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Well the 2008 series is here from LG, and it seems to me like they're really coming out swinging.



The cabinet sports a piano black clean look. The button switched from a power button along the side of the cabinet to being at the front of the television. It's a tab-styled power button with a red(off) and blue(on) LED.

Specifications:
Resolution: 720p 1366x768
Contrast Ratio: 12,000:1
Brightness: 500 cd/m
Digital Convergence
3 HDMI inputs
2 Component Inputs
PC Input (RGB)
Digital TOSLink Optical Out
Dolby Digital
Energy Star Compliant
5ms Response Time
VESA 200m x 100m compatible (32")
VESA 200m x 200m compatible (37" / 42")

Special Features:
Backlight Control
Four color temperatures
Enhanced Line Doubler
Video Noise Reduction

Measurements:
Height : 23 4/5" With Stand, 21 2/5" Without Stand
Width: 31 3/5"
Depth: 3 1/10"
Weight: 29.4 lbs With Stand, 26.1 lbs Without Stand

I bolded the features I consider to stand out over other features, such as the 3 hdmi inputs, the contrast ratio, the brightness and the response time.

These are my custom settings. I'm not that good of a calibrator, but for medium-high lighting, these settings are rather impressive:
Backlight: 57
Contrast: 70
Brightness: 52
Sharpness: 21
Color: 62

My thoughts/impressions: I'm definitely happy I took the Toshiba 32AV500U back to get this model. I know at retail price it's a $220 price difference, but I'm a BB employee. I can't share my price, but I'll say it was a worthwhile upgrade. The ironic thing is that the Dynex 32" I had before the Toshiba had BETTER picture quality than the Toshiba LCD. I wouldn't recommend the Toshiba to anyone. It's almost as bad as the Westinghouse 1080p we have. The Westinghouse 32" and most other Westinghouse TV's look really good, but the Toshiba 32AV500U and the Westinghouse 1080p 42" are becoming recognized at our store for having incredibly terrible picture quality, even with slight calibration.

Compared to the Samsung A330 and Samsung A450, the LG has a higher contrast ratio, a faster response time, higher brightness. Some people swear by Samsungs, but I'm only impressed with their 1080p panels.

Teaser Shots: >>> This is on a REALLY crappy camera. I'm talking... 3.0 megapixels, Samsung from like 2002. Only two shots came out to my standards.

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post #2 of 195
Nice report, I started taking LG seriously after seeing different displays in London the LGs' looked sharper than anything else, a lot of people seem to pay a premium on other brands that have a host of problems.
post #3 of 195
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Originally Posted by NamelessMC View Post

Well the 2008 series is here from LG, and it seems to me like they're really coming out swinging.

Thanks for starting this thread. I just saw the 37LG30 demonstrated at a store a couple of days ago and REALLY liked everything about it. I had made up my mind to purchase it, but then read this review about it in the Samsung 450 forum:

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"Just got the 37LNA450 last night. BB with 10% printable coupon. In two weeks I've had:

1) 32AV500 (toshiba), pretty good really, especially for the price, but it had software issues and wouldn't let me block out digital music channels so I returned it.

2) 37LG30 - It was TERRIBLE. Even the HD channels weren't great and SD was frequently badly pixelated. My wife is nearly blind and she noticed it. Returned it. This TV also had software issues and wouldn't let me just flip to all channels; I'd have to punch the number in.

3) Got the 450 last night. MUCH better than the LG. I got it over the same priced Toshiba 42RV530 (1080p) because of Samsung's reputation as being better and side by side it was quite apparent that the Toshiba blacks were quite purple at times.

No issues with the 450 yet. I only have digital SD cable that gets a few HD channels, so it's just a bit fuzzy at times. But so far I like it and think I'll keep it."

Can you shed any light on the problems listed? -- not only the PQ, but particularly the issue of not being able to flip through the channels?? I know that proper calibration can make a huge difference in PQ, but that wouldn't solve the channel problems. I'm very interested in that model if it turns out that the problems listed above were due to a faulty set. Thanks for any feedback you may provide...
post #4 of 195
Thread Starter 
I haven't had any trouble flipping through channels. It picked up all my cable and digital channels from the auto program. I can't speak for his issues, I know how frustrated one can be when one has issues with a product and people point finger at you and say, "USER ERROR!" But his issues were definitely isolated.

