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10/29/08 at 8:02am
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10/29/08 at 8:03am
^ The problem is the pass-through is only active when the HD PVR is powered on. Besides a waste of electricity, I worry about the heat generation prematurely aging it (the fan(s) aren't active except in the encoding/recording mode so no help there) from leaving it on whenever I watch TV.
My solution was to install a component video splitter (no, not a passive split by way of a bunch of RCA Y-cords
, I doubt that would work). Actually it is a Radio Shack 4 in /2 identical out switch box I had on hand. The RS model is 15-1927. They are cheap ($60) and as far as I know don't degrade the image.
One out goes to the TV and the other out to the HD PVR. I can't find it in their on line catalog but a similar design might still be available.
My solution was to install a component video splitter (no, not a passive split by way of a bunch of RCA Y-cords
, I doubt that would work). Actually it is a Radio Shack 4 in /2 identical out switch box I had on hand. The RS model is 15-1927. They are cheap ($60) and as far as I know don't degrade the image.One out goes to the TV and the other out to the HD PVR. I can't find it in their on line catalog but a similar design might still be available.
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10/29/08 at 8:28am
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Is their enough outs on my Directv box to connect the component video? I already have HD going from my sat box to my TV.
Is their enough outs on my Directv box to connect the component video? I already have HD going from my sat box to my TV.
Another option, assuming your TV has HDMI inputs, is to connect the HR22 to your TV via HDMI and also to the HDPVR with component cables. That way, you wouldn't have to worry about leaving the HDPVR on whenever you're watching TV, it would only need to be on when capturing something.
Not all STB's output HDMI and component simultaneously, but I believe the Directv boxes do. If not, you'd simply need to switch from HDMI to component with your remote if you wanted to watch something as its being caputured by the HDPVR.
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10/29/08 at 1:04pm
I've just had this very serious issue for the second time:
I was making a capture from my Scientific Atlanta 8300 HD and watching it, as the recording was going on. Everything seemed to be okay, not a single visible glitch. I recorded about 10 minutes and then stopped it.
I opened the TS file in TME, it ran the first 10-15 seconds of the recorded material, then there was a blue screen displayed for probably only about half a second, and then it played back the final 20-30 seconds. So, I've got the first 10 and maybe the last 20, or 30 seconds, instead of the full 10 minutes. Everything in between has not been captured at all. Again, I did not see any glitches, while recording.
This is already for the second time. The last time, I was recording a 30 min show and got about the first 20 minutes, and the last 5 minutes. The other 5 minutes in the middle were completely missing.
Has anybody here seen or heard of anything like this? I am pretty sure this one is going back, but I wonder if I should only replace it for another one, or maybe forget about the whole thing, because it appears that this technology is far away from perfection.
I was making a capture from my Scientific Atlanta 8300 HD and watching it, as the recording was going on. Everything seemed to be okay, not a single visible glitch. I recorded about 10 minutes and then stopped it.
I opened the TS file in TME, it ran the first 10-15 seconds of the recorded material, then there was a blue screen displayed for probably only about half a second, and then it played back the final 20-30 seconds. So, I've got the first 10 and maybe the last 20, or 30 seconds, instead of the full 10 minutes. Everything in between has not been captured at all. Again, I did not see any glitches, while recording.
This is already for the second time. The last time, I was recording a 30 min show and got about the first 20 minutes, and the last 5 minutes. The other 5 minutes in the middle were completely missing.
Has anybody here seen or heard of anything like this? I am pretty sure this one is going back, but I wonder if I should only replace it for another one, or maybe forget about the whole thing, because it appears that this technology is far away from perfection.
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10/29/08 at 5:42pm
Hey, Michael, check this out. Plays unmodified 1212 TS files flawlessly:
http://elan.plexapp.com/
I just stumbled across it a half hour ago. It's an XBMC port, so the Windows folks might want to check out the original version ( http://xbmc.org/ ).
Probably not the answer for AppleTV, but it works like magic for Hauppauge files on a Mac for Hauppauge.
