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post #1651 of 5194
7/3/08 at 10:57am
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Originally Posted by Ktulu_1 View Post

Hauppauge.com is your best bet. If they're back ordered there, I would think they're back ordered everywhere.


Thanks! Just placed an order on hauppauge.com for a unit, and received an order confirmation. Not sure if that means they have any units in stock, however.
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7/3/08 at 11:00am
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Originally Posted by clemsonfn View Post

Thanks! Just placed an order on hauppauge.com for a unit, and received an order confirmation. Not sure if that means they have any units in stock, however.


Its about a 2-3wk lead time; expect an email from them
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post #1653 of 5194
7/3/08 at 12:59pm
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Originally Posted by MichaelLAX View Post

I don't watch any video from the Mac Mini/Windows machine. It is exclusively a front end for the HD-PVR. So I guess I have to leave the HD-PVR on 24/7 to be able to time record programs.

I have certainly turned mine off, then back on, then recorded with it, so you ought to be able to turn it off when not needed - as long as you have a way to turn it on again

I had a piece of av gear that ate a lot of power and was not used very often. I wound up with it on an X-10 appliance module (an addressable power plug, in effect) and using an IR-to-X10 unit (model IR543) to send the on/off signals to it, triggered by an IR blaster (USBUIRT) under control of the same sw that I use to wake up the PC when it has something to do. So when I was not using that device for a few days or weeks, I could manually trigger the power source off then my sw would turn it back on when it needed it.

I retired all that stuff recently; I considered using the same rig to turn my HDPVR off and on, but I decided that with the heat sinks, fan, and custom lid with airscoop, it was OK to leave it on all the time.
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post #1654 of 5194
7/3/08 at 1:04pm
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Originally Posted by the_tom View Post

I had a piece of av gear that ate a lot of power and was not used very often. I wound up with it on an X-10 appliance module (an addressable power plug, in effect) and using an IR-to-X10 unit (model IR543) to send the on/off signals to it, triggered by an IR blaster (USBUIRT) under control of the same sw that I use to wake up the PC when it has something to do. So when I was not using that device for a few days or weeks, I could manually trigger the power source off then my sw would turn it back on when it needed it.

That's a terrific suggestion: I have been X-10 since the 1980's and reinstalled it after the 1994 Northridge earthquake led to my house's demolition and completely new recontruction. I even added pool controls to my X-10. Ironically, my X-10 controller is my original 1980's model, programmed from my Apple //c (which still exists in my garage, with LCD screen, battery pack and over the shoulder case for portability), should I ever need to reprogram the controller. Thank goodness for the 9V battery backup...

I will add an appliance module to the HD-PVR and turn it off/on from remote control while viewing the front end over VNC...
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post #1655 of 5194
7/3/08 at 1:16pm
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Originally Posted by clemsonfn View Post

Can anyone send me a PM with where I might buy one of these? I've had problems finding one online.

I'm looking to archive college football games.

Thanks.

Heh, I emailed them right after I bought mine. They said to expect shipment mid-july.
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post #1656 of 5194
7/3/08 at 3:52pm
Just an update. Mine rma'ed c2 version unit works good. I left it turned on for 24 hours, then I recorded over two hours of hd stuff, stopped it and recorded again and it worked. That would lock up my old unit. I then left it on for about six hours and then recorded about 5 hours worth, then stopped and started again for about 1/2 hour. Never locked up, not even the previewer. I can surf the net, no problems. I think the new drivers are working my comp. a little harder. I have around 20 percent usage recording and about 4 percent playing back with PDVD 7.3. Now to get 5.1 audio.................Brian
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post #1657 of 5194
7/3/08 at 4:42pm
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Originally Posted by MichaelLAX View Post

...I will add an appliance module to the HD-PVR and turn it off/on from remote control while viewing the front end over VNC...

I forgot to mention, I also wasn't sure if the HDPVR would be "on" or "off" on power resume... please do post results, whether or not this works. Someone may want to know...
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post #1658 of 5194
7/3/08 at 5:24pm
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Originally Posted by dsinger View Post

The unit only outputs 2 channel stereo at this point. 5.1 is supposedly coming soon. My unit will only capture audio thru the 2 channel cables at this point. Some people claim they get 2 channel over the spdif but this may be source dependent. Note that the 2 channel outputs are reversed. Put red into white etc.

Source here is SA8300HD with Sara.

