Poll: Touch of Color Red, LNA650 - Page 2

I understand everyones thinking about why not black right out of the gate. Well, in some of the press releases and videos I've seen of Samsung reps discussing this TV they stated they didn't expect everyone to like the red color, but their answer to that was they will release other colors to satisfy those people. The reasoning behind releasing the red one before a black one is odd but also bold.

I think Samsung is trying to make it more than just a black rectangle that looks like all the others out there. They wanted this to be a piece of art, which again is subjective to the people buying them whether it's art or ugly.

Your right that black probably would have moved more units right off the bat, but I think once people get them in their home they realize the red is beautiful and doesn't make the TV ugly. I think it is ART and something to show off.

Mosh~~

My take on this is poll is that the ones that voted it doesn't bother me are owners. Those that voted I will not buy because it's red really don't like it or haven't really seen one in person. Those that say it's the inside that counts are your...for lack of a better term tech junkies. So with that I voted it' doesn't bother me

Yeah, it was that one guy at Samsung who has the red leather sofa in his living room-Lol.

I took delivery of my A650 yesterday and I think the TOC looks hawt.

It's a risky idea on Samsung's part--but it gives the sets a style and flair that (in addition to the awesome PQ) sets them apart.

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r237/Kolgar/A650.jpg

As you can see from the photo, the red bezel isn't "in your face" even with a direct flash on it. During normal viewing, you don't even see or notice it.

Yeah I can see your point. Honestly I'd probably would pick the black bezel but, I gotta say that the red does match my red velvet curtains as well as my red pillows on my black leather couch. So ehh...I guess for me the red works.

Heh, exactly. For those of us without red curtains...oh well, I guess? Just kind of wierd given it's they're only offering. I could see if this was like the iPod or something and right out of the gate it came in 5 colors for the customer to choose from (including something understated).

But instead, for the people who might buy and were already attracted to Samsungs lineup or the a550 but decide the new generation is worth a little time/money in order to take advantage of the new tech it's like "wait...wait...cool new features coming out...wait...2008, tada! Hope you like RED!" Huh? What did "red" have to do with 120Hz and 50:000:1, which is what I actually wanted? And now what if...I really don't like red? Buy a 550? Wait yet again? Hope they do some market reasearch and offer something else?

I dunno, maybe most people just don't feel strongly...but my "other TV" is a 106" projection screen set against a black, light-sucking void. I want the picture. Do not want to be noticing bezels and how hawt my speaker cabinets are or any of that. I want to get fully lost in the actual content of what I'm watching. For me, a TV is for watching what's on TV...the device is not an artwork (it's a big, factory-made plastic rectangle) that I want to lord over people in my living room. I'd rather it wasn't ugly, certainly...but I also don't want it calling attention to itself...and certainly not to it's bezel or other strcutural elements. I don't want my car's transaxle red or my refrigerator's exhaust vent red or the gutters and spouts on my house red.

But then, given that these things are expensive I suppose people may want a certain "prestige factor" for their newer purchases. I don't get that myself, but I know it sells plenty of stuff and people are entitled to have something they spend $$$ on be exciting and satisfying somehow.

All that said, this paint effect would be pretty flash on a track car or motorcycle or something.

What you are missing...and what companies miss when they do this type of survey...is "did you or will you buy it because it is red?". You see....at this point 30 people out of 125 or so have said that they would not buy the set because of the red color (I am one).....so by making the set red, they are losing some potential customers (10-15% in this survey) who will most likely buy some other set.

If the red frame gained them that many more new customers, it's a win....but to me, it looks like it's maybe interesting marketing...but from a financial standpoint, they have not maximized their revenue/profit (which is, after all, why they are in business).

I did not buy it because of the color red.

I have some cherry furniture that goes with this tv.

Great tv along with a slight touch of red!!!

I don't think this TOC affects that much with the furnitures
The key here is nobody can or barely see any red on bezel
It's not going to give much red reflections to the surround furnitures
Mike

I don't see how the red could clash with any decor. It's too subtle. If the whole frame was red that could be a problem but as is it's just a nice accent. I think some are making way too big a deal of this.

I understand what you are saying and I have been to the store countless times and change my mind everyday about the TOC. For me and my 3 G's (52") It would bother me too much knowing I didn't get exactly what I wanted, and that I had to "settle" because the red was the only choice. Not that noticeable yes, subtle yes, but I would still know... and I think that would eat at me. I want a TOB (Touch of Black) bezel and I guess I will wait until Sammy offers it.. Sammy are you listening???

Deal Breaker for me.

I agree.

And i'm glad they put the red TOC. I was getting tired of the same old black bezels. This is something new and unique. I just dont see why people are getting so upset over this, go buy another brand if it bothers you people so much. Why go on and on and on about it in these threads, its pointless.

Ya know after reading all the B.S. on this forum and then actually visiting and seeing this panel the first thing I thought was what a MUCH TO DO ABOUT NOTHING! Damn talk about nit picking crapola that proves much of the OCD on this forum.

Damn it was hard to see the damn red around the edges when I peered at the 650 up on the wall and I thought WTF are they talking about on this forum - you'd think the TV would've had patent leather red around the bezel when in reality it's a hint on the edge for god's sake. I don't give a hoot what design they'd put on the TV many on this forum would bitch about it no matter what it was. Bottom line when you view the friggin TV your eyes shouldn't be seeing the bezel at all.

