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post #1771 of 4168
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Originally Posted by ddgtr View Post

+1

+1 Scubawoman - perhaps you can get the fix that they have in the 906 - presuming it is fixed. Apparently no one who owns one can do a color comparison...yet.
post #1772 of 4168
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Originally Posted by eldithomaso View Post

+1 Scubawoman - perhaps you can get the fix that they have in the 906 - presuming it is fixed. Apparently no one who owns one can do a color comparison...yet.

I did mention the 906 to Steve, told him since it is out if there wasn't a color space issue with it then we had some hope the 905 could be fixed since it had similar hardware. Unfortunately the only thing he may be able to do is have his people apply pressure to Onkyo to get it right since it is their processor they're using. I had previously suggested they work together with Onkyo to resolve it. I also mentioned I had read on the forum people with the 875 had the same issue. Unfortunately after talking to him today I was less than optimistic they will be able to get the issue resolved but I still have some hope.

I had contemplated writing some letters to editors that review the units regarding the unresolved issues and poor customer service but thought I would give it another 2-3 weeks and see what Steve finds out, if anything. If others have the time maybe they could get that going.
post #1773 of 4168
I upgraded my 905 from 1.08 to 1.09 apparently successfully but now I get what looks like camera shake. It was apparent in through mode on some channels, and in fixed 1080p mode it's more consistent, an up down shake. Very bizarre. I'm going to try re-flash the 1.09 tomorrow and see if the problem persists, and if it does, downgrade to 1.08 and hope it goes away. I never had this problem with 1.08 and I wonder if the changes that improved Image Quality for some people is what's causing this problem on my monitor.
post #1774 of 4168
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Originally Posted by eldithomaso View Post

+1 Scubawoman - perhaps you can get the fix that they have in the 906 - presuming it is fixed. Apparently no one who owns one can do a color comparison...yet.

We might have confirmation soon about whether the 906 is fixed. A freshly-minted 906 owner is having an ISF calibration done next week. He said he'll have the tech look for the color space shift.
post #1775 of 4168
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Originally Posted by thotdr View Post

I just received my DTR-8.8 and noticed that when I play the radio on the main speakers as well as Zone 2, Zone 2 is out of sync from the mains. Is anyone else experiencing the same issue? I have an older DTR-6.6 and don't experience the same problem. Is there a fix for this?

The main zone goes through all the processing (Audyssey, etc.) and is therefore delayed. Zone 2 is a straight analog pass with no delay.
post #1776 of 4168
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Originally Posted by jimjr View Post

We might have confirmation soon about whether the 906 is fixed. A freshly-minted 906 owner is having an ISF calibration done next week. He said he'll have the tech look for the color space shift.

I saw that and thought - excellent news. The real question is - if they fixed it in the 906 and the guts are the same - what fixed it? New firmware, new HDMI firmware or what?

I wonder if we will ever know even if it is fixed in the 906?
post #1777 of 4168
Lets hope the functionality of the REON chip has been drastically improved.As fare as it is now it cause more problems on then in pass through mode.It has been a worthless processor for me so fare.
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Originally Posted by eldithomaso View Post

I saw that and thought - excellent news. The real question is - if they fixed it in the 906 and the guts are the same - what fixed it? New firmware, new HDMI firmware or what?

I wonder if we will ever know even if it is fixed in the 906?
post #1778 of 4168
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Originally Posted by Scubawoman View Post

... I had contemplated writing some letters to editors that review the units regarding the unresolved issues and poor customer service but thought I would give it another 2-3 weeks and see what Steve finds out, if anything. If others have the time maybe they could get that going.

I hope you have better luck with that than I did. Even though at least two editors told me they would revisit the NR-1000 debacle (after they recommended it), I was eventually ignored. I never did find any updates - online, or in print.

Onkyo spends a lot of money on advertising. I think you will be hard pressed to find a mag, with decent circulation, bite the Onkyo hand that feed$ them. It would take a real journalist to so...
post #1779 of 4168
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Originally Posted by DCIFRTHS View Post

I hope you have better luck with that than I did. Even though at least two editors told me they would revisit the NR-1000 debacle (after they recommended it), I was eventually ignored. I never did find any updates - online, or in print.