We've sold roughly 15 LG30's from all different sizes and we haven't had any come back. We've had a couple 450's and 330's come back. (Even a couple 550's and 650's, but that belongs to the 1080p set discussions) Of course that's not to bash Samsung, but really we have had fewer LG's come back versus any other television. Westinghouse tops the return list.

Almost all the customers I deal with are exclusively cable TV/Satellite watchers, so I'd imagine if the set had widespread issues with the tuner, we'd have been one of the first stores to know.

As for display pictures. I plan on using my sister's SLR camera this weekend to take some Bluray shots. Of the titles I'll be displaying:
Fifth Element - Obligatory Leelo face shot, plus a few other shots I feel show the sharpness, PQ and contrast.
Casino Royale - One of the best Blurays to date, shows how this screen can compete with the 1080p panels at 720p.
3:10 to Yuma - Just because it has Christian Bale and he's so dreamy.

I'll take some PS3 shots, of Heavenly Sword and Uncharted, mostly because Nariko melts my heart (Her CGI luscious body calls for it).

The thing about the LG30 versus the 450 though - At employee price, the LG30 is VERY neck and neck with the A330. But at MSRP, they're totally different classes of televisions. $150 price difference. The LG30 in terms of PQ should compete with the A450. It's hard for me to make that comparison being an owner of the LG30 but never personally calibrating and experiencing a 450 on a home use.
post #5 of 195
Thanks, NamelessMC.
I'm going to wait till they go on sale (supposedly within a month), then I'll get the 37LG30. The store's return policy is 30 days, which is enough time to evaluate the set. My main concern - as with most people - is motion-blur, that's why I'm going for a smaller (37") screen which tends to minimize that. I'm not willing to spend big bucks on a LCD until that issue is resolved.
post #6 of 195
just got it yesterday , very pleased after calibration ... the stand is to wobbily , but the picture is VERY GOOD!!... i returned a bravada 32 in sony and ive had the sxrd 52 in ... im still in a lawsut with sony on the green glob crap.. so far the lg makes me want to eat popcorn and watch movies ..
post #7 of 195
o yea .. no motion blur on mine either...
post #8 of 195
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Originally Posted by NamelessMC View Post

Well the 2008 series is here from LG, and it seems to me like they're really coming out swinging.

Does anyone have any opinions on the LG 32LC52 ? I can't find any reviews, but it has the feature set I need and a reasonable price, so I'm seriously considering it.
post #9 of 195
Does anyone know if the Sharpness is needed to be set? A friend of mine says sharpness setting should be set to 0 on LCD displays.
post #10 of 195
I just bought one this weekend and LOVE IT. I use a antenna to get HD signals and they look amazing. But I have no idea how to properly calibrate this. I'll post a few pics, but does anyone know if you need to make individual gain changes because I have all mine set to 0.

I bought this with no research and am happy to say it's a very nice TV.
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post #11 of 195
Does anyone have calibration settings for these sets?
post #12 of 195
Just picked one up today. Well, technically I purchased it today but it wouldn't fit in my Miata so I will go back tomorrow with the wife's car to get it. I bought it for many of the reasons the OP stated. I was shopping the budget line ups of the major brands and found this one to be the closest to what I wanted (on a budget there are always compromises). I have no idea how the sets were calibrated in the store, but at least the salesman had a clue and I think I got a veeeery fair price. Probably not worlds best ever, but fair. To keep the wife happy I also got a 3 year extended warranty. After having to replace the light engine in our Samsung DLP, it pretty much became a standard negotiating tool to say I would purchase an extended warranty. I have a DSLR and will post picks once it is mounted and calibrated with the AVIA DVD. Any tips on shooting an LCD for best results? Dark room, tripod, etc?
post #13 of 195
Well, I have the TV all set up and mounted now. Still haven't truly calibrated it yet, but I am very pleased with the overall image. I have it hooked up to an upconverting DVD player, a HTPC through VGA at 1024 x 768, and a OTA Antenna for Digital image reception. With the OTA HD feed, the image is really remarkable. I am not a "videophile" in the true sense of the word, but do enjoy my electronics and have a higher end 52" Samsung DLP as my main tv. I watched most of a Braves game in HD the other night and didn't notice any obvious motion blur. No ghosting, dead pixels, flashlight effects, blobs, banding, etc. As this is the "entry" line for LG, I think its remarkable bang for the buck!
post #14 of 195
My in-laws just got this model LCD and are having a heck of a time finding the proper code in order to operate the unit using their new Direct TV remote. Sorry, don't know the model of the Direct TV box, but the darn thing doesn't list a single LG tv in their remote learning software. Any codes for a 42LG30 would be appreciated. TIA
post #15 of 195
I just purchased a 42LG30 and about 5 mins after it was on I was watching the Baseball game (BlueJays) and I noticed that their white uniforms had a Pink hue to them, it was very noticeable. This was in 1080i HD. I changed cables and there was no difference.