EDIT: Er, sorry about the Department of Redundancy Department notice there...
http://elan.plexapp.com/
I just stumbled across it a half hour ago. It's an XBMC port, so the Windows folks might want to check out the original version ( http://xbmc.org/ ).
Probably not the answer for AppleTV, but it works like magic for Hauppauge files on a Mac for Hauppauge.
EDIT: Er, sorry about the Department of Redundancy Department notice there...
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10/30/08 at 11:32am
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10/30/08 at 12:27pm
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Has anyone gotten 5.1 playback in Arcsoft software ( either OEM or upgraded ) of files recorded on the HD PVR?
Thanks!
Has anyone gotten 5.1 playback in Arcsoft software ( either OEM or upgraded ) of files recorded on the HD PVR?
Thanks!
I get 5.1 with PDVD Ultra 7.3 (retail) and TMT with the file cap's. I convert them to BD format using TsRemux and get 5.1 Blu ray compat discs. The discs shows up in PDVD amd TMT as 5.1 and as 5.1 with the Sony BDP-S350 SA player. I never install the player part from the HD PVR software that came with the device since the playback software is a crippled version of the retail PDVD that I was using already.
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10/30/08 at 3:15pm
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I get 5.1 with PDVD Ultra 7.3 (retail) and TMT with the file cap's. I convert them to BD format using TsRemux and get 5.1 Blu ray compat discs. The discs shows up in PDVD amd TMT as 5.1 and as 5.1 with the Sony BDP-S350 SA player. I never install the player part from the HD PVR software that came with the device since the playback software is a crippled version of the retail PDVD that I was using already.
I get 5.1 with PDVD Ultra 7.3 (retail) and TMT with the file cap's. I convert them to BD format using TsRemux and get 5.1 Blu ray compat discs. The discs shows up in PDVD amd TMT as 5.1 and as 5.1 with the Sony BDP-S350 SA player. I never install the player part from the HD PVR software that came with the device since the playback software is a crippled version of the retail PDVD that I was using already.
Tinker, are any of your created 5.1 blu ray discs full lenght movies and have your tested them from beginning to end for audio synch problems???. I have found that the first hour or so is fine but after that they are full of audio sycnh probs.
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10/30/08 at 6:37pm
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Tinker, are any of your created 5.1 blu ray discs full lenght movies and have your tested them from beginning to end for audio synch problems???. I have found that the first hour or so is fine but after that they are full of audio sycnh probs.
Tinker, are any of your created 5.1 blu ray discs full lenght movies and have your tested them from beginning to end for audio synch problems???. I have found that the first hour or so is fine but after that they are full of audio sycnh probs.
I mainly cap HDNet concerts or other concerts from Super Channel HD recorded on a SA8300HD cable PVR . All the final concert discs are sync, but sometimes I have to redo to get it to sync tho. I just recorded and converted The Rocky Horror Picture Show, the beginning with the big red lips was outa sync, but after I did a redo the synce was fine, but this is noticable at the time of recording so I just restarted the record again. I recorded some other movies and the sync was OK.
BTW: none are live recordings. All are from the SA8300HD. Also I use the default settings for recording.
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10/31/08 at 7:29pm
Thanks Tinker,
I can't get anything over an hour long to synch. In fact, everytime I used a dual layer dvd I have had synch problems. I don't know if it just a problem writing the second layer. All the Avchd discs I have created that were put on a single layer dvd, were perfect though. Hopefully, the TME upgrade Hauppauge promised us would solve all of these anomalies.
Best Regards
I can't get anything over an hour long to synch. In fact, everytime I used a dual layer dvd I have had synch problems. I don't know if it just a problem writing the second layer. All the Avchd discs I have created that were put on a single layer dvd, were perfect though. Hopefully, the TME upgrade Hauppauge promised us would solve all of these anomalies.
Best Regards
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10/31/08 at 8:24pm
Are any of you in Chicago by chance? I am recording all the Cleveland Cavaliers games in HD this year via the HD PVR and a handful of the 82 games aren't being shown locally in HD. Next Saturday's game is one of those, however, in Chicago on the Bulls station they are showing it in HD. Would anyone be able to record this for me? Please let me know, I would be very grateful. I can send you media to record it to (either BD-RE if you have a Blu Ray burner or DVD-R DL if you have just a DVD recorder.). Please let me know...
