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Just the Player (TMT). Go to add/remove programs and start the uninstaller. When it comes up it'll offer 3 options: Remove, Repair and Modify. Select Modify. Unselect TMT and it will be removed. Reboot and run the installer for the older software and select ONLY TMT for install.

Of course, if .125 is all you have then you'll have to seek a different fix.

Well, I decided to take a plunge and uninstalled TMT, and then reinstalled it from the original CD (version .125). Never touched the capture module, which still works, using that CaptureModule.zip patch.

After I started TME, the update window popped up and I followed the directions and installed the update. It did not do any damage, but it did not help either. My TMT version is still .125, and it still takes about 57% of CPU power (100%, if I close it and open it again). So, I am exactly where I started, before going through the "update". The only difference is that the update window does not pop up any more. So, it appears that .125 is the latest version, which is in conflict with some of the info from ArcSoft's forum.

well, I finally got hit with the "lockup bug" on my self-modified-fan C1 unit... with the latest 1.053 drivers and the 196 update... but I noticed that the mouse was locked up whenever the HDPVR locked up.... so I moved the HDPVR to another USB port, checking in device mangler that the HDPVR was on a port by itself... EUREKA!!! no more lock ups !!!

I don't know if this is the right place to post this, but I got the HD PVR yesterday, and I've been trying to get it to work but I haven't gotten as far as most (recording 5 mins then stopping, etc)

I'm still stuck on:

1. Being able to install drivers and update them (check)
2. Installing the software and the PVR being recognized by TME (check)
3. The capture device disconnecting everytime I plugin an input? (check)

That is my problem, everything seems fine until I actually connect something into the "IN" part on the back or front. Then it disconnects (from being able to recognize it) and suddenly it's as if it isn't connected by USB anymore.

Also, whenever I plug in the USB with something in the Input I get vertical lines that slowly move up the screen over and over, it does this on the television as well.

What could this be?

Are you making the pysical connections with everthing already turned on?

Just thinking ahead,,,,,,,, one HD PVR per machine? Can't hook up more than one to the same box, right?

Arogan has a friend that has more than one on it, he's using rctvcap and just has different graphs set up for each individual machine, he may have more, but I know he has at least two of them on a machine. I think it's all about the USB port as far as addressing them individually, not sure the TME software will work, but as far as recording, it seems to be no problem.

That sounds good but oversimplified. How does one point a graph to a specific USB device.

Arogan, does your friend have more input on this??

When you are building the graph, if more than one unit is powered on, there will be "duplicates" listed in the filter selection dialog. The differences are in the "filter moniker" shown toward the bottom of the dialog: the monikers include something to make the entry unique - on Vista I see that it is the device serial number in hex, I'm, not sure if it's the same on XP (I always thought it was the USB bus id and port number).

But you don't really need to known that or understand it, because there is an easy way. All you need to do is power on only one at a time and build the graph for each in turn - only entries for the unit that is powered on will show up in the filter selection list.

You need to power off the 1212, make all the connections that you want (inputs, USB), power on the source so that there are signals on the inputs, and only then power on the 1212.

The fact that you have not been doing it this way may or may not be "the" problem, but it is certainly "a" problem.

Yeah, the 2nd method sounds the most straight forward. And then all one does is create graphs with different names and point rcTVCap to which graph to record on which unit. Cooking,,,,,, and thanks.

My C1 unit has well over 4000 power-on hours (essentially non-stop since June 6), with more than 10% of that time capturing, and is still going strong. But my spare/test/alternate-source rev C2 unit, with a hundred or so hours on it, has developed pause-itis (it takes a couple-second break from capturing every 2 or 3 minutes). I've sent an RMA request.

So I'm curious, ARogan, how is your E1 unit working out for you?

thanks,

-tom-

Which vendors are shipping E1 units now?

I did, but that was just to test it. I had everything turned off the first time, and then turned it on and this still happens.

