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post #61 of 149
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Originally Posted by img eL View Post

nellee, U can hook up your SR11 through USB to your PS3 to view. You don't need the DVDA software. U burn simple data discs with avchd files.

Thanks, I am doing that right now to view directly from SR11 to TV, but would like to do some "fun" edits, slap onto a DVD and possibly send to friends or family to play on their PS3s as well.
post #62 of 149
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Originally Posted by nellee View Post

Thanks, I am doing that right now to view directly from SR11 to TV, but would like to do some "fun" edits, slap onto a DVD and possibly send to friends or family to play on their PS3s as well.

Yep just edit when your Vegas 8 arrives, then data burn your edits!
post #63 of 149
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Originally Posted by img eL View Post

nellee, U can hook up your SR11 through USB to your PS3 to view. You don't need the DVDA software. U burn simple data discs with avchd files.

I don't have my copy yet, but the trial version I have already installed includes the option to burn an AVCHD disk, albeit a AVCHD DVD w/o menus.

As I look at the specs for the DVDA, there is nothing mentioned indicating anything for HD (AVCHD or otherwise). I think it only produces DVD's - standard definition, but apparently with great options for menus etc, but nothing you will miss if your target is Blu-ray disk/player/PS3.

But for some reason, Sony packaged some elements relating to AC-3 sound in the DVDarchitect program. I suspect that may be missed ... the trial version still has 5.1 sound capabilities, so hopefully it won't be missed too much.
post #64 of 149
I stay away from special avchd burns, those take eons. All data discs for me.
post #65 of 149
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Originally Posted by img eL View Post

I stay away from special avchd burns, those take eons. All data discs for me.

Actually that's not true. If you're careful to export your M2TS with the proper settings from Vegas, and import to Ulead, there will be no re-encoding necessary and the burning will occur right after you're finished setting up your menus and such.... It's pretty fast.
post #66 of 149
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by slimoli View Post

Mike

As far as I know (not much !) , we can only use the 2nd monitor as the preview monitor. That's what I wanted, anyway.

Sergio

Same here - sounds good.
post #67 of 149
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Originally Posted by bigbarney View Post

Actually that's not true. If you're careful to export your M2TS with the proper settings from Vegas, and import to Ulead, there will be no re-encoding necessary and the burning will occur right after you're finished setting up your menus and such.... It's pretty fast.

You tipped me to this method in another thread where it would read like a Rom disc with menus without burning a avchd disc type but reads just like one.
post #68 of 149
OK. Here is the cookbook for AVCHD burning :

If you ONLY have the Vegas 8 Pro, this CD version, WITHOUT the DVD Architect:

-Import the video to Vegas 8 Pro. Edit and do whatever you want like in any other NLE. Go to "tools', burn Bluray disk. Use the wav64 audio format (the only option since the pro AC3 only comes with DVDA) and you will get a nice AVCHD/BluRay disk playable on the PS3. This is a data disk and you need to select the "stream' file on the PS3 to playback it. The audio will be PCM 5.1 uncompressed, beaultiful. Downside ? No menus.

-If you also have the Ulead VS11+ or equivalent (Pinnacle ?) : Instead of going straight to burn Bluray, go to FILE and RENDER AS. Choose Sony AVC and AVCHD NTSC 5.1 surround from the template. Create the avchd file and save it.
Open VS11+, go straight to "share' and "create disk' . Select AVCHD, add the file you created with Vegas, choose the settings , create menu (or not) and burn a nice BD disk playable on ANY BD player. I tested the PS3 and the Panny BD30. Downside ? None.

Sergio
post #69 of 149
Ok here are my questions

I have vegas movie studio platinum and there is no h.264 1920 x 1080 render option from what i could find.

1. Does this Cd only Vegas pro 8 from B&H have the Sony’s h.264 AVC encoder?


2.Also I have DVDA studio 4.5 which came with the vegas so I should be able to author SD DVDs as I have with Vegas MS Platinum?

3.When I click make a movie in vegas MS Platinum, I get a prompt to send project ot DVDA. Is this the same as the Pro 8 version we are talking about.


My main reason for wanting the Pro 8 version is to get the burn blue
ray disc option. I do not have this in the MS Platinum version. I also want the additional editing tools like mask ect...

For the price it sounds good. I reallly dont care about not having the AC3 for now since my dream home theater system is still a few years away.

I have a Sony SR12 and post to Vimeo I think the sony h.264 AVC encoder will speed up my render times.

I also only burn SD DVD's to share with family. I will be getting a PS3 soon for the data burns for me.


