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The thing is, if what you are trying to accomplish is to play stuff on the PS3, there are lots of suggestions on what works for folks, but you don't seem to be doing anything with them. Instead, you seem to be repeating, "my wmv's from media converter don't work, and my MP4's from mp4 creator don't work, what should I do?" Having something play on the PC has no predictive value for PS3 playback; in fact my files that play on PS3 don't play on my PC.

If you want to be successful, what I suggest you should do is stop trying to use those approaches and tools that aren't working. Instead, try some of the suggestions and tips already in this thread; here are five posts related to preparing files for non-PC playback from the past few pages of this thread, the first two of which were in direct response to your inquiries, and which your latest posts seem to indicate you have not followed up on:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...5#post14272215
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...1#post14244461
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...5#post14276315
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...9#post14272769
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...2#post14237152

I wish you success, really. We pretty much all agree that the things you say aren't working for you, don't work. Maybe it's time to try some of these other things.

Sorry, didn't mean that to sound like it probably did.. I just meant that it's not necessary to reencode at a higher bitrate than the original file.

Heh, I know you didn't mean any harm by it.

What's the latest guesstimation on when they're going to be available again for the one's of us that don't have one yet?

can anyone give me more advice on this situation?

I checked with Hauppauge earlier last week and was told they are expecting them at the end of this week (i.e. ~07/18). I assume this is the earliest you'll find it from anywhere...

Hope it happens, I'm looking forward to playing around with it. I hope VideoRedo eventually gets h264 enabled on their software, they don't seem to be in too big of a hurry though.

Subjective question, where would you guys recommend ordering from? I like amazon, but if ordering directly from Hauppauge would be better(aka faster), I'll go that route.

I aksed the same questions; amazon is out, you cant order there, but dell seems to have it on hand. Not too happy with Hauppauge, no mention of stock issues when you order and i was told second week of july... still waiting.

Whenever they do come in, I hope they've had enough of them built to satisfy the demand. It will be nice to back up some of my favorite cable shows, I've got two D* HR20 DVRs. Too bad you can't construct a playlist on them, could do plenty of overnight dumping

i appreciate your help... really... but i have to say i am not trying to repeat myself... i am trying to inform you that i am very new to this... and unfortunately there is no FAQ at the beginning to this thread... instead there are over 1000 posts and tidbits here and there... i dont really have the time to do a search and read on and on.... thats why i ask and when i do i say i really appreciate your help....

but thanks again

Unfortunately, it seems like we are all trailblazers on this stuff -- the information that's around is sketchy as best, as different people try different things and post their results. As you said, just tidbits here and there. I've been knocking my head into the wall as well, with different issues, like trying to find out how to burn the Hauppauge files to Blu-ray media. The answer seems to be to buy the full version of Total Media Extreme, but that's not 100% confirmed. Seems like the full version DOES support Blu-ray media, but does it also support the HD PVR? Could be something special about the custom version that it uses. I've emailed Arcsoft, but so far, nothing in return.

So, I do sympathize with your situation. I can only hope for all of us that as this stuff becomes more common, they'll be better answers.

u can dl the full version trial at their site and it does support the pvr...so you can try it out if u like.

I tried that -- I installed it on my "old" machine as a test, and was surprised to find that even though I installed it in different folder, it blew out all the shortcuts to the Hauppauge version and linked everything to the new one. When I tried to capture from the HD PVR, it kept saying that "the device is unavailable." I finally uninstalled everything, then reinstalled just the trial version -- now it recognized the HD PVR, but it wouldn't capture anything -- just black and/or random frames. The Hauppauge version DID work on that machine, although the preview window was choppy.

Next step is to uninstall again, re-install the Hauppauge version and see if that still works. Endless trial-and-error with this stuff!

Edit: OK, got brave and uninstalled the HD PVR version of TME from my main machine and installed the trial full-version. I've got video from the HD PVR, but no audio during capture preview. It is there when playing the recorded file though. Weird. Well, now to try making a Blu-ray disc. If it will make Blu-ray discs from both the HD PVR recordings AND HD TiVo recordings, WITHOUT re-encoding either, I'll be in heaven ...

If one wants the information, one should read the 1000 posts. Especially when that person won't even read _direct_ responses to his own questions. sheesh what is this? A junior high school?

wow... are people being really sensitive about this... wow... this forum has really changed the past 6 years since i posted here...

this kimifelipe... if you read those questions, they were barely direct responses but none the less, it doesnt matter...patience is a virtue....

Sorry if I missed something or this is redundant... but can't you just use the TMS "burn to hard disk" option and then burn the directory tree that gives you, onto your BR media using whatever burn sw you usually use for that?

That's what I do, only I use Nero to burn the content on a regular DVD+R blank (using the UDF 2.5 format). But yeah.....just drag and drop the folders into Nero.

Nope, you didn't miss anything. I hadn't thought of trying that option -- I guess I'm just plain dumb. This biggest problem is that I am really just getting started with this, so I don't have any stand-alone Blu-Ray burning software at the moment, other than what came with the drive (and I haven't installed any of that yet). I originally figured that the software supplied with the HD PVR would support BD media, but was wrong about that.