Also, those vertical lines that scroll up the TV and monitor happen even when I have the power button the HD PVR off. Even when it's unplugged. The only time it goes away is when I disconnect the source and output from the back or front. Basically when nothing is connected to it other than the USB to the computer and the power.

When everything is connected and then I plug it into the computer, it does the vertical lines and disconnects.


I get that, I tried that the first time, but the unit could be complete turned off and it still does that. It's fine until I connect the source, or connect it to the TV.

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Thank you both for your responses. I'm hoping to fix this soon.

Funny...my C2 units are fine as far as reliable recording goes, and my E1 units have the recording pause issue.

The OEM version of TME supplied to owners of the PVR1212 now supports 5.1 audio - but still cannot write to BD media.

I've come up with one work around (I'm sure there are others):

1) Capture video with 5.1 audio in OEM TME
2) Use OEM TME to create an AVCHD image on the hard disk drive
(the software let's you create an image that actually exceeds DVD capacity)
3) Use Pinnacle Studio 12 to burn the image to BD media

This last step is not well (at all?) documented in the Pinnacle manual
- Launch Pinnacle and start a new project
- click on the 'Make Movie' tab (usually the last step for Pinnacle users)
- click on Disc ouput - a message will complain that there is no content
in the project (Ignore this)
- click on the settings button and under "Burn Options' click "Burn from
previously created content"
- click OK to return to the previous screen
- a message will now display telling you to click the Create button to
choose the BDMV folder
- Select your folder, click OK and the burn process will IMMEDIATELY
commence - NO FURTHER TRANSCODING !

I wanted to do this same thing using Nero but couldn't find a way to keep it from transcoding everything for several hours first! BTW - Don't load the m2ts file into a Pinnacle project - once you do that Pinnacle will transcode (for several hours) before burning!

If anyone is interested in using Pinnacle Studio 12 - you can get it for $69 at Fry's with $69 worth of mail in rebates (i.e. for nothing! into Dec I think).

That's a great tip -- thanks! I paid fifty bucks for the upgrade to the latest Nero, only to discover that very same problem. Tried to get a refund and they said NO. Needless to say, I am through with them.

I have the retail version of TME as well -- but I don't think (even with the latest updates) that it can deal with the 5.1 files created with the new OEM version. I might be wrong about that -- haven't tried it yet.

You can try - but everything will get burned in 2-channel! Eventually, Arcsoft will have to remedy this in the full-retail (hopefully as a free ugrade)
I too am unimpressed with bloated Nero - just glad that the $99 I spent for it several months back at Fry's also came with $99 in rebates!

ARGH! I have the same problem when trying to burn MPEG-2 TiVo HD files with TME -- it insists on doing SOMETHING with the audio -- not sure what, but it ends up being several MINUTES out of sync! I gave up on that for the the moment -- this is all truly a black art.

ImgBurn (v.2.4.2.0) is a free program that will burn Blu-ray discs. It is fast and easy and does not transcode. It is a program that is simply designed for burning.

Be careful using the newest OEM version of TME to create Blu-ray discs. There is a diference in the file structures of AVCHD and Blu-ray discs. The newest version of TME creates the AVCHD file structure. The original OEM version of TME that was included with the 1212 did not. It created a disc with the Blu-ray file structure - this was actually a mistake as it was claiming to create AVCHD discs but rather was creating a BR on DVD disc. This was corrected with the newest TME update which also included the ability to record 5.1 AC3 audio.

The easiest way to tell the difference between the two is that the Blu-ray file structure contains two folders in its root directory. A BDMV folder and a Certificate folder. An AVCHD disc contains just a BDMV folder in its root directory.

I guess it is OK to create an AVCHD disc on Blu-ray but that would not be my choice.

For those having A/V sync issues. You might want to try the following. It works for me. All the programs are freeware.

1. Record using Graphedit

2. Create the BR file structure using TsMuxer. It is fast and easy. Generally less than 20 minutes (for something around 8 GB for example). But does not have any features for creating menus. This program does create a true Blu-ray file structure (not AVCHD) for those interested in burning to Blu-ray discs.