Thanks,
Matt
Thanks,
Matt
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10/31/08 at 9:47pm
No A/V sync problems here. At least at 720p. I've captured a three hour movie off of my satellite DVR with graphedit and authored using Tsmuxer. Burned to a +R DL. Everything as far as A/V sync is fine. Doubled the bit rate - captured and burned to two DL discs and again no problems with A/V sync.
Not sure about 1080i. I'll give it a test and report back.
Not sure about 1080i. I'll give it a test and report back.
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10/31/08 at 10:54pm
I got a new D2 version box, the the slots cut in the bottom. I have no fan running during capture now with this box, so I emailed hauppauge to see what is up, and they informed me that the new boxes do NOT have fans in them anymore, just the slots to let in air. How many times are they going to change this. Seems hard to believe the little slots in the bottom are going to do much without slots in the top? Anyone else have a D2 box that can confirm they have no fan? Thanks....................
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11/1/08 at 7:16am
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I got a new D2 version box, the the slots cut in the bottom. I have no fan running during capture now with this box, so I emailed hauppauge to see what is up, and they informed me that the new boxes do NOT have fans in them anymore, just the slots to let in air. How many times are they going to change this.
I got a new D2 version box, the the slots cut in the bottom. I have no fan running during capture now with this box, so I emailed hauppauge to see what is up, and they informed me that the new boxes do NOT have fans in them anymore, just the slots to let in air. How many times are they going to change this.
The first release units had no slots or fans- they overheated due to a under performing IC being over-volted to bring it up to published specs- turned out to be the wrong way to fix the problem w/the IC.
When Hauppauge got the first wave of returns from customers they simply cut some vent slots in the case and added a powered fan... they also modded all first gen units in stock and in the pipeline the same way.
Now it seems likely that they've finally fixed the under performing IC issue the correct way (rather than just simply over-volting it) and they no longer need the fan, but are keeping the vent slots. If this is indeed what has occurred, then this "D2" unit will likely be the last major hardware revision for a long while.
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11/1/08 at 9:52am
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11/1/08 at 2:14pm
Not to bore everybody to death with Mac content again, but just to get it on the record, here's a process for cross-platform capture, editing and viewing.
1. Capture in Windows with the included ArcSoft package.
2. Import the resulting file into EyeTV 3.x using this procedure:
http://forums.elgato.com/viewtopic.php?p=14609#p14609
3. Edit in EyeTV. The resulting file will be in a "Live Recording.eyetv" container in your Home>Documents>EyeTV Archive folder. Change the suffix to .ts (or really to anything) and you can open it as a folder. The edited file inside will be a long string of numbers followed by .mpg. Rename it as you see fit, leaving .mpg as a suffix. Quicktime will not play this file.
4. Put the file in a directory accessible by Plex, then open Plex, and navigate to the file normally. It should play back fine.
This is a pretty tedious process, requiring two real-time recordings and use of a bleeding-edge-new playback app (Plex), but it does work, and the end file does not get reencoded at any point. You're still seeing the original video as recorded by the Hauppauge box.
ElGato has hinted that they may add HD PVR capability to EyeTV down the line (I'm signed on as a tester in case it ever sees the light of day), which would presumably provide a soup-to-nuts Mac solution, but for now that's still vapor. So don't trash that XP partition anytime soon...
1. Capture in Windows with the included ArcSoft package.
2. Import the resulting file into EyeTV 3.x using this procedure:
http://forums.elgato.com/viewtopic.php?p=14609#p14609
3. Edit in EyeTV. The resulting file will be in a "Live Recording.eyetv" container in your Home>Documents>EyeTV Archive folder. Change the suffix to .ts (or really to anything) and you can open it as a folder. The edited file inside will be a long string of numbers followed by .mpg. Rename it as you see fit, leaving .mpg as a suffix. Quicktime will not play this file.
