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post #1831 of 5194
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Originally Posted by KavMan View Post

Sorry I don't know, I'm running XP, make sure you're on the right channel it's connected on

This is what it looks like on XP connected on the Secondary channel



on the machine that used to work dma is on both the hdd and the dvd rom drive...system restore on vista is different than xp no calendar just a list of restore points and the earliest is only 4 days ago so that won't help me...been longer than that since it worked properly. anyone know if there is a way to see earlier restore points in vista?
post #1832 of 5194
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Originally Posted by LazyTom View Post

I got one the first batches of the PVRs. I never was able to even view anything; it never worked at all. The TME software actually went belly-up and I sent in the Doc Watson report.

I RMA'ed it and got a new C2. Still the same old problem - even after a full system restore from before the original install, a scrub of the video and audio codecs, a complete removal of all of Hauppauge drivers and inf files, etc. AND then a complete reinstall -- nada.

TME shows that the video source is connected and detectable, just no capture ever takes place; nothing ever shows in the preview screen, the format button is never activated, etc.


I sent a note just yesterday requesting any further follow-up tricks & techniques, but no joy so far. So I am expecting to return this unit and then request a full refund - to wait for a better time.

{Edit after re-reading your post: Does it show up device manager? If so, what is its status? If OK, can you build a graph for it in graphedt? Even without the graph being complete, if you just add the Hauppauge HDPVR Encoder filter (under WDM Streaming Encoders) and right-click on it, you should see filter properties dialog?}

Are you perhaps trying this on an XP system that you've been using for a while? Back in May I tried to check out the trial version of TME by installing on such a system; and I never got any function in it to work at all.

Whether that seems to apply or not, and especially if the TME player or anything else on your system will play any of the samples floating around, you might want to also try some other capture sw before you pack it up. You can get a simple command line one from ARogan's blog, or PM me with an email address for a beta copy of mine.
post #1833 of 5194
Easy way to check if your dvd is in pio mode, check the cpu usage while reading the drive. If in doubt (with XP anyway) you just delete the Ide driver and reboot. It will reinstall it when it boots back up with dma back on. It will turn dma off and default to pio mode any time it gets multiple retries on a disc sector, usually due to a bad disc. Think of dma as the equivilent to hardware accelleration on a video card. PIO mode uses the CPU... alot.
post #1834 of 5194
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Originally Posted by ScottTX View Post
I would like to play with the reformat sw.
OK, I've zipped H1R up and put it on MegaUpload as an open beta - free, no warranty, use at your own risk.

Here's a link to the zip file: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=J28HNUK2

Here's the MD5 checksum for the file:A414E00F9DC418FF90D2D04517F8E69D

And, for anyone who's curious, I'll attach a screen shot and readme file to this post.

Good luck!

-tom-

PS. I know megaupload can be a bit of a drag, but AVS Forum rules claim perpetual and unlimited rights to any software I attach to a post directly here in the forum. That's not something I can accept for this material, so I have to post it elsewhere. [Not complaining - just explaining.]
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h1r_beta_0503$readme.txt 8.0478515625k . file
post #1835 of 5194
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Originally Posted by Raven654 View Post

Got my HD PVR back in June(first Shipment). Last week it started to acting up. When I turn it on Color was off. Like it was not picking up one of the component cables. I would ether play with the cables or turn it off again and turn it back on.

Has anyone experience this?

Happened to me a couple of times, just loose cables (and one time I put the green in blue). Uplugging and then replugging firmly on both sides will probably fix it.
post #1836 of 5194
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Originally Posted by Davenlr View Post

Easy way to check if your dvd is in pio mode, check the cpu usage while reading the drive. If in doubt (with XP anyway) you just delete the Ide driver and reboot. It will reinstall it when it boots back up with dma back on. It will turn dma off and default to pio mode any time it gets multiple retries on a disc sector, usually due to a bad disc. Think of dma as the equivilent to hardware accelleration on a video card. PIO mode uses the CPU... alot.

on the machine that used to work it shows dma enabled on the one that has never worked the same...cpu usage on both machines is minimal for tme but memory is high over 300mb just for tme alone. do u thing deleting and rebooting will help even with them both enabled?
post #1837 of 5194
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Originally Posted by the_tom View Post

OK, I've zipped H1R up and put it on MegaUpload as an open beta - free, no warranty, use at your own risk.