4.So all in all is this a good deal then.... it is exactly the same as the $450+ box??
post #70 of 149
Thread Starter 
I think Sergio(slimoli) or bigbarney are the guys to answer your questions Paul.

Perhaps they'll look in here.

BTW: What number version of Movie studio platinum do you have?
post #71 of 149
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Originally Posted by Cyrano View Post

I think Sergio(slimoli) or bigbarney are the guys to answer your questions Paul.

Perhaps they'll look in here.

BTW: What number version of Movie studio platinum do you have?

its version 8

I ordered the cd from B&H on sunday night. I figured I would give it a try.Now my order still says its processing on the B&H site???
post #72 of 149
News update from NAB Sony tonight-


At the Sony party tonight they announced that DVD Architecture v 5.0 (4.5 is out now) will fully support the AVCHD media in addition to Blu Ray media.

Plus- for any who have purchased and are registered Sony Vegas 8 + DVDA 4.5 packages, the upgrade will be free to the new version. Expected release date is June and it will be a download based on your serial number registered.


I also thought I heard them say that people who have the consumer version of Vegas, Platinum will get a free downloaded upgrade to a new version that will support AVCHD which is only available in Vegas 8.0 pro now.

I saw the DVDA 5.0 and we placed the m2ts video in the DVDA timeline. It also will enable you to export the DVD authoring to a DVD-r for AVCHD out or for an mpeg2 BluRay disk burn.

I read above another misconception- The PMB software can receive the m2ts file created in Vegas 8b rendered from your timeline and then you CAN ADD MENUs in the PMB software and burn a DVD-r disk with the AVCHD edited file for a program maximum time of 34 minutes. If you need longer, you'll need to split the project or go to Blu Disk media and a Blu disk burner and output a transcoded file to mpeg2.

The rendering time in Vegas isn't that much greater unless you are transcoding as well. I rendered a 17 minute piece in 1hr 20 minutes IIRC to AVCHD. The DVD authoring in PMB was simple and that burn took about the same time as any SD burn of about 2 Gb on the DVD-r. I then rendered Vegas timeline to a wm9 file same pixel size and the render took 5 and a half hours from the same timeline. The wm9 file is a little over 1 Gb. so I don't think I will upload the video. I have the room on my server but I am on Verizon EVDO and that would chew up 25 % of my monthly allotment.
post #73 of 149
Any news from vegas pro 8.0c at NAB ?
post #74 of 149
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Originally Posted by rldivide View Post

Any news from vegas pro 8.0c at NAB ?


Can you be more specific? What problem with b are you having that needs attention. I'll ask for you.

They did say that b version fixed a problem of HDV clips hanging in the timeline during preview. I skipped past ver a and I haven't been using b long enough to see any problems. (yet)
post #75 of 149
Vegas Pro 8.0b can't read some AVCHD files (specifically thoses from Panasonic SD9 (except for the lowest quality mode), and thoses from Canon HF10 shot in progressive mode) so I'm really looking forward 8.0c for a fix..
I can provide samples if needed.
post #76 of 149
For those who bought the Vegas 8 Pro, cd version, without the Architect 4.5, I wonder if the DVDA 5 will be available as an upgrade. We can't purchase the DVDA Pro 4.5.

Sergio
post #77 of 149
Does the Movie Studio Platinum version of Vegas get updates (8.0b, c, etc...)? Just wondering if the fixes get applied to both / all version of Vegas (if the fix is relavent to the features of the version).
post #78 of 149
I'll try to ask today about the fix for AVCHD for people with other than Sony camcorders.
Good question! I do recall that someone there said they do not support the 24p modes, no plans at this time to do that. And for good reason- 24p is a mode intended to go to film distribution. The pros often joke about so many people making believe they are film producers because they shoot with 24p but stay in video. Personally, as a content producer of TV, I'm happy to remain in the 60p or 29.97 frame rates.

I'll also see about an upgrade path but my suggestion is to view the website for info like that. It's hard enough getting to these guys with the crowds and I don't like to waste time with Q&A than can be answered on the web.
post #79 of 149
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Originally Posted by Beaker1024 View Post

Does the Movie Studio Platinum version of Vegas get updates (8.0b, c, etc...)? Just wondering if the fixes get applied to both / all version of Vegas (if the fix is relavent to the features of the version).


I think the updates are seperate because the latest update is Vegas Movie Studio Platinum 8d (build 139)

the pro is 8b
also the versions of DVD Architect are studio for the platinum and pro fro the pro 8 version of vegas

So
Vegas Movie Studio Platinum 8d + DVD Architect Studio 4.5
Vegas Pro 8b + DVD Architect Pro 4.5
post #80 of 149
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Originally Posted by rldivide View Post

Vegas Pro 8.0b can't read some AVCHD files (specifically thoses from Panasonic SD9 (except for the lowest quality mode), and thoses from Canon HF10 shot in progressive mode) so I'm really looking forward 8.0c for a fix..
I can provide samples if needed.