4. Put the file in a directory accessible by Plex, then open Plex, and navigate to the file normally. It should play back fine.
This is a pretty tedious process, requiring two real-time recordings and use of a bleeding-edge-new playback app (Plex), but it does work, and the end file does not get reencoded at any point. You're still seeing the original video as recorded by the Hauppauge box.
ElGato has hinted that they may add HD PVR capability to EyeTV down the line (I'm signed on as a tester in case it ever sees the light of day), which would presumably provide a soup-to-nuts Mac solution, but for now that's still vapor. So don't trash that XP partition anytime soon...
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11/2/08 at 3:09am
Are the Elgato Turbo H.264, ADS Instant Video To-Go and the Hauppauge HD PVR essentially the 'same/equivallent' devices ?
Reading http://www.mobilygen.com/downloads/M...al_highres.pdf and
http://www.mobilygen.com/downloads/M...al_highres.pdf
I think that the latest reference device does 'about the same' as what the Hauppauge HD PVR does.
So I assume that converting captured media could/should be doable by the hardware.
Reading http://www.mobilygen.com/downloads/M...al_highres.pdf and
http://www.mobilygen.com/downloads/M...al_highres.pdf
I think that the latest reference device does 'about the same' as what the Hauppauge HD PVR does.
So I assume that converting captured media could/should be doable by the hardware.
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Are the Elgato Turbo H.264, ADS Instant Video To-Go and the Hauppauge HD PVR essentially the 'same/equivallent' devices ?
Reading http://www.mobilygen.com/downloads/M...al_highres.pdf and
http://www.mobilygen.com/downloads/M...al_highres.pdf
I think that the latest reference device does 'about the same' as what the Hauppauge HD PVR does.
So I assume that converting captured media could/should be doable by the hardware.
Are the Elgato Turbo H.264, ADS Instant Video To-Go and the Hauppauge HD PVR essentially the 'same/equivallent' devices ?
Reading http://www.mobilygen.com/downloads/M...al_highres.pdf and
http://www.mobilygen.com/downloads/M...al_highres.pdf
I think that the latest reference device does 'about the same' as what the Hauppauge HD PVR does.
So I assume that converting captured media could/should be doable by the hardware.
No there not even close to HD PVR equivallent encoding power there are mainly for Mobile devices and Internet streaming meaning they are low resolution video capture or transcoder for Apple Video iPod and Sony PSP, PS3 and NW-A800, Archos, QuickTime and YouTube which only defined up to 800x600 max resolution.
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11/2/08 at 7:50am
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11/2/08 at 10:16am
I have PowerDVD Ultra OEM from an LG GGW-H20L Blu-Ray Burner (two channel audio) and I'm still using the older 1.0b drivers for the Hauppauge HD PVR. For some reason no matter what I can't get any audio for my Hauppauge HD PVR H.264 (AVC) .ts recorded files. It looks great but no audio. The same is true of Nero Showtime with the BD / HD Plug-in. The only program that I have that plays audio with these files is the included OEM Arcsoft TotalTheater Extreme package. I've edited the registry so that Vista Media Center can play these files and see them under "Videos" but again no audio. Using WMP11 shows "Audio Codec: Cyberlink Audio Decoder / Video Codec: Cyberlink H.264/AVC Decoder (PDVD7.x)" under properties.
Any ideas as to how I can get audio to play for these .ts files?
Thanks in advance!
Oct.
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Went from PowerDVD Ultra version 7.3.33190 to 7.3.4102a.0 and still no audio. PowerDVD Ultra will play BD and HD movies with 2ch audio just fine but not these .ts files.
Any ideas as to how I can get audio to play for these .ts files?
Thanks in advance!
Oct.
***edit***
Went from PowerDVD Ultra version 7.3.33190 to 7.3.4102a.0 and still no audio. PowerDVD Ultra will play BD and HD movies with 2ch audio just fine but not these .ts files.
