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post #1 of 34
Thread Starter 
Hi all.

Just got my LG BH-200 (only 400 bucks!)
updated firmware to 3-14 version (worked fine)
set it to region free (worked fine)

and now i have a few questions for you people that have more experience with the unit.

1. I'm thinking of getting a new receiver that can take advantage of the HD audio it decodes. Whats a good receiver that you would recommend hooking up to the BH200? I'm trying not to spend much more than 500 bucks. I hear Onkyo is pretty good for the money.

2. I noticed that aside from playing video files, the usb port can be used as memory for when you play Blu-Ray movies. Does this only benefit 1.1 and 2.0 discs? Does it make any difference with 1.0 discs at all?

3. Thinking of hooking up a router to the back of it too. Can anyone verify which routers work with it?
post #2 of 34
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Originally Posted by pixelcide View Post

Hi all.

Just got my LG BH-200 (only 400 bucks!)
updated firmware to 3-14 version (worked fine)
set it to region free (worked fine)

and now i have a few questions for you people that have more experience with the unit.

1. I'm thinking of getting a new receiver that can take advantage of the HD audio it decodes. Whats a good receiver that you would recommend hooking up to the BH200? I'm trying not to spend much more than 500 bucks. I hear Onkyo is pretty good for the money.

2. I noticed that aside from playing video files, the usb port can be used as memory for when you play Blu-Ray movies. Does this only benefit 1.1 and 2.0 discs? Does it make any difference with 1.0 discs at all?

3. Thinking of hooking up a router to the back of it too. Can anyone verify which routers work with it?

1) The Onkyo 605 should be a good choice but make sure the firmware is updated for the DTS "Bomb" issue.

2) I think it is only of use for 1.1, 2.0 or HDDVD discs. 1.0 Discs have no requirement for persistent storage AFAIK.

3) Not fussy, any 100Mb/1Gb router should be fine.
post #3 of 34
BD Profile 1.0 discs won't need the extra memory, there is nothing they do that can take advantage of it. Profile 1.0 is like SD DVD in that respect.
post #4 of 34
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Originally Posted by bradavon View Post

BD Profile 1.0 discs won't need the extra memory, there is nothing they do that can take advantage of it. Profile 1.0 is like SD DVD in that respect.

Semi-related...

Exploring the BH200 menus, I noticed that they've implemented the abillity to off-load HD-DVD downloaded content to a USB flash drive (in case your persistent storage is getting full). Very nice. Toshiba hadn't even enabled that for their HD-DVD players yet.
post #5 of 34
The Onkyo 605 is the best deal for the money and works great. You may need to update the firmware to avoid the "bitstream bomb" but it is a fairly easy process.
post #6 of 34
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Originally Posted by DM2006RI View Post

The Onkyo 605 is the best deal for the money and works great. You may need to update the firmware to avoid the "bitstream bomb" but it is a fairly easy process.

Hi,

A lot of people recommend the Onkyo 605, and it's a great deal (for example, it's $329 through Amazon.com).

That being said, I have an Onkyo 705 on it's way. It improves on the 605 in almost every way, and is currently $533 at Amazon.com (with free shipping).

The 605 will definitely get the job done though, so it all boils down to whether the extra features appeal to you (if you're going to go with 5.1 rather than 7.1 the 705 may not be worth it.)
post #7 of 34
Thread Starter 
thanks for all the replies guys. You've really helped me out.

One last question.

What video formats does the bh200 play though the usb drive? I see that it does mp3, wma, and jpegs, but if i put an .mpg file on my usb drive, it doesn't recognize it. Am i correct in assuming that it can't play video from a usb drive?

Tried burning one onto a blank DVD+R and got the same result. I'm guessing it only plays a DVD+R or -R if its an exact copy of another SD DVD.
post #8 of 34
I would bet there is no way MPEG (of any type: DivX/Xvid/MPEG1/MPEG2/MPEG4), WMV or any other video format will work. It will be MP3, WMA or JPG only. They always tend to advertise this if it's possible.

It's very rare for Players/Recorders to playback Computer video formats, except for DivX/Xvid obviously. It's usually via disc not USB Stick too.