Oh, also not sure if the directory tree for putting files on an AVCHD formatted DVD is the same as for a true Blu-ray disc. Using the trial version of TME, it says "creating Blu-Ray disc" instead of "creating AVCHD disc" when burning to BD media. Semantics?

I also want to be able to put MPEG-2 HD files onto BD, and the full version of TME allows for that as well. So, that my ultimately be my best all-around solution.

I'm still learnin' at this point ...

How to alienate the troops...

I've got an email into Hauppauge tech support about this, but if anyone has any ideas:

My DirecTV HR20-100 HD receiver can receive OTA HD broadcasts, such as PBS-HD on channels 28-1 and 50-1, which are not currently carried on the D* satellite. However the Hauppauge software does not seem to be able to send the hyphen in "28-1" thru the IR Blaster and returns an error.

If I manually go to the receiver and change it with its remote to the proper channel, Win Scheduler still wants to change the channel when it comes time to record the show.

i have not tried the ir blaster so i may not be giving pertinent advice...but i would have the receiver tune to the channel and start the recording on the PVR automatically if it's possible...i used to do this with WMC when i would record shows using that.

I've used my H1R tool now to reformat 20 full-length movies to m2ts (.m2t) for playback on PS3. I have been having it write the output directly over my LAN to the share volume being served up by TVersity (V 1.0.0.1): this takes about 20 minutes per rather than about 10 minutes, but it's very convenient. I have watched 3 of them from beginning to end, with no problems. I have spot checked them all (BTW, FF at 120x even works!), and here's the score:

17 with no problems seen
2 with minor lipsync issues
1 with disastrous stuttering ("frame jump" problem)

I went back to the original TS for that last one. It plays OK on the PC in ArcSoft player. But when I process it through ArcSoft TMS to AVCHD format and take the m2ts file, that plays exactly as badly on the PS3 - it looks like it was filmed through a stroboscope at about 2 Hz. Good news/bad news I take that to be: H1R didn't mess it up any extra, but it didn't help that one either and I now know that my HDPVR can sometimes make a "bad" TS, with what makes it bad, unknown right now.

I have not had a chance to investigate the 2 lipsyncs but I suspect the issue may be in the original as 'cast - that happens reasonably often. Even counting the results as 17 out of 20, I grade it a solid "B", 85%.

I like the way it works (patting myself on the back, heh). For example, on Sunday morning I set up a batch of 5 movies to process. I used TS Packet Editor to find the places I wanted to cut the ends off, and keyed those numbers of seconds into H1R. It took 6 minutes to set up altogether. Then I clicked "Process", turned off the TV/Monitor, did a few chores, played with the cat, and went grocery shopping. When I checked a couple hours later, all five were long since finished (took about 75 minutes in total), and the files were sitting on my media server reaady to stream from TVersity to PS3. Since this is still a "testing" phase, I spot checked them all - took another 10 minutes or so.

As some have noticed, I published H1R as an "open beta", anyone can download it, and a number of folks have; I get a download count, but no ids, so I don't know who. It might be nice to hear from some you, how it is going (or maybe I don't want to know? ) ?


-tom-


PS Here's the post with the download link, or if you prefer you can find instructions for doing the remux without using my tool by following the chain back a bit further.


PPS It's possible there are more problems lurking in the 17 I count as "good" so far. In any case, I delete these files after watching.

I would try using a "." instead of a "-", or pre-filling with leading zeros if it will do that, without much hope of success tho.

Are you using a predefined profile for the IR codes? You might be able to make a custom one that will do the job. It's been a long time since I looked at the UI for that, so I don't know if it has a dash in it... but even if it still won't take a dash, maybe there's some character in the learnable profile that you don't need, you could "learn" the dash for it, and change the channel in your res to use that char instead...

HD-PVR version C1... Driver crashes about every 5th time it tries to send a IR control channel change. Does it even if using the IR control app. Using all newest drivers. Any suggestions? Kinda useless having a pvr if it doensnt change channels.

Umm... what exactly is it that you see when "driver crashes"?

What does that mean? For example...

I'll try the "." and let you know...

I had no success with the learning mode even with Hauppauge Tech Support on the phone; either I held the key down too short, or too long: I kept getting the same error message. I was relieved to discover that Code 125 works with this receiver.

If I can't simulate the "-" anybody know how I can tell WinTV Scheduler to just not change the channel, so I can preset it manually? I will not be recording off the air that often.

Unplug the IR transmitter (not a joke, actually, that works.)

Good suggestion! I had to tape the blaster on to the front of the DirecTV receiver as both of them (C1 & C2), the stickum failed immediately.

I'm starting to digitize movies off the various HD channels (HDNetMovies, MGM-HD, HBO, Showtime, Starz) and transcoding them to 960x540 for playback on my AppleTV. 2.2Gig per 2 hours. Next week I will try transcodes at 1280x720 to see if the visual quality difference is worth the extra transcode time and bigger file size. [UPDATE: ignore the 2.2 per 2 hours for now...]

I'm next going to try SimpleMovieX to edit and trim out of the transcoded files...