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11/2/08 at 11:19am
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I have PowerDVD Ultra OEM from an LG GGW-H20L Blu-Ray Burner (two channel audio) and I'm still using the older 1.0b drivers for the Hauppauge HD PVR. For some reason no matter what I can't get any audio for my Hauppauge HD PVR H.264 (AVC) .ts recorded files. It looks great but no audio. The same is true of Nero Showtime with the BD / HD Plug-in. The only program that I have that plays audio with these files is the included OEM Arcsoft TotalTheater Extreme package. I've edited the registry so that Vista Media Center can play these files and see them under "Videos" but again no audio. Using WMP11 shows "Audio Codec: Cyberlink Audio Decoder / Video Codec: Cyberlink H.264/AVC Decoder (PDVD7.x)" under properties.
Any ideas as to how I can get audio to play for these .ts files?
Thanks in advance!
Oct.
***edit***
Went from PowerDVD Ultra version 7.3.33190 to 7.3.4102a.0 and still no audio. PowerDVD Ultra will play BD and HD movies with 2ch audio just fine but not these .ts files.
I have PowerDVD Ultra OEM from an LG GGW-H20L Blu-Ray Burner (two channel audio) and I'm still using the older 1.0b drivers for the Hauppauge HD PVR. For some reason no matter what I can't get any audio for my Hauppauge HD PVR H.264 (AVC) .ts recorded files. It looks great but no audio. The same is true of Nero Showtime with the BD / HD Plug-in. The only program that I have that plays audio with these files is the included OEM Arcsoft TotalTheater Extreme package. I've edited the registry so that Vista Media Center can play these files and see them under "Videos" but again no audio. Using WMP11 shows "Audio Codec: Cyberlink Audio Decoder / Video Codec: Cyberlink H.264/AVC Decoder (PDVD7.x)" under properties.
Any ideas as to how I can get audio to play for these .ts files?
Thanks in advance!
Oct.
***edit***
Went from PowerDVD Ultra version 7.3.33190 to 7.3.4102a.0 and still no audio. PowerDVD Ultra will play BD and HD movies with 2ch audio just fine but not these .ts files.
The audio files created with 1.0 version were aac, which I've never gotten to play in Cyberlink. If you want them to play in WMP, you could install ffdshow-tryouts or you could change the merit value of the Arcsoft Audio Decoder to be the preferred audio decoder.
If you upgrade to the newest drivers for the HDPVR, you can change the default audio to be AC3 and then Cyberlink will play the ts files without any problem, everything seems to support ac3 audio, but aac seems to be hit and miss. I'm not sure why so many programs have problems with the aac, it almost seems like they don't expect aac audio in a ts file.
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11/2/08 at 1:33pm
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11/2/08 at 5:56pm
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I got a new D2 version box, the the slots cut in the bottom. I have no fan running during capture now with this box, so I emailed hauppauge to see what is up, and they informed me that the new boxes do NOT have fans in them anymore, just the slots to let in air. How many times are they going to change this. Seems hard to believe the little slots in the bottom are going to do much without slots in the top? Anyone else have a D2 box that can confirm they have no fan? Thanks....................
I got a new D2 version box, the the slots cut in the bottom. I have no fan running during capture now with this box, so I emailed hauppauge to see what is up, and they informed me that the new boxes do NOT have fans in them anymore, just the slots to let in air. How many times are they going to change this. Seems hard to believe the little slots in the bottom are going to do much without slots in the top? Anyone else have a D2 box that can confirm they have no fan? Thanks....................
Anyone with a D2 version box?.............
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11/2/08 at 8:52pm
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11/2/08 at 9:04pm
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Well, that sux, I'll fix it next time I update the program, I found the problem, hopefully the fix won't cause any other problems.
Edit: Thanks for letting me know about the problem, I see several more potentials created by not having a config file, which I'll get straightened out.
Well, that sux, I'll fix it next time I update the program, I found the problem, hopefully the fix won't cause any other problems.
Edit: Thanks for letting me know about the problem, I see several more potentials created by not having a config file, which I'll get straightened out.
Any update on this Rebkell? I get the same error message reported about not having a config.xml file and then the program terminates with an exception. I don't have an earlier version to start in order to build the config file so basically I can't see any workaround. Is there something I can manually create to get the program to run then build the config file from there?