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Originally Posted by pixelcide View Post

I'm guessing it only plays a DVD+R or -R if its an exact copy of another SD DVD.

Correct. DVD is MPEG2 but that's where the similarity ends. A DVD has to meet a strict format to be a DVD.

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Originally Posted by stpat View Post

Exploring the BH200 menus, I noticed that they've implemented the abillity to off-load HD-DVD downloaded content to a USB flash drive.

That is cool. Which firmware was that brought in with?

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Originally Posted by stpat View Post

That being said, I have an Onkyo 705 on it's way. It improves on the 605 in almost every way

How is it better? Thanks.

The 605 already bitstreams all the relevant formats. I understand the 605 only has two HDMI in but the 705 has four. I only personally need two, can't see that ever changing and I can always use a switch box if I need to.
post #9 of 34
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Originally Posted by stpat View Post

A lot of people recommend the Onkyo 605, and it's a great deal (for example, it's $329 through Amazon.com).

That being said, I have an Onkyo 705 on it's way. It improves on the 605 in almost every way, and is currently $533 at Amazon.com (with free shipping).

The 605 will definitely get the job done though, so it all boils down to whether the extra features appeal to you (if you're going to go with 5.1 rather than 7.1 the 705 may not be worth it.)

I agree. After considering both a new Denon and a new Onkyo receiver, both of which would support TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio, I decided to go with the 705. I did a lot of research and in the end felt the 705 just offered a lot more than the 605 with only a minimal premium in price.

First off, you're going to get cleaner, more powerful sound from the 705 thanks to its 100 watts per channel vs. the 605's 90 watts. The 705 is THX Select2 certified and is perhaps the most affordable THX approved receiver on the market. The 705 also features Audyssey's MultEQ XT auto calibration compared to the 605's Audyssey's 2EQ. The MultEQ XT is normally only found on higher end, much more expensive units like Denon's $1200 and up receivers. Trust me, when used correctly, the auto calibration done via the MultEQ XT vs. the 2EQ can be awe inspiring. The technology is pretty amazing. The 705 also adds one more HDMI input bringing its total to 3. You may not need it now, but it's always better to have more than you need just in case. Finally, the 705 was developed and went into production after the 605 and 805 so even though Onkyo hasn't confirmed this (for obvious reasons) all real world reports suggest the 705's platform is a little more robust, less prone to operating at high heat levels, and hasn't had any of the "quirks" reported in the 605 or 805 series.

All in all, there's nothing wrong with the 605 and you'd probably be happy with it. But, if you can swing it, I'd say go for the 705. As someone who's very picky about audio, I've always sworn by Denon. But, I think Onkyo has really batted it out of the park with the 705 and when you factor in its price, to me it's a clear winner.

-C.

P.S.
And since this is a thread about a receiver to use with your LG BH200, I can tell you that so far, my BH200 and 705 have played perfectly together!
post #10 of 34
re: off-load HD-DVD downloaded content to a USB flash drive.
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Originally Posted by bradavon View Post

That is cool. Which firmware was that brought in with?

Pretty sure that was in the original firmware, though I could be wrong on that. The capability is there for both HD DVD and BD. The BD side of things is why the BH200 appears to have all the hardware necessary for Profile 2.0.
post #11 of 34
Thanks Oilblue and Casey.

I never pay much attention to THX. I still remember the original R1 Highlander DVD with THX logo on the cover. The quality was atrocious!

When I plan to buy one I'll look into both, properly.
post #12 of 34
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Originally Posted by oilblue View Post

re: off-load HD-DVD downloaded content to a USB flash drive.

Pretty sure that was in the original firmware, though I could be wrong on that. The capability is there for both HD DVD and BD. The BD side of things is why the BH200 appears to have all the hardware necessary for Profile 2.0.

I'm not sure either, but it's fully documented in the user manual, which means it wasn't just introduced by the latest firmware...
post #13 of 34
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Originally Posted by casey.christian View Post

I agree. After considering both a new Denon and a new Onkyo receiver, both of which would support TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio, I decided to go with the 705. I did a lot of research and in the end felt the 705 just offered a lot more than the 605 with only a minimal premium in price.