The spdif input could be used if you manually select the audio input each time you start the arcsoft capture module. It defaulted to RCA Back each time it started up.

In BeyondTV I wasn't getting any sound at all until switching to RCA cable.

I'm wondering if there is a simple reg hack that would get the HD PVR to use spdif as default.

Later, Conrad
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post #1659 of 5194
7/3/08 at 6:35pm
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Originally Posted by the_tom View Post

I forgot to mention, I also wasn't sure if the HDPVR would be "on" or "off" on power resume... please do post results, whether or not this works. Someone may want to know...

With my C2 version: if the power switch is on when the power is cut off it will turn on automatically when power is restored. If the power switch is off, it remains off when power is restored.
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post #1660 of 5194
7/3/08 at 7:02pm
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Originally Posted by wokwokabc View Post

With my C2 version: if the power switch is on when the power is cut off it will turn on automatically when power is restored. If the power switch is off, it remains off when power is restored.

LOL Mine is the opposite. I leave it off, but when power is cut and restored, the device is on. I have the original release.
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post #1661 of 5194
7/3/08 at 10:57pm
As compared to my other TV cards and stuff for the PC, my C2 unit is working pretty good right now.

I'd like confirmation for BeyondTV, it would be nice to get a Beta without applying for it. How well does the Beta work?

I have a test disk for players made. Just remember to use UDF 2.5
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post #1662 of 5194
7/3/08 at 11:27pm
my box is working fine but i'm having a problem with the dvd/br disk maker. on one of my pc's (single core 2.0) disk creation works just fine but on the other one a core 2 duo 2.2, on most attempts it gets to around 20% done and stops with no error message displayed anyone have any ideas? i'd like to use both to make my disks and i thought that the core 2 duo would be faster for this task but i can't even finish a disk.
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post #1663 of 5194
7/3/08 at 11:46pm
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Originally Posted by ncinsguy View Post

my box is working fine but i'm having a problem with the dvd/br disk maker. on one of my pc's (single core 2.0) disk creation works just fine but on the other one a core 2 duo 2.2, on most attempts it gets to around 20% done and stops with no error message displayed anyone have any ideas? i'd like to use both to make my disks and i thought that the core 2 duo would be faster for this task but i can't even finish a disk.

I know this sounds weird but I'm wondering if there's some sort of screensaver or energy saver mode that kicks in around the same time on your dual core PC. This actually happened to me during a burn to DVD, and I had to disable both my screensaver and power mode (would take me to standby mode).

I realize that this probably is a long shot, but I'd double check those settings first.
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post #1664 of 5194
7/4/08 at 12:12am
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Originally Posted by mindbender9 View Post

I know this sounds weird but I'm wondering if there's some sort of screensaver or energy saver mode that kicks in around the same time on your dual core PC. This actually happened to me during a burn to DVD, and I had to disable both my screensaver and power mode (would take me to standby mode).

I realize that this probably is a long shot, but I'd double check those settings first.

monitor was set to turn off after 20 mins hard drive never so i changed the monitor to never also hope it works and thanks for the advice
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post #1665 of 5194
7/4/08 at 1:58am
*sigh*

As much as I dreaded this moment, it's probably here.

While recording SD from my SA8300HD, my C2 revision HD-PVR suddenly froze. No pass-thru video, no response from the unit. WinXP is unable to recognize the unit no matter how much I unplug/replug it, or try to reinstall it.

And it also doesn't matter what driver I try to reinstall it with, Windows can't recognize the friggin' thing.

And with tomorrow being July 4th, Hauppauge's tech support won't be available until Monday.

I think I've earned a drink. Anyone who's gotten a C2 revision unit recently (RMA'd or new), please watch out for a lockup on your unit. Here's what I had connected to the unit at the time of failure:

- Component in from my SA8300HD
- Component out to my AV receiver
- USB from the HD-PVR to a USB hub, then to my PC
- Digital Optical out from my SA8300HD to the unit
- Digital Optical out from the unit to my stereo
- Ambient temperature: 80degF

Dammit Hauppauge! Get your act together!
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post #1666 of 5194
7/4/08 at 5:06am
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Originally Posted by mindbender9 View Post

*sigh*

As much as I dreaded this moment, it's probably here.

While recording SD from my SA8300HD, my C2 revision HD-PVR suddenly froze. No pass-thru video, no response from the unit. WinXP is unable to recognize the unit no matter how much I unplug/replug it, or try to reinstall it.