Here's a link to the zip file: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=J28HNUK2

Here's the MD5 checksum for the file:A414E00F9DC418FF90D2D04517F8E69D

And, for anyone who's curious, I'll attach a screen shot and readme file to this post.

Good luck!

-tom-

PS. I know megaupload can be a bit of a drag, but AVS Forum rules claim perpetual and unlimited rights to any software I attach to a post directly here in the forum. That's not something I can accept for this material, so I have to post it elsewhere. [Not complaining - just explaining.]

what does this softwar do?
post #1838 of 5194
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Originally Posted by ncinsguy View Post

what does this softwar do?

Orchestrates remux for playback on PS3. I wrote it for my own use, to have a more (my-)time-efficient way of prepping files for PS3 playback. I can set up a whole list of files, fire it off, and come back in an hour or three and have them all racked up on my media server's share and ready to stream to PS3. I think it's pretty well explained in the readme that I attached to the post - it took hours to write - please read it for details.
post #1839 of 5194
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Originally Posted by RAVEN56706 View Post

ok guys. after asking you guys for advice the past couple of days, i finally opened the box, got my 50 inch rca component cables and got to test the HD PVR.... here are my results

Started to record from my HD DVR from Directv. now i only tested record 3 minutes of a Giant game....I put the h264 encoder for - Average- 10.0 mbps and peak 13.5.after recording, i wanted to see how it would work for streaming so i used the media converter from arcsoft and made it into an wmv file....

Heres my questions though
1) after it taking alittle long to do, i watched and the video seemed to stutter very 5 seconds...

2) when i used the mp4 converter that came with it, that was fast but when i tried opening it i got some weird error and it said the something was missing.

3) when i streamed it to my ps3 via the twonkymedia and tversity, the max bitrate was only 5.0....

ok now here is another question: Am i doing something wrong or maybe you can give a brotha some advice to tweak this?

does anyone have any suggestions to my problem?
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Another update: i used the mediaconverter and changed the ts file to a mp4 file directly.... the problem is now i cant get the sony ps3 to play the freaking thing through tversity..... it just shows the beginning picture and has it paused. I cant play the damn thing...

anyone have any ideas?
post #1841 of 5194
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Originally Posted by chrispy66 View Post

thanks, though when i use tversity it does not seem to stream the files to the xbox (though it works very well with the ps3). what file type is needed (and how should that be created without diminishing quality)? Thanks.

To stream the original file (without transcoding), it needs to be remuxed as an MP4, either in the MP4 Converter software that came with the HDPVR, or if that doesn't work for you, another way to do it is demux with tsMuxeR, and mux with MeGui. (While installing MeGui seems like overkill for multiplexing, it's the only thing that works for me)

As far as TVersity, click the Settings tab, click Transcoder, and set 'When to transcode' to Never. You'll know when you're streaming without transcoding because the video will play almost immediately, with no buffering.

One big downside with the 360 is that you cannot FF or REW these particular files. Pausing works fine.

I bought the HDPVR primarily to archive NFL games, but also for the occasional movie and tv show. Keeping an hour of commercials to every 2 hours of football isn't really an option, so after a lot of my own testing have decided I'll be converting to divx at the full resolution and frame rate, until a better editing solution comes along for h264. An average game lasts a little over 2 hours, and fits on a single layer DVD at ~5000mb/s. The quality definitely degrades, as it to be expected, particularly in dark areas and areas of a solid color, but honestly, it looks a lot better than I had anticipated. Unless you're on top of your tv set, the difference is not all that noticeable 95% of the time. And I get the ability back to FF and REW on the XBOX. All in all, I'm very happy with the HDPVR - certainly helps that I was one of the fortunate ones that got a C1 unit without any problems.
post #1842 of 5194
Another note pertaining to the 360 - Once the original TS file is edited (with h264ts Cutter or TS Packet Editor), is then remuxed to mp4, it will no longer play on the 360 for whatever reason.
post #1843 of 5194
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Originally Posted by JJamez View Post

Another note pertaining to the 360 - Once the original TS file is edited (with h264ts Cutter or TS Packet Editor), is then remuxed to mp4, it will no longer play on the 360 for whatever reason.

many thanks. the mp4 converter creates a file that does not seem to play back on the 360 at least for me. I plan on using your other method (though the number of things that it seems you need to do to get megui working in its setup seems a bit much -- unless i am reading the 3d party instructions wrong). Thanks again.
post #1844 of 5194
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Originally Posted by RAVEN56706 View Post

does anyone have any suggestions to my problem?