First off, you're going to get cleaner, more powerful sound from the 705 thanks to its 100 watts per channel vs. the 605's 90 watts. The 705 is THX Select2 certified and is perhaps the most affordable THX approved receiver on the market. The 705 also features Audyssey's MultEQ XT auto calibration compared to the 605's Audyssey's 2EQ. The MultEQ XT is normally only found on higher end, much more expensive units like Denon's $1200 and up receivers. Trust me, when used correctly, the auto calibration done via the MultEQ XT vs. the 2EQ can be awe inspiring. The technology is pretty amazing. The 705 also adds one more HDMI input bringing its total to 3. You may not need it now, but it's always better to have more than you need just in case. Finally, the 705 was developed and went into production after the 605 and 805 so even though Onkyo hasn't confirmed this (for obvious reasons) all real world reports suggest the 705's platform is a little more robust, less prone to operating at high heat levels, and hasn't had any of the "quirks" reported in the 605 or 805 series.

All in all, there's nothing wrong with the 605 and you'd probably be happy with it. But, if you can swing it, I'd say go for the 705. As someone who's very picky about audio, I've always sworn by Denon. But, I think Onkyo has really batted it out of the park with the 705 and when you factor in its price, to me it's a clear winner.

-C.

P.S.
And since this is a thread about a receiver to use with your LG BH200, I can tell you that so far, my BH200 and 705 have played perfectly together!


Nice summary. I was going to list reasons in my original post, but was short on time. You nailed it perfectly.

Question about them "playing perfectly". Does this mean no video dropouts? I don't have my 705 yet, but it'd be great if it resolved the dropouts (currently I'm going from my BH200 to my Sony TV, and I get dropouts).
post #14 of 34
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Originally Posted by stpat View Post

Question about them "playing perfectly". Does this mean no video dropouts? I don't have my 705 yet, but it'd be great if it resolved the dropouts (currently I'm going from my BH200 to my Sony TV, and I get dropouts).

Well, actually what I meant by "playing perfectly" was more about the BH200 and the 705 communicating via HDMI and handling all the HD audio stuff perfectly. But ... since you asked, so far I haven't had any video dropouts. Granted, in the last couple of weeks since I got my BH200, I haven't had time to watch a whole lot of stuff, but here's what I've found so far:

1. Across the Universe (Blu-ray) - video good, TrueHD bitstreamed
2. Transformers (HD DVD) - video good, DD+ bitstreamed
3. Planet Earth (HD DVD) - few video "freezes," can't get them to repeat in the same place, DD bitstreamed
4. No Country for Old Men (Blu-ray) - video good, PCM bitstreamed
5. Superman Returns (HD DVD) - video good, TrueHD bitstreamed
6. Pan's Labyrinth (HD DVD) - video good, DTS-HD MA bitstreamed
7. Fight Club (SD DVD) - video good (excellent upscaling), DD bitsteamed

So, while this is far from a totally inclusive list, all in all I haven't had too many issues. Other than the freezes on the Planet Earth HD DVD, the only other video anomalies I've had are, ironically, when I have the BH200 user/setup menus open. It seems like the HDMI loses its connection; the screen will blink black for a second or two, than everything's back to normal.

But, when all is said and done, I still am enjoying my BH200 and 705 quite a bit and don't regret either purchase!

-C.
post #15 of 34
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Originally Posted by casey.christian View Post

I agree. After considering both a new Denon and a new Onkyo receiver, both of which would support TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio, I decided to go with the 705. I did a lot of research and in the end felt the 705 just offered a lot more than the 605 with only a minimal premium in price.

First off, you're going to get cleaner, more powerful sound from the 705 thanks to its 100 watts per channel vs. the 605's 90 watts. The 705 is THX Select2 certified and is perhaps the most affordable THX approved receiver on the market. The 705 also features Audyssey's MultEQ XT auto calibration compared to the 605's Audyssey's 2EQ. The MultEQ XT is normally only found on higher end, much more expensive units like Denon's $1200 and up receivers. Trust me, when used correctly, the auto calibration done via the MultEQ XT vs. the 2EQ can be awe inspiring. The technology is pretty amazing. The 705 also adds one more HDMI input bringing its total to 3. You may not need it now, but it's always better to have more than you need just in case. Finally, the 705 was developed and went into production after the 605 and 805 so even though Onkyo hasn't confirmed this (for obvious reasons) all real world reports suggest the 705's platform is a little more robust, less prone to operating at high heat levels, and hasn't had any of the "quirks" reported in the 605 or 805 series.