Onkyo spends a lot of money on advertising. I think you will be hard pressed to find a mag, with decent circulation, bite the Onkyo hand that feed$ them. It would take a real journalist to so...

Unfortunately, the only thing that will ever right Onkyo's ship is if the word gets out and people refuse to buy Onkyo's new line-ups. But, as history confirms, that probably will never happen. We certainly aren't getting help from reviewers. Nevertheless, and although futile, I'll still do what little I can to make trouble by peeing in the 906 pond whenever I get a chance. I do believe I hear eldithomaso unzipping in the distance. . . . Nice rant on the 906 thread, by the way.
post #1780 of 4168
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Originally Posted by eldithomaso View Post

I saw that and thought - excellent news. The real question is - if they fixed it in the 906 and the guts are the same - what fixed it? New firmware, new HDMI firmware or what?

I wonder if we will ever know even if it is fixed in the 906?

fyzziks directed the guy on the 906 thread who's having the ISF calibration done to a good thread discussing the problem. If the tech reads it, he'll know what to look for.
post #1781 of 4168
bump Move your butt Onkyo!
post #1782 of 4168
I have been following this whole thread Post to inform me as to update the firmware version of my Onkyo receiver 905, I find the problem that despite all the steps the updater program ends when done correctly and automatically restarts version remains the same: see 1.01/07815L not be here if someone can find out to be, I tried to update to v1.05 and v1.08 and in both the same thing happens to me, tells me that stages the screen are
1 - Write
2 - Complete
3 - Clear an instant and automatically restarts the Recipient

Greetings

Tonijohan
post #1783 of 4168
In reading through the owners thread for the 906 I saw Joel Silver from ISF supposedly worked with Onkyo on these units. I'm going to see if there is a way to get ahold of him regarding the 905 and other last year units to see if he can give us some assistance with the color space issue.
post #1784 of 4168
I sent a message to Onkyo Japan regarding the color space issue. The link is

http://www.intl.onkyo.com/support/lo...ort/japan.html

There is a contact button to click on and a drop down form pops up. Instead of choosing U.S. I chose Japan and hopefully they will get the message instead. I encourage others who would like the color space issue resolved to send a message as well. I did send them the same info. I sent Steve at Silicon Optix. Unfortunately the charts and CIE diagram that fyzziks had posted in the thread would not copy and paste but I did send the text of his info. and the thread pbc has regarding the same in another forum.
post #1785 of 4168
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Originally Posted by jimjr View Post

Unfortunately, the only thing that will ever right Onkyo's ship is if the word gets out and people refuse to buy Onkyo's new line-ups. I do believe I hear eldithomaso unzipping in the distance. . . . Nice rant on the 906 thread, by the way.

Thank you. I do try (zipping sound...). You were far more polite than I. I think much fell on deaf ears though (perhaps too much piss left on the post).

I agree - bad press may get Onkyo's attention if it impacts their bottom line on the new series of receivers. I for one am the electronics guru in my clan and among most friends and co-workers. I can guarantee you they know about Onkyo and won't be buying anytime soon.

Maybe Scubawoman has a nice tight wetsuit and charmingly intellectual and convincing personality (A guy can hope right?) and she can work some magic for us with Joel? I wonder if the 906 IS really fixed since it seems that Joerod and Gurkey have no more to offer from their "connections".
post #1786 of 4168
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Originally Posted by jimjr View Post

Unfortunately, the only thing that will ever right Onkyo's ship is if the word gets out and people refuse to buy Onkyo's new line-ups.

I posted a review of the 905 on Amazon to let others know about Onkyo's customer service regarding firmware updates and unresolved color space issue. I tagged it with the new product line models so hopefully those who search for them will check it out.
post #1787 of 4168
Jerrods departure from this thread should tell Us all what has happened.My conclusion is that after his testing ONKYO decided it was profitable to keep the firmware and its upgrades to the new 06 line=upgrade to a new one.I think jerrod was told to keep a low profile and tow the company line...DENI EVERYTHING.:confused
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Originally Posted by Scubawoman View Post

I posted a review of the 905 on Amazon to let others know about Onkyo's customer service regarding firmware updates and unresolved color space issue. I tagged it with the new product line models so hopefully those who search for them will check it out.
post #1788 of 4168
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Originally Posted by bearfun View Post