And it also doesn't matter what driver I try to reinstall it with, Windows can't recognize the friggin' thing.

And with tomorrow being July 4th, Hauppauge's tech support won't be available until Monday.

I think I've earned a drink. Anyone who's gotten a C2 revision unit recently (RMA'd or new), please watch out for a lockup on your unit. Here's what I had connected to the unit at the time of failure:

- Component in from my SA8300HD
- Component out to my AV receiver
- USB from the HD-PVR to a USB hub, then to my PC
- Digital Optical out from my SA8300HD to the unit
- Digital Optical out from the unit to my stereo
- Ambient temperature: 80degF

Dammit Hauppauge! Get your act together!

Probably won't help, but try bypassing the USB hub and go directly to the PC. Restart everything beginning with the AV equipment including HD PVR. After the HD PVR blue light comes on, I would unplug the power supply to it, wait 30 seconds and plug it back in. Restart the PC last.
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post #1667 of 5194
7/4/08 at 6:50am
my unit works flawless as long as i turn on the hdpvr and the directv box before i start my pc.if i turn it on after my pc has been on sometimes xp does not recognize it correctly.
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post #1668 of 5194
7/4/08 at 7:28am
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Originally Posted by mindbender9 View Post

*sigh*

As much as I dreaded this moment, it's probably here.

While recording SD from my SA8300HD, my C2 revision HD-PVR suddenly froze.

Did you try to turn the Blink light on to get the fan running? This was mentioned in an earlier post by Davenlr.

Your unit might be overheating without the fan running (?).
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post #1669 of 5194
7/4/08 at 8:21am
I've read quite a lot of this thread and would like to thank people for pointing me in the right direction in a couple of areas.

I ordered my PVR from Hauppauge.com several months ago and received it from Eire on monday. It is the C2 revision with a UK power supply. The HDE PVR has not been officially launched in the UK. I am currently using it to download my Glastonbury 2008 stuff from one of my sky HD boxes (modified with a 1TB HD). My first attempt had no sound but I changed the optical out settings ("normal" and "stereo") and it is capturing and previewing nicely onto a Qosmio G40 (which should play the files because it is set up as a HD DVD R player)

we'll see.......................hopefully I will be answering more questions on this forum than I ask
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post #1670 of 5194
7/4/08 at 8:38am
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Originally Posted by mindbender9 View Post

*sigh*

As much as I dreaded this moment, it's probably here.

While recording SD from my SA8300HD, my C2 revision HD-PVR suddenly froze. No pass-thru video, no response from the unit. WinXP is unable to recognize the unit no matter how much I unplug/replug it, or try to reinstall it.

And it also doesn't matter what driver I try to reinstall it with, Windows can't recognize the friggin' thing.

And with tomorrow being July 4th, Hauppauge's tech support won't be available until Monday.

I think I've earned a drink. Anyone who's gotten a C2 revision unit recently (RMA'd or new), please watch out for a lockup on your unit. Here's what I had connected to the unit at the time of failure:

- Component in from my SA8300HD
- Component out to my AV receiver
- USB from the HD-PVR to a USB hub, then to my PC
- Digital Optical out from my SA8300HD to the unit
- Digital Optical out from the unit to my stereo
- Ambient temperature: 80degF

Dammit Hauppauge! Get your act together!

Had my first loss of signal issue since receiving the PVR (a C2) yesterday.While recording it just stopped passing any video/audio, showed the source res as 0/0 with no bitrate. I rebooted the PC and the PVR and all has been normal since. I do have the fan enabled.
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post #1671 of 5194
7/4/08 at 8:53am
More about the fan...

I opened my new one (a C2) and the fan is a 40 mm connected to two pins. The C1's have the trace on the circuit board for the two pins, but don't have the actual pins.

The fan only only runs when 'ArcSoft Capture Module' is running. It seems to run no mater if the 'Disable Blink LED's' (in Format Settings) is checked or not.
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post #1672 of 5194
7/4/08 at 9:09am
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Originally Posted by the_tom View Post

I forgot to mention, I also wasn't sure if the HDPVR would be "on" or "off" on power resume... please do post results, whether or not this works. Someone may want to know...