Has anyone heard of something like this before? Seems like other whites on other channels didnt have such a bad pink hue but I can notice it.

Should I return the unit?

Thanks
post #16 of 195
Change your picture settings to Expert 1 before calibrating to the following...

Backlight - 60
Contrast - 95
Brightness - 38
Sharpness - 35
Color - 48
Tint - 0
Fresh Contrast - Low
Noise Reduction - Low
Gamma - High
Black Level - High
Real Cinema - On
Color Standard - HD
White Balance - Medium
Red Color - Neg 6
Red Tint - Neg 2
Magenta Tint - Neg 2

Hope this helps
post #17 of 195
Has anyone in here experienced the audio humming/buzzing issue with the 42LG30? I just bought one 2 days ago and it's got this annoying hum. It decreases the higher the backlight setting is, but it never completely goes away.

I'm taking it back, but just trying to determine if this is a wide-spread issue before I decide whether to get a refund or exchange.

Other than that, this set is great. The PQ is phenomenal. I just wish it didn't hum
post #18 of 195
I bought both the 32LG30 as well as it's larger brother, the 37LG50. Both of these sets allow a very large range of adjustments to the picture. Here is what one ISF-certified specialist have as the best settings for the 42-inch set...
Below you'll find the settings we found best for viewing the LG 32LG30 in a completely dark room via the HDMI input with a 720p, film-based source. Your settings may very depending on source, room conditions, and personal preference.

--Picture menu
Aspect Ratio: Just Scan
Picture Mode: Expert 1
Backlight: 30
Contrast: 94
Brightness: 54
Sharpness: 45
Color: 52
Tint: 0

--Expert control menu
Fresh contrast: Off
Noise reduction: Off
Gamma: Medium
Black level: Low
Real Cinema: On
TruMotion: Off
Color Standard: [grayed out]
White balance: Warm
Method: 10 point IRE

-- 10 point IRE calibration
IRE: [Red, Green, Blue results, respectively, for each IRE point]
100 [50, 40, -50]
90 [1, 33, -50]
80 [9, 32, -50]
70 [-3, 6, -48]
60 [-1, 4, -34]
50 [-4, -4, -38]
40 [-5, 0, -26]
30 [5, 9, -13]
20 [4, 9, -6]
10 [0, 9, -6]

--2 point IRE calibration [the 10-point method worked better for us, but we'll also include our 2 point calibration for the sake of completeness]
Red contrast: 1
Green contrast: 13
Blue contrast: -26
Red brightness: 0
Green brightness: 9
Blue brightness: -2
Color management system
Red color: 0
Red tint: 4
Green color: 0
Green tint: -15
Blue color: 0
Blue tint: 5
Yellow color: 0
Yellow tint: 1
Cyan color: 0
Cyan tint: 0
Magenta color: 0
Magenta tint: -1

Here is the link to that actual website posted on 5/20/2008...
http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-t...ag=tip-2510875

Here is that same sites review of the 37LG50...
http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-t...tag=prod.txt.1
post #19 of 195
I just purchased the 32LG30 for a bedrooom tv. I don't want to use a digital cable box (more of a clutter thing), but I would like to receive my standard cable along with picking up over-the-air HD. However, there is only one coax jack on the TV for cable/antenna input. Does anyone know how you can use an antenna and receive standard cable at the same time, given the one input?
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Originally Posted by soonerben View Post

I just purchased the 32LG30 for a bedrooom tv. I don't want to use a digital cable box (more of a clutter thing), but I would like to receive my standard cable along with picking up over-the-air HD. However, there is only one coax jack on the TV for cable/antenna input. Does anyone know how you can use an antenna and receive standard cable at the same time, given the one input?