Taking the "problem" to be, you can't get stuff to play on PS3, that's not just your problem, it's a common one. To some extent you seem to be rediscovering things that are "generally known" or at least "widely believed". Here is my quick summary, you should be able to find more details on all these discussed at some length in the recent past in this thread:
  • Don't use MP4 creator, it doesn't work yet, for almost everyone, almost all the time, except on very short clips.
  • Don't use media converter, it takes forever and downreses your video and there have been few or no reports that it produces any useful output.
  • You can use either Total Media Studio ("Create AVCHD Disc") or some other means of remuxing the TS files, to get something that will play on PS3.
  • Even when using the best-known techniques, it seems that some people have got lemon devices that just don't produce good captures; but I don't see any reason yet to assume yours is in that category.
post #1845 of 5194
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Originally Posted by chrispy66 View Post

many thanks. the mp4 converter creates a file that does not seem to play back on the 360 at least for me. I plan on using your other method (though the number of things that it seems you need to do to get megui working in its setup seems a bit much -- unless i am reading the 3d party instructions wrong). Thanks again.

use the hauppage mp4 creator and put them on ext harddrives and they will work
post #1846 of 5194
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Originally Posted by RAVEN56706 View Post

anyone have any ideas?

I can only advise you on the DirecTV side of your equation. For the rest, I use my Macintosh and transcode to play on my AppleTVs. I don't have an XBox 360 nor view on my computers.

That being said, I do use the Hauppauge MP4 converter for 720p files periodically, but again for Mac purposes.
post #1847 of 5194
Okay guys, I'm confused as heck. So I'm completely new to video compression numbers and what not. So I'm reading about bitrates... I'm in VirtualDub right now and I'm just screwing around with the h264 compression. The max bitrate it allows me to compress a video with is 9999 kbps (9.76 mbps) for video. Now, the Hauppauge is rated at a max 13.5 mbps.

So I guess I'm wondering if I should be able to encode at say, 13.5 or 24 mbps with VirtualDub. If so, how do I do it? Heck, is the Hauppauge mbps rating completely different from what I'm actually looking at in virtualdub's kbps bitrate? Obviously I'm dumb when it comes to this :P.

So in the end, how can I encode in something like 24 mbps bitrate through virtualdub?

Sorry for being dumb :P
post #1848 of 5194
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Originally Posted by copybeaver View Post

So in the end, how can I encode in something like 24 mbps bitrate through virtualdub?

What encoder are you using? Look for Profile settings. Many encoders support different profiles -- limitations on frame size, bitrate, etc. to help you from exceeding playback devices' capabilities.

Oh, I bet you're using x264 VFW. It does seem to have an arbitrary limit of 9999 kbps. You can get around this by using one of the constant quality (single pass quantizer, rate factor) modes instead. Those are better anyway unless you need a file of a specific size (like 700 MB to fit on a CD). Pick the quality you want and encode in a single pass. The file will come out to whatever size is needed to deliver that quality.

AVI is not a good container for h.264 video. I recommend you turn off B frames and enable the "VD Hack" if you're going to use x264 in AVI.
post #1849 of 5194
I don't think vdub can even encode to h264, can it?

Why are you trying to encode something at such a high bitrate? A recompressed vid is never going to look any better than the original.
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I can't seem to find help on this so can someone here help? I have a H-20 direct tv box and I need to change channels on it for use with the hd pvr, using sage tv or beyond tv. I cannot use the ir blaster as I I have the h 20 set up for a rf remote. The h 20 has a usb conn. and a rj-11 conn. for the phone. How do I hook this box to my computer to change channels? Thanks in advance for any help................Brian
post #1851 of 5194
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Originally Posted by the_tom View Post