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11/2/08 at 9:22pm
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Any update on this Rebkell? I get the same error message reported about not having a config.xml file and then the program terminates with an exception. I don't have an earlier version to start in order to build the config file so basically I can't see any workaround. Is there something I can manually create to get the program to run then build the config file from there?
Any update on this Rebkell? I get the same error message reported about not having a config.xml file and then the program terminates with an exception. I don't have an earlier version to start in order to build the config file so basically I can't see any workaround. Is there something I can manually create to get the program to run then build the config file from there?
I uploaded KLToolBox2.3.zip, see if it will work for you.
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11/2/08 at 9:33pm
I know I'm coming to this party really late but better late than never. I purchased my unit at a "local" Fry's Electronics a couple of weeks ago. It's taken me most of the time since then to completely read this thread, doh!
I really am grateful to the early adopters' experiences posted here as they've really helped me in getting my own unit set up. So far I've not done a complete program capture as I'm still getting things ironed out. What I have done is tried a simple capture through TME (mildly successful). My capture computer is woefully underpowered for AVCHD so when I attempted to capture full 1080i input along with 5.1 audio via S/PDIF the capture application 'hung.' I let it run for several minutes and then terminated it via Windows task manager. Sure enough, there was a captured file which played back fine on my more adequately powered desktop machine.
Next up was to try to reduce the capture horsepower needed by using the graphedit/rcTVCap solution. I was able to build the graph following the directions outlined by ARogan and the discussion here. Then I simply tested the graph by "playing" it in real time. I captured roughly 25 minutes without incident! Hopefully this will save me some $$ in not having to replace my capture machine.
I took my sample capture clips to my dual core machine which has several AVCHD editing software packages loaded (Nero 8, Vegas 8, etc). Nero Showtime played back the clips flawlessly. I was also able to bring them into Vegas 8 and put them on the timeline. I was going to try to burn an AVCHD disk from Vegas but decided not to wait for the recode (Vegas forces a recode for AVCHD even if you don't modify it, ugh). Instead, I used tsMuxeR to create the Blu-Ray directories and burned an AVCHD disc via Nero burning ROM (UDF 2.5). This played back perfectly on my blu-ray set top player. It would appear that I have a somewhat proven path for capturing real-time programming from my Comcast HD STB.
What hasn't worked so well was the experiment I tried to capture from my blu-ray player. I initially used TME just to see the capture preview on my laptop. First, I noticed that it was indicating 720x480 input?? Then I realized that my blu-ray player was set to output 1080p which the HD PVR can't take. I adjusted it to output 1080i which resolved that part. However, the audio was another matter. All I kept getting was a very annoying hum from the audio. When this happened it would keep the device in this state until I power cycled it to restore it. I found this same result trying to capture via graphedit as well (though it gladly captured for over 30 minutes. Great video but only the annoying hum for audio). Not sure what else to do here to trouble shoot this one (btw, same audio cable was used to connect the Comcast STB so it's not a bad cable). I even tried unplugging the HDMI output from the blu-ray in case it was somehow disabling the optical output for some reason - still no joy. This isn't critical (it's not the reason I bought the unit in the first place) but the inquisitive side of me is really wanting to know what's not working...
Anyway, a pretty successful foray into this arena. Though there was a lot of reading to catch up on I am very thankful for the experiences posted here to get me up to speed!
I really am grateful to the early adopters' experiences posted here as they've really helped me in getting my own unit set up. So far I've not done a complete program capture as I'm still getting things ironed out. What I have done is tried a simple capture through TME (mildly successful). My capture computer is woefully underpowered for AVCHD so when I attempted to capture full 1080i input along with 5.1 audio via S/PDIF the capture application 'hung.' I let it run for several minutes and then terminated it via Windows task manager. Sure enough, there was a captured file which played back fine on my more adequately powered desktop machine.
Next up was to try to reduce the capture horsepower needed by using the graphedit/rcTVCap solution. I was able to build the graph following the directions outlined by ARogan and the discussion here. Then I simply tested the graph by "playing" it in real time. I captured roughly 25 minutes without incident! Hopefully this will save me some $$ in not having to replace my capture machine.