I have a piano black Sharp which I love and it's never detracted from viewing and PQ while my 57" Sharp is Titanium and I don't really care for the Titanium at all but hell if I'd trade one day viewing the 57" versus the 45" previous gen model though I prefer the black beauty bezel it's the PQ and the SIZE that makes the bezel a non-issue just a preference that cannot go to far since there are so few competitors in the large size LCD's. The way some of griped on this forum you'd think they done the bezel like Michael Jacksons Thriller Red Leather and when I first saw the 650 I thought WTF are they talking about it's barely noticeable though I would prefer all black it's not nearly what it's suggested on this forum.

MUCH ADO ABOUT NOTHING!

99.99% of forums are "much ado about nothing." 99.99% of conversation is "much ado about nothing."
That said, you took the time to stop by and rant about the ranting. That too was "much ado about nothing."

Some people fear change.

When Apple came out with Aqua IMACs, the whoel world cried why? Then, the whole world copied them.

It's always safer to stay with what everyone else does. It's leading the way when you cut a new path.

Color is a major selling point to consumers. It's not shocking that electronics are picking up on it. Silver and black are not the end all be all.

You may not like TOC, but I have zero doubt sales will be hurt by it. Just the opposite, they may improve. My only issue, they could have made it bolder. In the store, I doubt many customers may even notice it.

Actually it does work, its very nice. Just because you hate it, doesnt mean it doesnt work. A lot of people love it. Why dont you just forget about it already and look at other tv's. Why go on and on and bash something you dont even own. There are other tv's out there you know, go buy one of them.

This thread should be closed, its pointless!
(but i still cant help coming in here and arguing lol)

I think the bezel of a TV should be considered differently than a frame for a piece of art. Pull the Picasso out of the frame and you're not likely to leave the empty frame on the wall. The TV while on or off is still a piece of functioning furniture. When I have people over, most times the TV is not on, leaving the set as part of the decor. It's a very striking piece and the red adds to it when the set is off and takes nothing away when it's on.

+1, love the TV, love the TOC. I just think they wanted us to have something different but not too over the top. Now if they made this TV candy apple red, then forget it. This deep red is perfect IMO. Looks black in low light, but brightens up in brighter light.

When the black ones come out someone is going to say i don't like the black ones, wheres my seafoam blue one to match the ocean outside of my house.

Don't buy it if you don't like it, pretty simple. the sad part is you will be missing out on a great TV PICTURE.

Mosh~~

I just bought a 650 and frankly the bezel was a POSITIVE factor. I liked that it looked different than most of the other stuff out there. The red was SO subtle I didn't even notice it until I read about it here, I just knew that it looked good compared to all the other ones.

Also a big factor was the size of the bezel. I have a constrained area and I wanted a high-end display no wider than 46"-inches. That meant I couldn't get an XBR4 because the put a bunch of usless clear plastic around the edge. I also couldn't fit the Samsung 81 series because randomly they decided to slap plastic onto the edges.

The 650 bezel is nice and minimal, but still more interesting than the flat gloss plastic black I had on my last Samsung plasma 42".

I hope they do more colors and risky stuff in the future. Useless plastic frames to make "floating" screens are so over.

Does anyone know which color they will be releasing next in their TOC lineup? I won't be buying this tv until my refund check comes (I know, I'm a moron and should be paying down credit card debt but where's the fun in that?) and I was wondering if a new color would be out by then? I LOVE the red but would be open to other options as well.

All my audio components, speakers and stands are black. So any other color contrasts with my nice black units but if the TV performs well I don't have a problem with it. Black is/should be the standard color. Perhaps some girl's idea in the marketing department ruined the look of the bezzel.
At least, is not PINK Mother Fsss.

LMAO

That is the current and only color
Red, amber, whatever you want to call it, I don't like it, but I sooo want this TV, just with a TOB (Touch of Black!)

I emailed Samsung about it:
This was their reply:

Dear
Thank you for contacting Samsung,


Thank you for your interest in future models.

After extensive research, we have determined that there is no current information available, which references release dates for the model with the feature you have requested.

For updated product release information please go here and search product news for the latest press releases regarding new products, models, and features.

Thank you for your continued interest. (notice how I changed the color to red/amber. )

I would not buy a red tv, regardless of how good its PQ was. It made the decision between a 6 series or 5 series very simple, because i didn't consider even for a second a red tv.

I've seen it in real life. It's subtle, but it's still red. Red is not a neutral color. It will likely clash with other things in your setup. Notice how 99% of electronics are black, silver, or white? Notice how nearly every video game console is black or white (with OPTIONAL colors available later on)? You can bet that if the Playstation 3 had a red "touch of color", that it would probably sell much, much less than it is now.

Obviously Samsung took a risk, as someone earlier pointed out - alienate some vs alienate nobody. They chose to alienate some...was it a smart decision? Only they know, I guess. I'm going to guess that next year's line will be back to black only with TOC as an optional sku.

I dunno, I just feel that TOS (Touch of Silver) would probably be the way to go, since that's how LCD TVs have been like for years. After all, most LCDs you'd think about are silver trim with a black bezel, or the earlier models at the very least.

Also, there's TVs that use almost all glossy black cabinets, but some parts are accented with silver, like Sharp Aquos, where you have a speaker lip accented in silver, and the logo, and the rest is all black. Or like Sony this year, they have silver along the bottom, as a strip along the speaker bar, and the rest is all black. It's a trend that I wish that Samsung should've went with instead of that burgundy. Call me "old school, " but why change a decor accent that more people have appreciated just to make it something that the masses will only complain about in the long haul?