All in all, there's nothing wrong with the 605 and you'd probably be happy with it. But, if you can swing it, I'd say go for the 705. As someone who's very picky about audio, I've always sworn by Denon. But, I think Onkyo has really batted it out of the park with the 705 and when you factor in its price, to me it's a clear winner.

-C.

P.S.
And since this is a thread about a receiver to use with your LG BH200, I can tell you that so far, my BH200 and 705 have played perfectly together!

Thanks great summary and I pulled the trigger and bought the 705. Could not be happier. Now I have to find the time to run the Audyssey's MultEQ XT auto calibration. Thanks for all the tips!!!!!
post #16 of 34
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Originally Posted by Caanda45 View Post

Thanks great summary and I pulled the trigger and bought the 705. Could not be happier. Now I have to find the time to run the Audyssey's MultEQ XT auto calibration. Thanks for all the tips!!!!!

Hey - glad to hear you decided on the 705. I hope you find it as easy and enjoyable to use as I have. I actually just ran the Audyssey setup again this weekend as I had moved some furniture around and finally got my speakers settled in their final home. I'd suggest using at least five "test spots" where you put the microphone to get the best results. Shouldn't take too long; I metered from six spots and was done in about 15 minutes.

Again, congrats on the purchase and please let us know how it works out for you!

-C.
post #17 of 34
Update, fantastic little piece of electronics. Love it and keeping it.
post #18 of 34
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Originally Posted by pixelcide View Post

Hi all.

Just got my LG BH-200 (only 400 bucks!)
updated firmware to 3-14 version (worked fine)
set it to region free (worked fine)

and now i have a few questions for you people that have more experience with the unit.

1. I'm thinking of getting a new receiver that can take advantage of the HD audio it decodes. Whats a good receiver that you would recommend hooking up to the BH200? I'm trying not to spend much more than 500 bucks. I hear Onkyo is pretty good for the money.

2. I noticed that aside from playing video files, the usb port can be used as memory for when you play Blu-Ray movies. Does this only benefit 1.1 and 2.0 discs? Does it make any difference with 1.0 discs at all?

3. Thinking of hooking up a router to the back of it too. Can anyone verify which routers work with it?

$400 huh? Where?!
post #19 of 34
I just bought mine from Crutchfield, which had the cheapest price I saw among any major retailers ($529 I think). I glanced on ebay afterwards and it looks like you could probably grab a new one for around $450 there, but I didn't feel like hassling with that this time around. After all, I made $150 in profit when I sold my month-old BD-UP5000 back in January.
post #20 of 34
Got mine off eBay, $450 shipped. Could have fought it out to try and save $30-$50, but got it fast from a good seller - a PS/3 is $400, for $50 more I got a player with a real remote control and that plays my HD DVD collection (about 100 at this point).

Love it...so far.
post #21 of 34
$450

You guys are so lucky. The BH200 has been released in the UK, just (good luck if you can actually find it). Check out the price:



£699.99 is $1,386 USD

Obviously that's a joke and NO one in the UK is likely to pay that. I'd imagine they don't intend to sell many so are hopefully they'll sell a handful at that price.

It's so hard to get hold of it's not even on their website. The advert is also full of the usual clueless inaccurate information too. The BH200 cannot internally decode DTS-HD, didn't support DTS-HD at all last month officially when the catalogue was released (according to the UK LG Service Firmware page it still doesn't) and last month TrueHD was only official 2 Channel .