Taking the "problem" to be, you can't get stuff to play on PS3, that's not just your problem, it's a common one. To some extent you seem to be rediscovering things that are "generally known" or at least "widely believed". Here is my quick summary, you should be able to find more details on all these discussed at some length in the recent past in this thread:
  • Don't use MP4 creator, it doesn't work yet, for almost everyone, almost all the time, except on very short clips.
  • Don't use media converter, it takes forever and downreses your video and there have been few or no reports that it produces any useful output.
  • You can use either Total Media Studio ("Create AVCHD Disc") or some other means of remuxing the TS files, to get something that will play on PS3.
  • Even when using the best-known techniques, it seems that some people have got lemon devices that just don't produce good captures; but I don't see any reason yet to assume yours is in that category.


the thing is it looks fine on the computer... wmv files for some reason arent encoding properly... the mp4's are fine but wont play on the ps3...

are there any other encoders that are better then the one provided byt hauppage
post #1852 of 5194
Set the H20 to IR mode, put the HDPVR blaster right over the IR sensor, and cover with black tape, or switch the H20 to a secondary set of codes, and use the learn function on the hdpvr to learn the new codeset.
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Only problem is I need to use the RF remote. My av equipment is in another room with my projector. Is there a way to do it with the usb port on the back, or the rj-11 port?...............Brian
post #1854 of 5194
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Originally Posted by zr600 View Post

Only problem is I need to use the RF remote. My av equipment is in another room with my projector. Is there a way to do it with the usb port on the back, or the rj-11 port?...............Brian

Brian,
I am using the TV Translator to control a HR21 with Beyond TV thru the usb port on the receiver. I really like it as the channel change is much faster and without the banner. You can find it here:
http://www.patersontech.com/products...ranslator.aspx

Some people say they have trouble dropping the usb connection requiring reset of the receiver periodically but its worked fine for me.

Dave
post #1855 of 5194
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Originally Posted by JJamez View Post

I don't think vdub can even encode to h264, can it?

h.264 is like any other video codec. As long as you have a VFW based encoder (because VirtualDub uses VFW encoders) you can use it in VirtualDub. The output will be an AVI file with h.264 video.

Unfortunately, AVI (VFW really) is not suitable for some of h.264 features (like variable frame rates and bidirectionally encoded frames) so not all of them can be used (VFR) and hacks are required for others (b-frames).
post #1856 of 5194
I wanted to see if anybody else has noticed this or has a solution. I am using Vista Home and have a couple of NAS devices a terastation and an Unraid. I have drive letters on Vista mapped to the Nas devices. In the capture software when I try to select a new capture location these drives are not shown. Also not shown is the option to browse my network places plus you cannot type a new capture location. Anybody can confirm this or have a solution?
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Dave, does your computer have a serial port or do you use a usb to serial port adaptor? My computer does not have any serial ports. Darn I just checked the translator is back ordered for a little while................Brian
post #1858 of 5194
Brian - I have serial ports I am using but I understand you can use a usb-serial adapter or a serial pci card. Other people say you can use a usb-serial adapter>null modem cable>serial-usb adapter instead of the TV Translator - check the snapstream forums and search there.
post #1859 of 5194
Dave, thanks a bunch, I will check into it...............Brian
post #1860 of 5194
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Originally Posted by wokwokabc View Post

What encoder are you using? Look for Profile settings. Many encoders support different profiles -- limitations on frame size, bitrate, etc. to help you from exceeding playback devices' capabilities.

Oh, I bet you're using x264 VFW. It does seem to have an arbitrary limit of 9999 kbps. You can get around this by using one of the constant quality (single pass quantizer, rate factor) modes instead. Those are better anyway unless you need a file of a specific size (like 700 MB to fit on a CD). Pick the quality you want and encode in a single pass. The file will come out to whatever size is needed to deliver that quality.

AVI is not a good container for h.264 video. I recommend you turn off B frames and enable the "VD Hack" if you're going to use x264 in AVI.

Thanks for the info! I appreciate it. I'll try it out in a second. What would software would you recommend for encoding in h264?

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Originally Posted by JJamez View Post

I don't think vdub can even encode to h264, can it?

Why are you trying to encode something at such a high bitrate? A recompressed vid is never going to look any better than the original.

I just wanted to see if it was possible. That's why I was getting confused. I was wondering how the Hauppauge could be rated at 13.5 mbps when I couldn't even get to 10! I understand a recompressed video will never look better than the original. :P
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