Jerrods departure from this thread should tell Us all what has happened.My conclusion is that after his testing ONKYO decided it was profitable to keep the firmware and its upgrades to the new 06 line=upgrade to a new one.I think jerrod was told to keep a low profile and tow the company line...DENI EVERYTHING.:confused

Although it smacks a bit of paranoia, I have to agree. Even paranoid folks have enemies.
post #1789 of 4168
Well, I just jumped ship. If anyone is interested in an excellent condition 805, the DSP update went fine and worked, but it is an early model with loader ver 1.00, so would need to be sent in to Onkyo for FW updates - just let me know.

But this was the last Onkyo I will ever own.
post #1790 of 4168
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Originally Posted by WRX_Rocky View Post

Well, I just jumped ship. If anyone is interested in an excellent condition 805, the DSP update went fine and worked, but it is an early model with loader ver 1.00, so would need to be sent in to Onkyo for FW updates - just let me know.

But this was the last Onkyo I will ever own.

Remember, because WRX is the original owner (well...I presume he is?) the person who buys this unit from him will need to pay for the Loader update when they send the unit back to Onkyo. The warranty isn't transferable
post #1791 of 4168
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Originally Posted by bearfun View Post

Jerrods departure from this thread should tell Us all what has happened.My conclusion is that after his testing ONKYO decided it was profitable to keep the firmware and its upgrades to the new 06 line=upgrade to a new one.I think jerrod was told to keep a low profile and tow the company line...DENI EVERYTHING.:confused

No...I think Joerods departure is because they are working on it. But I can understand why he wouldn't come back. It's because people like you that makes his life miserable. I will never understand why he helps us out?
post #1792 of 4168
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Originally Posted by Scubawoman View Post

I sent a message to Onkyo Japan regarding the color space issue. The link is

http://www.intl.onkyo.com/support/lo...ort/japan.html

There is a contact button to click on and a drop down form pops up. Instead of choosing U.S. I chose Japan and hopefully they will get the message instead. I encourage others who would like the color space issue resolved to send a message as well. I did send them the same info. I sent Steve at Silicon Optix. Unfortunately the charts and CIE diagram that fyzziks had posted in the thread would not copy and paste but I did send the text of his info. and the thread pbc has regarding the same in another forum.

I just sent one as well, but to the Canada one to see if they respond. Anyone want to place a bet?


I'll send one to Japan too ...
post #1793 of 4168
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Originally Posted by B&W700guy View Post

No...I think Joerods departure is because they are working on it. But I can understand why he wouldn't come back. It's because people like you that makes his life miserable. I will never understand why he helps us out?

what joe has gone from here????
post #1794 of 4168
Urgent help

I started to update the dsp. Get it to the Udate flashing on receiver monitor; play the cd in cd player with optical cable connect ot opt 1. It play the cd which is about 1:48 minutes. However, the Udate still flashing for about20 minutes now. I got curious so I hit the cd button again then go back to check the firmware version. All the DSP are now: ?????????????.

I got panics and do the updating again.

Can you help me by:

1. Can you tell what did I do wrong?
2. Can I unplug them and plug them later for master reset?
3. Or what can I do to at least get back the original?

As of right now, it still has: S/PDIFUPDATE .....(FLASHING)
post #1795 of 4168
Thread Starter 
Most seem to forget that this thread was (and is) not about gurkey's and joerod's well feeling and why they are the "big" heroes, but about the inability of Onkyo / Integra to provide updates for (older or still remaining) issues in their units in a decent way.

Just to burst some bubbles.
Those firmwares provided here and elsewhere where not the outcome of "secret" connections to the inner layers or hidden leaks of either company but were contributions of other users around the world, who had gotten hold of one or the other firmware or DSP version available there.

Our (mine and joerod's) contribution was, to collect those data into a single place and provide an information source built upon other users experiences.
We chose different ways of distributing this information to others.
To the best of my knowledge and what I have been able to garner elsewhere, no "alpha", "beta" or "gamma" firmware versions ever where leaked from Onkyo / Integra this way or have been "tested" here by anyone, officially or unofficially. We made just available, what already was there, may be not readily, but already on the market somewhere around the world.
Nothing to be "disclosed" as stated elsewhere. Ans as such no NDAs either.