Frankly I don't care as I always planned to import one anyway. Even with Postage and Customs charges on top it will still cost me much less to import it.

p.s - How much did the BH200 cost when it first came out in Canada and The USA? Thanks
post #22 of 34
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Originally Posted by bradavon View Post

p.s - How much did the BH200 cost when it first came out in Canada and The USA? Thanks

If I recall, it was $999 for a little while and then was dropped to $799 around when the Samsung BD-UP5000 came out (at $799).
post #23 of 34
fst96se: I'd guess that pixelcide picked it up for $400 in Canada somewhere. MRSP of the unit is now $500 (at least that's what two chains are listing as the regular price). They've each had sales on the units in the last 8 weeks bringing the price even lower.

bradavon: "Original MSRP"...I don't know. For one, LG Canada doesn't list the BH200 (or the BH100) on their website as product. Also, I didn't really look at the time it was released as dual-format was clearly out of our price range. Pretty sure it was out there at $900 to $1000. Something like that. I think sometime in February sales brought it to $700 or $800. Things changed again when Toshiba dropped out of the picture, and the non-sale Canadian price is now $500.

For pretty much every other home theatre component Canadians pay more than Americans (particularly on AV receivers), so the BH200 pricing is a nice situation for once.

BTW, I think LG Canada is quite different from LG in the US. More so than most CE companies anyway. For example, LG laptops are sold in Canada (and elsewhere), but not in the US. Usually the difference only amounts to different models if anything, not a whole product line.
post #24 of 34
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Originally Posted by bradavon View Post

$450

You guys are so lucky. The BH200 has been released in the UK, just (good luck if you can actually find it). Check out the price:

£699.99 is $1,386 USD


Hey, don't forget you get 1/3 off an HDMI lead for that price
post #25 of 34
Sorry Peterjcat. I don't understand?

Thanks Oilblue and tostitobandito.

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For one, LG Canada doesn't list the BH200 (or the BH100) on their website as product.

Oh yeah. How weird. I see the LG BH100 is listed on the Canadian site (but under the bizarre model number: SMB-007) but the BH200 isn't listed and there isn't even a Blu-ray/HD Player section on the USA site.

The BH100 isn't listed on the UK site (despite being released yonks/ages ago) but the BH200 is.

EDIT: The SMB-007 seems to be a Canadian version of the BH100. Any idea why they gave it a different model number?
post #26 of 34
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Originally Posted by bradavon View Post

Sorry Peterjcat. I don't understand?

Read the ad, in the fine print it presents the very generous offer of 1/3 off an HDMI cable if you buy a BH200 for the princely sum of 700 squid.
post #27 of 34
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Originally Posted by pixelcide View Post

Hi all.


1. I'm thinking of getting a new receiver that can take advantage of the HD audio it decodes. Whats a good receiver that you would recommend hooking up to the BH200? I'm trying not to spend much more than 500 bucks. I hear Onkyo is pretty good for the money.
(snip)
3. Thinking of hooking up a router to the back of it too. Can anyone verify which routers work with it?

The Onkyo TX-SR605 ain't bad. However, if you're buying new and willing to spend $500, you should wait a few months until the Onkyo TX-SR606 comes out. The Onkyo TX-SR605 has two HDMI inputs. The Onkyo TX-SR606 has FOUR!

http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9924691-7.html

Any router should work. I haven't purchased my BH200, yet. However, I'm sure it will work going into my AT&T router/switch/DSL gateway/bridge, etc. via powerline.
post #28 of 34
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Originally Posted by peterjcat View Post

Read the ad, in the fine print it presents the very generous offer of 1/3 off an HDMI cable if you buy a BH200 for the princely sum of 700 squid.

Oh yeah

A £3.33 saving, they're so kind

You cannot even buy a pint of beer for that in some places in London, not that I live there.

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Originally Posted by allargon View Post

The Onkyo TX-SR605 ain't bad. However, if you're buying new and willing to spend $500, you should wait a few months until the Onkyo TX-SR606 comes out. The Onkyo TX-SR605 has two HDMI inputs. The Onkyo TX-SR606 has FOUR!

How will it compare with the 705? Thanks.
post #29 of 34
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Originally Posted by bradavon View Post

...but the BH200 isn't listed and there isn't even a Blu-ray/HD Player section on the USA site.

It is listed under Digital Video section. MSRP : $849.95

http://us.lge.com/products/model/det...o__BH200.jhtml

Here is the link to the microsite : http://us.lge.com/superblue
post #30 of 34
Thanks.
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