I took my sample capture clips to my dual core machine which has several AVCHD editing software packages loaded (Nero 8, Vegas 8, etc). Nero Showtime played back the clips flawlessly. I was also able to bring them into Vegas 8 and put them on the timeline. I was going to try to burn an AVCHD disk from Vegas but decided not to wait for the recode (Vegas forces a recode for AVCHD even if you don't modify it, ugh). Instead, I used tsMuxeR to create the Blu-Ray directories and burned an AVCHD disc via Nero burning ROM (UDF 2.5). This played back perfectly on my blu-ray set top player. It would appear that I have a somewhat proven path for capturing real-time programming from my Comcast HD STB.
What hasn't worked so well was the experiment I tried to capture from my blu-ray player. I initially used TME just to see the capture preview on my laptop. First, I noticed that it was indicating 720x480 input?? Then I realized that my blu-ray player was set to output 1080p which the HD PVR can't take. I adjusted it to output 1080i which resolved that part. However, the audio was another matter. All I kept getting was a very annoying hum from the audio. When this happened it would keep the device in this state until I power cycled it to restore it. I found this same result trying to capture via graphedit as well (though it gladly captured for over 30 minutes. Great video but only the annoying hum for audio). Not sure what else to do here to trouble shoot this one (btw, same audio cable was used to connect the Comcast STB so it's not a bad cable). I even tried unplugging the HDMI output from the blu-ray in case it was somehow disabling the optical output for some reason - still no joy. This isn't critical (it's not the reason I bought the unit in the first place) but the inquisitive side of me is really wanting to know what's not working...
Anyway, a pretty successful foray into this arena. Though there was a lot of reading to catch up on I am very thankful for the experiences posted here to get me up to speed!
post #3058 of 5194
11/2/08 at 9:33pm
post #3059 of 5194
11/3/08 at 4:48am
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Originally Posted by Magicspell
I know I'm coming to this party really late but better late than never. I purchased my unit at a "local" Fry's Electronics a couple of weeks ago. It's taken me most of the time since then to completely read this thread, doh!
I really am grateful to the early adopters' experiences posted here as they've really helped me in getting my own unit set up. So far I've not done a complete program capture as I'm still getting things ironed out. What I have done is tried a simple capture through TME (mildly successful). My capture computer is woefully underpowered for AVCHD so when I attempted to capture full 1080i input along with 5.1 audio via S/PDIF the capture application 'hung.' I let it run for several minutes and then terminated it via Windows task manager. Sure enough, there was a captured file which played back fine on my more adequately powered desktop machine.
Next up was to try to reduce the capture horsepower needed by using the graphedit/rcTVCap solution. I was able to build the graph following the directions outlined by ARogan and the discussion here. Then I simply tested the graph by "playing" it in real time. I captured roughly 25 minutes without incident! Hopefully this will save me some $$ in not having to replace my capture machine.
I took my sample capture clips to my dual core machine which has several AVCHD editing software packages loaded (Nero 8, Vegas 8, etc). Nero Showtime played back the clips flawlessly. I was also able to bring them into Vegas 8 and put them on the timeline. I was going to try to burn an AVCHD disk from Vegas but decided not to wait for the recode (Vegas forces a recode for AVCHD even if you don't modify it, ugh). Instead, I used tsMuxeR to create the Blu-Ray directories and burned an AVCHD disc via Nero burning ROM (UDF 2.5). This played back perfectly on my blu-ray set top player. It would appear that I have a somewhat proven path for capturing real-time programming from my Comcast HD STB.
What hasn't worked so well was the experiment I tried to capture from my blu-ray player. I initially used TME just to see the capture preview on my laptop. First, I noticed that it was indicating 720x480 input?? Then I realized that my blu-ray player was set to output 1080p which the HD PVR can't take. I adjusted it to output 1080i which resolved that part. However, the audio was another matter. All I kept getting was a very annoying hum from the audio. When this happened it would keep the device in this state until I power cycled it to restore it. I found this same result trying to capture via graphedit as well (though it gladly captured for over 30 minutes. Great video but only the annoying hum for audio). Not sure what else to do here to trouble shoot this one (btw, same audio cable was used to connect the Comcast STB so it's not a bad cable). I even tried unplugging the HDMI output from the blu-ray in case it was somehow disabling the optical output for some reason - still no joy. This isn't critical (it's not the reason I bought the unit in the first place) but the inquisitive side of me is really wanting to know what's not working...