My "C2" unit restarts in whatever power state it was in when the power was disconnected. If it was off- it stays off, if it was on- then it comes back on once power is restored.
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post #1673 of 5194
7/4/08 at 9:50am
HDFrank: If it only runs when Arcsoft capture mode is running, (which turns on the red record light), then when using SageTV or another software to record (which doesn't turn on the red record light for me at least), the fan isn't running correct? I have a C1 unit with no heat sink or fan. I've recorded about 100GB so far, using Arcsoft variable average 8.0 and peak 13.5, and the box doesn't get hot. It doesn't seem to get hot using SageTV to record either. I was going to wait until the warrantee expired and open it up and mount a small heat sink on that chip just to be safe though.
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post #1674 of 5194
7/4/08 at 10:04am
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Originally Posted by ScottTX View Post

Ok - I downloaded "gta4-1080i.ts" from this forum. Using H264info I found that the video is profile 4.0 and the audio is AAC.
I used TSmuxeR to demux the stream.
I used meGUI to transcode the AAC to AC3.
I used TSmuxeR to remux the video stream and the new AC3 audio stream. In TSmuxeR under "General track options" I selected the change level and made it 4.1.
I then started muxing into a m2ts container.

Then I copied the original ts file and the new m2ts file to a USB flash drive and inserted it into the PS3. The PS3 wouldn't even reveal the original ts file but played the newly created m2ts file perfectly.

This took all of a minute as NO encoding was necessary.

I'd like to have a batchable remux process; so I tried ~what you describe, but on a couple of different full-length (100+ minutes) captures. [The ~? As it happens beSweet, which I see is what meGui uses for audio encoding, won't run in my test system, it always crashes after about 100 seconds of audio; so I used DaudioK to transcode from AAC to AC3; with no command line, it's not really what I want, but at least it didn't crash]

Anyway, the output files play OK on the PS3 for short stretches, a couple of minutes or so, but then the video turns choppy - it looks like maybe 4 fps. When it does that it shows the datarate has nosedived from around 12Mbps to around 3. If I pause the PS3, then hit Play again, it is fine for a while. If I back up it will even play the "bad" part OK. And it is the same whether burned to DVD or streamed from TVersity.

Question time:

I wanted to try to reproduce your result, but when I search AVS for "gta4-1080i.ts" I only find - your post! Can you check the name and/or possibly provide a link for it? Are you sure it came from a HDPVR? And, do you remember how long it was?

What settings did you use - especially, did you enable or disable the "add picture timing info" and "continually insert sps/pps" options?

Have you (or anyone else) tried this process with longer TSs? If so, with what results?

thanks,

-tom-
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post #1675 of 5194
7/4/08 at 10:24am
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Originally Posted by Davenlr View Post

HDFrank: If it only runs when Arcsoft capture mode is running, (which turns on the red record light), then when using SageTV or another software to record (which doesn't turn on the red record light for me at least), the fan isn't running correct? I have a C1 unit with no heat sink or fan. I've recorded about 100GB so far, using Arcsoft variable average 8.0 and peak 13.5, and the box doesn't get hot. It doesn't seem to get hot using SageTV to record either. I was going to wait until the warrantee expired and open it up and mount a small heat sink on that chip just to be safe though.


Your theory could be correct but I don't use Sage so can't test.

You could just go ahead and open your C1 case and install a Thermaltake CL-C0025 heatsink (a heatsink made for memory and it's available at most RadioShacks). If you have to send your C1 in, the heatsink will simply twist off. You could go even further and find (and solder) +5 volt connection on the C1 board at J301 and install your own 40 mm fan.

On the other hand, the old adage may apply, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it".
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post #1676 of 5194
7/4/08 at 11:44am
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Originally Posted by dsinger View Post

Probably won't help, but try bypassing the USB hub and go directly to the PC. Restart everything beginning with the AV equipment including HD PVR. After the HD PVR blue light comes on, I would unplug the power supply to it, wait 30 seconds and plug it back in. Restart the PC last.

After powering off and letting it sit for a number of hours, I did exactly what you suggested and it's now working.

After connecting the unit straight to the PC, I did have a "Windows cannot recognize USB Device...." error pop up. I uninstalled the unit from Windows (via Device Manager) and reinstalled it with the original Hauppauge drivers. This time, no error.

So after reconnecting it and leaving it powered on last, it's now passing video through and operating normally. I'm about to make a test recording (1080i) to see if it's ok.