I've been using one of the 2300Hz "splitter/combiners" to connect both the HD antenna and the Cable. Some of the channels in the 66 to 71 range are fuzzy. I am certian there is a good way to do it but I don't know how my self.
post #21 of 195
Have anyone tried the VGA input? Can it resolve every pixel? a cnet review said that DVI->HDMI is great but the VGA analog input has some problems. Unfortunately I can't try it out without purchasing it. Thanks.
post #22 of 195
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Originally Posted by starhusker View Post

Have anyone tried the VGA input? Can it resolve every pixel? a cnet review said that DVI->HDMI is great but the VGA analog input has some problems. Unfortunately I can't try it out without purchasing it. Thanks.

The VGA input worked PERFECTLY for me. However, since this is only a 1366x768 panel, that is also the HIGHEST resolution you can display on that screen. But, having said that my PC had no problem sending that signal to the set and the set had no problem displaying it PERFECTLY.
post #23 of 195
I'm using the VGA input coming out of a mac computer via DVI adapter, and have wavy horizontal lines moving from top to bottom of the screen. Cable run is about 30 feet.
post #24 of 195
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Originally Posted by ndabunka View Post

The VGA input worked PERFECTLY for me. However, since this is only a 1366x768 panel, that is also the HIGHEST resolution you can display on that screen. But, having said that my PC had no problem sending that signal to the set and the set had no problem displaying it PERFECTLY.

I went to Circuit City today and tried 42LG30 VGA input with my laptop. 1360x768 was all blur but 1024x768 was much better. Tried another Samsung 450 series and it was great. Do you know what could be the problem? Thanks.
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I'm using the VGA input coming out of a mac computer via DVI adapter, and have wavy horizontal lines moving from top to bottom of the screen. Cable run is about 30 feet.

Your problem is the length/quality of the cable...period.
post #26 of 195
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Originally Posted by starhusker View Post

I went to Circuit City today and tried 42LG30 VGA input with my laptop. 1360x768 was all blur but 1024x768 was much better. Tried another Samsung 450 series and it was great. Do you know what could be the problem? Thanks.

Sounds like a problem with that one set. Did you turn it off and then back on? Did you try alternate settings (like the 1024x768). Did you have the same "blurred" resolution at the other levels? You can also try 1280x768 and a number of alteratives in those areas.
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Originally Posted by ndabunka View Post

Sounds like a problem with that one set. Did you turn it off and then back on? Did you try alternate settings (like the 1024x768). Did you have the same "blurred" resolution at the other levels? You can also try 1280x768 and a number of alteratives in those areas.

I finally found out why: I have to go to the menu and change the resolution to 1360x768 too -- It won't auto detect the resolution like other sets do. After that everything is great!
post #28 of 195
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Originally Posted by starhusker View Post

I finally found out why: I have to go to the menu and change the resolution to 1360x768 too -- It won't auto detect the resolution like other sets do. After that everything is great!

Huh? Are you talking about the menu on the PC? If so, than you would have to do that on ANY set. PC's don't have an "auto-detect" capability. Rather, they have to be set to match the display's capabilities (Plasma, Multi-sync, etc). If someone read your statement they might think that you were able to change the TV set's settings via some type of menu and that is simply not an option.

One question for you though.... How, EXACTLY did other sets do this "auto-detect"? Are you talking a "just scan" mode?
post #29 of 195
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Originally Posted by ndabunka View Post

Huh? Are you talking about the menu on the PC? If so, than you would have to do that on ANY set. PC's don't have an "auto-detect" capability. Rather, they have to be set to match the display's capabilities (Plasma, Multi-sync, etc). If someone read your statement they might think that you were able to change the TV set's settings via some type of menu and that is simply not an option.

One question for you though.... How, EXACTLY did other sets do this "auto-detect"? Are you talking a "just scan" mode?

No. I was talking about the menu on the LG TV. Picture -> PC mode -> resolution -> 1360x768
post #30 of 195
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Originally Posted by starhusker View Post

No. I was talking about the menu on the LG TV. Picture -> PC mode -> resolution -> 1360x768

OK, makes more sense. Seems odd though. I wonder why wasn't it ALREADY on 1360x768? I mean, with that size screen, why would it be set to anything other than it's max? Maybe it's a factory default. Oh well, thanks anyway for the clarification
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