I got to Michael Bryant today with your question. Specifically with Panasonic- He claims you can read the consumer level Panasonic AVCHD but not the broadcast version. However, he said many are having problems as they will try to move the camcorder files to the computer with a simple drag and drop. He said you should use the software included with your camcorder to move the files. Without that you will be missing the important meta data that is required. That was his suggestion. I asked about Canon and JVC and he said same deal, don't drag and drop use the software included with your camcorder. He didn't seem certain about 24p but felt it would work too. This was contrary to what another Sony rep told me. Go Figure. Michael is the hed of the division on this line so he should know. Give that a try and let me know. I'll be here for the show at least one more day, maybe Thursday too before heading out to play tourist with my SR12.
post #81 of 149
Paul-

There is a $100 deal off on a NAB special and and $150 off if you switch from a competitor's NLE. Do you need the NAB card to get that deal? I can grab one for you tomorrow and mail it to you.
post #82 of 149
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Originally Posted by Don Landis View Post

Paul-

There is a $100 deal off on a NAB special and and $150 off if you switch from a competitor's NLE. Do you need the NAB card to get that deal? I can grab one for you tomorrow and mail it to you.

was this directed at me?
If so, I ordered the Cd from B&H already its on a truck on its way
We'll see how this little deal works out.
I dont go to the casino's to gamble. I do it with software
post #83 of 149
Thanks for the tip Don, I'll give it a try as soon as I get my Canon HF10 (I've sold my Pana SD9 a few weeks ago).
post #84 of 149
so what am i doing wrong here? i blew a small fortune on an sr11 and vegas pro 8, and vegas will not even recognize the .mts files. i recorded some clips to the memory stick (which incidentally are recognized and play flawlessly in the ps3) and then transferred the files to my pc. booted up vegas 8b pro and it doesn't even recognize the clips. what gives? i'm wondering if i'm missing a step here, but even so, why does vegas not even acknowledge that mts files even exist?
post #85 of 149
I got my copy today from B&H.
On the disc, it says installation DVD??? no matter I installed the most recent version from the sony site like slimoli mentioned and just used the serial of the disc.

Worked great no problem with AVCHD files from mu SR12.

However. The clip I opened in my new pro8 was a 5.1 surround and it auto downsampled to stereo.

When I open the same clip in my platinum version I get a prompt to open as 5.1. This does not happen in the pro 8



Now I am not complaining at all I usually use external mics alot so 5.1 is not important to me but others my have issues.


So far so good for me.
post #86 of 149
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Originally Posted by talbain View Post

so what am i doing wrong here? i blew a small fortune on an sr11 and vegas pro 8, and vegas will not even recognize the .mts files. i recorded some clips to the memory stick (which incidentally are recognized and play flawlessly in the ps3) and then transferred the files to my pc. booted up vegas 8b pro and it doesn't even recognize the clips. what gives? i'm wondering if i'm missing a step here, but even so, why does vegas not even acknowledge that mts files even exist?

Did you regester the program via the internet. I have read that the AVCHD is activated once the registration is done ONLINE.

un-install your pro 8. And install the latest from the sony site and re enter your serial number. then just let the program register itself.
post #87 of 149
Paul

Did you set the AUDIO Project properties to 5.1 surround ? The default is stereo but if I set it to 5.1 the original material is not downsampled.

Sergio
post #88 of 149
Paul Fort: set the project settings to 5.1 and it will be read as 5.1 with no problem
post #89 of 149
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Originally Posted by Paul Fort View Post

Did you regester the program via the internet. I have read that the AVCHD is activated once the registration is done ONLINE.

un-install your pro 8. And install the latest from the sony site and re enter your serial number. then just let the program register itself.

i did register it. i'll try the uninstall and reinstall routine when i get home tonight. someone else suggested that i need to run the files through the Picture Motion Browser software (bundled with the cam) first before vegas will recognize the files. apparently this software joins the files and converts them to the .m2ts format, which vegas recognizes. i have not installed the pmb software yet to try this out.

failing that, i'm curious to know if anyone else has had trouble with vegas recognizing .mts files. i'll also ask these questions in the sr11/12 thread as it may be an issue related to these files? no idea
post #90 of 149
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Originally Posted by rldivide View Post

Paul Fort: set the project settings to 5.1 and it will be read as 5.1 with no problem

No I did not do this so I'll try later
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