Anyway, a pretty successful foray into this arena. Though there was a lot of reading to catch up on I am very thankful for the experiences posted here to get me up to speed!
I know I'm coming to this party really late but better late than never. I purchased my unit at a "local" Fry's Electronics a couple of weeks ago. It's taken me most of the time since then to completely read this thread, doh!
I really am grateful to the early adopters' experiences posted here as they've really helped me in getting my own unit set up. So far I've not done a complete program capture as I'm still getting things ironed out. What I have done is tried a simple capture through TME (mildly successful). My capture computer is woefully underpowered for AVCHD so when I attempted to capture full 1080i input along with 5.1 audio via S/PDIF the capture application 'hung.' I let it run for several minutes and then terminated it via Windows task manager. Sure enough, there was a captured file which played back fine on my more adequately powered desktop machine.
Next up was to try to reduce the capture horsepower needed by using the graphedit/rcTVCap solution. I was able to build the graph following the directions outlined by ARogan and the discussion here. Then I simply tested the graph by "playing" it in real time. I captured roughly 25 minutes without incident! Hopefully this will save me some $$ in not having to replace my capture machine.
I took my sample capture clips to my dual core machine which has several AVCHD editing software packages loaded (Nero 8, Vegas 8, etc). Nero Showtime played back the clips flawlessly. I was also able to bring them into Vegas 8 and put them on the timeline. I was going to try to burn an AVCHD disk from Vegas but decided not to wait for the recode (Vegas forces a recode for AVCHD even if you don't modify it, ugh). Instead, I used tsMuxeR to create the Blu-Ray directories and burned an AVCHD disc via Nero burning ROM (UDF 2.5). This played back perfectly on my blu-ray set top player. It would appear that I have a somewhat proven path for capturing real-time programming from my Comcast HD STB.
What hasn't worked so well was the experiment I tried to capture from my blu-ray player. I initially used TME just to see the capture preview on my laptop. First, I noticed that it was indicating 720x480 input?? Then I realized that my blu-ray player was set to output 1080p which the HD PVR can't take. I adjusted it to output 1080i which resolved that part. However, the audio was another matter. All I kept getting was a very annoying hum from the audio. When this happened it would keep the device in this state until I power cycled it to restore it. I found this same result trying to capture via graphedit as well (though it gladly captured for over 30 minutes. Great video but only the annoying hum for audio). Not sure what else to do here to trouble shoot this one (btw, same audio cable was used to connect the Comcast STB so it's not a bad cable). I even tried unplugging the HDMI output from the blu-ray in case it was somehow disabling the optical output for some reason - still no joy. This isn't critical (it's not the reason I bought the unit in the first place) but the inquisitive side of me is really wanting to know what's not working...
Anyway, a pretty successful foray into this arena. Though there was a lot of reading to catch up on I am very thankful for the experiences posted here to get me up to speed!
It sounds like your hum is the result of your player sending a DTS audio track. The HD PVR can capture 5.1 Dolby not DTS. You have a couple of options. Change the audio track in the disc setup menu to DD 5.1. If DD 5.1 is not available then you can change the audio from bitstream to PCM in the player setup menu. If changed to PCM then 2 channel audio will be sent to the HD PVR.
post #3060 of 5194
11/3/08 at 9:31am
In case anyone is interested, this is the reply I got about the 5.1 Audio disk burning update for TME from Arcsoft in mid Oct:
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I believe it's in the works, but this is likely a case where Hauppauge made an estimated release date that isn't going to turn out to be accurate.
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I believe it's in the works, but this is likely a case where Hauppauge made an estimated release date that isn't going to turn out to be accurate.
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