The reason, why nothing new is coming out right now, simply is, that there is nothing available right now. And there is no proven indication, that anything is or has been developed currently for those outgoing models. Anything else stated is unsubstantiated. Judging by known practices in the consumer electronics world, this might be end of life of this model generation. Nothing been withhold from the public, hidden on the shelves of inside or outside laboratories or development departments.

Because of this, nothing has ever been provided, which Onkyo / Integra had not handed out "officially" somewhere around the world.
No "secrets" or anything else here.
And as such no reason to go after someone either for anything on display here.
The "jigs" talked about are been described in their official Service manuals (in addition to the original manufacturers descriptions).
The SMs are readily available around the net from official providers, which specialize on this.

I don't want to perpetuate anything any further if it's unsubstantiated.

PS.: The recent reply from Onkyo Japan, posted by scubawoman, affirms, that their is no intent to have any further firmware updates nor has there been any new firmware on development for any model in the meantime (since May), as stated elsewhere. Everything mentioned in this respect was baseless. As such this thread might end right here.
post #1796 of 4168
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Originally Posted by B&W700guy View Post

Remember, because WRX is the original owner (well...I presume he is?) the person who buys this unit from him will need to pay for the Loader update when they send the unit back to Onkyo. The warranty isn't transferable

Yes, I AM the original owner, and I can work around the roadblock you have setup. If the warranty is non-transferable, then I can send it myself directly to Onkyo for them to (under warranty) do the FW upgrade, then have them ship it to the new owner when it is completed. And, the extended CC warranty I have on it IS transferable, and has 3 more years on it.

Now of course, another option would be for me to transfer the CC extended warranty to the new owner, they then bring it to CC to be "repaired", and if they cannot do it (doubt they can, as not an official Onkyo SC), then they could possibly swap it out for the new 806 if they wanted to, or use the credit given (full retail from 6/06) towards a higher model or even another brand that CC carries (or can order??? Denon perhaps?).

So it is not all that bad as you make it out to be.
post #1797 of 4168
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Originally Posted by WRX_Rocky View Post

Yes, I AM the original owner, and I can work around the roadblock you have setup. If the warranty is non-transferable, then I can send it myself directly to Onkyo for them to (under warranty) do the FW upgrade, then have them ship it to the new owner when it is completed. And, the extended CC warranty I have on it IS transferable, and has 3 more years on it.

Now of course, another option would be for me to transfer the CC extended warranty to the new owner, they then bring it to CC to be "repaired", and if they cannot do it (doubt they can, as not an official Onkyo SC), then they could possibly swap it out for the new 806 if they wanted to, or use the credit given (full retail from 6/06) towards a higher model or even another brand that CC carries (or can order??? Denon perhaps?).

So it is not all that bad as you make it out to be.

Sorry, just don't want to see somebody stuck with a unit that should be sent in by you for a proper repair I am not setting up any road blocks....well unless you are trying to unloaded it with out tell them the issues? On your other statements...I understand where you are coming from
post #1798 of 4168
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Originally Posted by B&W700guy View Post

Sorry, just don't want to see somebody stuck with a unit that should be sent in by you for a proper repair I am not setting up any road blocks....well unless you are trying to unloaded it with out tell them the issues? On your other statements...I understand where you are coming from

Thanks, and thanks for understanding and giving me the benefit of doubt (respect). No, I would not sell it without informing. Soon as I make the post on E-Bay, I will offer all of that, with explanation. My ONLY worry, is how to convey the trust for the new buyer to allow the time between sale, to Onkyo repairing it, and then send it to the new buyer. Guess just keep the funds in Paypal until they receive it. But no matter what, I would not just sell it without an explanation of what is needed.
post #1799 of 4168
Why doesn't every owner of a 875/905/9.8 just band together alert Sillicon Optix that their chip is compromised. Then you should seek legal action against Onkyo.
post #1800 of 4168
If anyone is using the Oppo 983h with an Onkyo 885, please send me a PM, or post here, and let me know if you are able to get sound when bitstreaming.
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