3. Use ImgBurn to burn the disc. At this point you have two choices. Either burn the Blu-ray file structure created by TsMuxer to a Blu-ray disc. Or for those who want to burn an AVCHD disc to a DVD then simply move the Stream, Clipinf and Playlist folders from the BR file structure into an AVCHD file structure and then burn to DVD.

Why AVCHD versus BR on DVD? In some cases BR players will not play BR on DVD discs. While others will. Samsung players for example will play AVCHD discs burned to a DVD but will not play a BR on DVD burned disc.

Using these three free programs has eliminated the A/V sync issues I had when using TME. And everything is a lot faster.

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The wavy lines sound like you may have a ground loop problem. Are any of the components in the HD PVR chain also connected to the PC? If so, disconnect them and see if that fixes it. I would also try using different electrical outlets for the HD PVR as well as plugging the PC into a different outlet. I've followed the HD PVR threads closely and don' remember anyone else having your issues. Good luck.

the_tom and rebkell are both right about the two hd-pvr's on a single machine. My friend who I talk to almost daily has two rev c2's hooked up to the same machine and just painted two graphs. each one pointing to a different hd pvr and it's been working flawlessly for him for months now 24/7. If you notice in rcGraphBuilder there is a device drop down with a number. The default is 0. But if you had two hd pvr's, you can change that number to 1 and build another graph. In theory that should point to your second hd-pvr and so on up to 10. I don't think many people will have more than 11 hd-pvr's on the same machine. Anyways, of course this is all untested since I only have the one hd pvr but in theory it should work.

Still, I like the_tom's idea of only having one on at a time. That sounds like it would work really well too.

None of them are. It's the PS3 and the TV. No matter which one I disconnect it would still form the lines until I disconnect both of them entirely, or remove the USB from the computer.

I also did what you suggested, and tried every possible configuration in terms of where I plug all of the devices, and nothing. I hope I don't have a faulty system, but it doesn't seem so, because when nothing is connected to it, the computer reads and interacts with it just fine, no vertical lines streaming on both screens.

The problem seems to be something involving power because it isn't a colored line, it's a blurry shadowy line, like something is sucking power, etc. It it recorded with the lines, is one thing, but the whole problem is that the system disconnects from the computer/usb the moment I plug it in, and then the computer will no longer recognize it.

Do any of you think a USB hub self-powered on its own would help in anyway? I can't contact customer support because @ Hauppauge is Monday-Friday 9am-6pm (I think) and they weren't open Friday because of the holidays (when I got the unit), what can you do.

Thanks for your suggestions.

It's been on solid for 4 days now and has recorded 28 shows. I won't call it stable until I get at least a few more weeks in.

When I open TME I get a notice to update. Has anyone done this update when using vista 64 and the hd pvr? I did the TMT .126 update and every thing is fine. I am using the latest hd pvr drivers. Thanks..............Brian

I too would like to hear of anyone's experience with this latest TME update on Vista 64 - I have an Acer x1200 (5000+) coming this week and will be configuring it with Vista 64.

My problem was fixed. It was a surge protector. Before I simply removed the devices that are connected to the HD PVR and plug them into other places, this wouldn't work because the TV and sound system were still connected through audio/video cables to other devices still plugged into the protector. When I removed everything from it and plugged everything into other places, all was fine.

Figures.

But thanks for all your advice. Much appreciated.

whats the better file to stream to the PS3? the m2ts or ts file?

Is anyone using this with BeyondTV? I downloaded the trial last night and like the layout, only problem is it won't control the HD PVR. I've run blastcfg and the unit responds to the commands, but when I load beyondtv and go to change channels, nothing happens. Is there a trick to getting this to work?

I've noticed that since accepting the ArcSoft Total Media Extreme update, that the resulting file is now m2ts instead of ts (which will NOT be accepted by the MP4 Converter).

Is there a way in the new version to reset it back so that the resulting digitized file is ts?