Thanks to everyone for their help. Again, I appreciate it!
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7/4/08 at 12:38pm
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Originally Posted by mindbender9 View Post

So after reconnecting it and leaving it powered on last, it's now passing video through and operating normally. I'm about to make a test recording (1080i) to see if it's ok.

Nope, there's a problem.

I can record for a while but then the HD-PVR freezes the picture (but not sound). The pass-through continues fine, however.

Restarting the recording in TMS Capture gives me the ominous "The device is not available, or being used by another application. Please close any applications that may be using the device and try again" message.

Unplugging the unit for a minute and starting everything up again seems to work for now. Simply powering off/on the HD-PVR doesn't fix it.

Crap. Anyone else experiencing this in WinXP?

EDIT: Forgot to mention this - The red record LED is still on the HD-PVR despite it failing until I unplug the power from the unit. Could this be an overheating issue on my C2 despite the fan?

EDIT #2: The unit freezes after recording for only 16 seconds. It's getting worse.
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post #1678 of 5194
7/4/08 at 1:19pm
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Originally Posted by mindbender9 View Post

Nope, there's a problem.

I can record for a while but then the HD-PVR freezes the picture (but not sound). The pass-through continues fine, however.

Restarting the recording in TMS Capture gives me the ominous "The device is not available, or being used by another application. Please close any applications that may be using the device and try again" message.

Unplugging the unit for a minute and starting everything up again seems to work for now. Simply powering off/on the HD-PVR doesn't fix it.

Crap. Anyone else experiencing this in WinXP?

EDIT: Forgot to mention this - The red record LED is still on the HD-PVR despite it failing until I unplug the power from the unit. Could this be an overheating issue on my C2 despite the fan?

EDIT #2: The unit freezes after recording for only 16 seconds. It's getting worse.

The 16 seconds sounds like the problems some of the first units had i.e. failure time decreases with use. I have a C1 that thankfully only gets slightly warm especially if turned on it's side and this is after 2.5 hours of 1080i at 13.5 mbps constant. I am running XP SP2.
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post #1679 of 5194
7/4/08 at 2:34pm
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Originally Posted by dsinger View Post

The 16 seconds sounds like the problems some of the first units had i.e. failure time decreases with use. I have a C1 that thankfully only gets slightly warm especially if turned on it's side and this is after 2.5 hours of 1080i at 13.5 mbps constant. I am running XP SP2.

Funny enough, I've placed the unit on its side as well and the recording is going well... so far. Perhaps there is a heat issue happening here.

Currently recording 480p and 6.5 Mbps constant (same as previous tests that failed).

I'm calling Hauppauge on Monday morning. Thanks all!

EDIT - Nope! The recording failed again at about the same point as my first failure last night. And this is with the unit on its side. Stopping and starting the recording gives me the "The device is not available, or being used by another application" pop up. Dammit.
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post #1680 of 5194
7/4/08 at 6:07pm
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Originally Posted by the_tom View Post

I'd like to have a batchable remux process; so I tried ~what you describe, but on a couple of different full-length (100+ minutes) captures. [The ~? As it happens beSweet, which I see is what meGui uses for audio encoding, won't run in my test system, it always crashes after about 100 seconds of audio; so I used DaudioK to transcode from AAC to AC3; with no command line, it's not really what I want, but at least it didn't crash]

Anyway, the output files play OK on the PS3 for short stretches, a couple of minutes or so, but then the video turns choppy - it looks like maybe 4 fps. When it does that it shows the datarate has nosedived from around 12Mbps to around 3. If I pause the PS3, then hit Play again, it is fine for a while. If I back up it will even play the "bad" part OK. And it is the same whether burned to DVD or streamed from TVersity.

Question time:

I wanted to try to reproduce your result, but when I search AVS for "gta4-1080i.ts" I only find - your post! Can you check the name and/or possibly provide a link for it? Are you sure it came from a HDPVR? And, do you remember how long it was?

What settings did you use - especially, did you enable or disable the "add picture timing info" and "continually insert sps/pps" options?

Have you (or anyone else) tried this process with longer TSs? If so, with what results?

thanks,

-tom-

Ok, it took me a while of searching my history, but I finally found the files I downloaded. They were not from this forum. Here is the link:
http://blog.arogan.com/2008/06/haupp...odel-1212.html
I used the hdpvrsamples.zip.
They are 15 SECONDS only!
Both the "add picture" and "continually insert" where selected by default and I left them checked.
I used dial-up so the length of the files I can use if VERY limited!
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