted. Walmart is pretty good about accepting returns, in my experience. There is a risk, however, that the 800b1s will be sold out when you actually arrive there. People who read this forum are "on the prowl" for the 800b1.

While Walmart isn't the most elegant shopping environment, their return policies are much more straightforward than other retail stores.

It's a little dicey, there, because Walmart will accept returns, but they can't give you back your coupons. The question is, will they allow exchanges for a different product?
post #59 of 105
Does the RCA B1 have box volume adjustment, or ONLY TV volume adj? The zenith has box volume and not TV volume, which is better for my old tv's. Can someone please see if the volume buttons control box based volume output? Thanks!
post #60 of 105
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Originally Posted by ellipsen View Post

Does the RCA B1 have box volume adjustment, or ONLY TV volume adj? . . .

The RCA volume adjustment is only TV volume.
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