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post #1 of 13
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With the Paramount annoucement will a person eventually be able to order a Pay Per View movie title from Paramount and watch it full screen in simple IE (with Silverlight plug-in). That is hit Alt-Enter to go fullscreen and watch a movie title in HD-Lite (1280x720p24) with 5.1 surround audio?

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said Dr. Alan Bell, executive vice president and chief technology officer of Paramount Pictures. "With Silverlight DRM, Powered by PlayReady, Microsoft is bringing nearly a decade of heritage in DRM and content access to the table to deliver a solution with a strong technology foundation - allowing us to provide legal alternatives to our audiences enabling them to consume our content in whatever browser or platform they prefer."


I know that Silverlight seems to be aiming for more with Rich Interactive Applications (RIA) for the web, but it seems to me that once enough bandwidth to the user's PC and enough PC capability (CPU/GPU) is there, then the above could happen.
post #2 of 13
I have zero interest in watching a movie let alone an HD one on the computer. Now if they mean a simple box ("platform they prefer") such as vudu or AppleTV that connects to my display I'm interested. I'm not even interested in connecting a PC to the display... that's too costly, limiting and no fun. I tried that a few years back and got tired of carrying it all over the house.
post #3 of 13
I watch movies on my laptop frequently when I travel (airports/airplanes/hotels/cab rides, etc).

The PPV option sounds interesting, but I'm not sure how it would be different/better than the Netflix streaming (I am not that familiar with Silverlight unfortunately, so maybe that's just dumb statement on my part).
post #4 of 13
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Originally Posted by mproper View Post

I watch movies on my laptop frequently when I travel (airports/airplanes/hotels/cab rides, etc).

The PPV option sounds interesting, but I'm not sure how it would be different/better than the Netflix streaming (I am not that familiar with Silverlight unfortunately, so maybe that's just dumb statement on my part).

Does the Netflix do better than SD? I considering the capability of Silverlight right now going beyond Standard Definition. I've used Amazon Unbox some, but been disappointed with the mostly 2 chan sound and only SD video definition. Plus it is a clunky application, memory resident, often has startup problems on PC reboot, etc. I guess that is part of the price to pay for being able to order a title at a work PC to get pushed onto a home PC and ready to watch that evening.

Would think that IE with a plugin might be a lot simpler and easier.
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Originally Posted by bobgpsr View Post

Does the Netflix do better than SD? I considering the capability of Silverlight right now going beyond Standard Definition. I've used Amazon Unbox some, but been disappointed with the mostly 2 chan sound and only SD video definition. Plus it is a clunky application, memory resident, often has startup problems on PC reboot, etc. I guess that is part of the price to pay for being able to order a title at a work PC to get pushed onto a home PC and ready to watch that evening.

Would think that IE with a plugin might be a lot simpler and easier.

Netflix doesn't stream HD yet, but I assume it's coming. I honestly haven't used it much...just a couple times but the SD quality was acceptable for me watching it on the laptop with headphones.

I'm all for more options, just wasn't sure what Silverlight might offer that other services/products don't.
post #6 of 13
When you see Silverlight, think "Flash". They aren't identical but they are close enough. This may be quite effective, but I wonder at the reliability of the streaming. Perhaps I've just been scared off by YouTube.
post #7 of 13
I have a pretty strong feeling this will be included in media center/xbox soon.... seems silverlight was more designed to be on computer as much as on external devices. i doubt apple will be in any rush to license it but i could see vudu and others going for it.
post #8 of 13
From the Silverlight announcement in the news thread...

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Netflix has used Windows Media DRM 10 to protect the 7,000 choices of movies and TV episodes that our 7.5 million members can watch instantly on the PC," said Neil Hunt, chief product officer for Netflix. "We look forward to expanding platform coverage using Silverlight with PlayReady, which is expected to satisfy industry requirements for content protection and simplify and improve the end-user experience."

Not sure what that means in terms of upcoming products (i.e. the LG/Netflix box) but it looks as if Netflix is heading in that direction (mobile platforms?).

From last year (regarding PlayReady):

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Mobile seems the perfect medium for subscription music services, is it DRM issues that have held them back in the past?

Yeah, I think subscriptions are a very interesting business model, where there’s a critical need for content access technology. We prefer that term to DRM. Technically they’re the same thing, but content access technology really turns the lens around and focuses on the fact that what we’re doing is enabling interesting opportunities for consumers, and for operators to offer innovative services.

So for subscriptions, I think China Mobile has a ringtone subscription service where you pay a flat-rate fee, so rather than purchasing ringtones one at a time, you get access to unlimited ringtones for a flat monthly fee. That’s an example of a very interesting application of the subscription business model to something very popular like ringtones.
post #9 of 13
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Originally Posted by bobgpsr View Post

With the Paramount annoucement will a person eventually be able to order a Pay Per View movie title from Paramount and watch it full screen in simple IE (with Silverlight plug-in). That is hit Alt-Enter to go fullscreen and watch a movie title in HD-Lite (1280x720p24) with 5.1 surround audio?

(FYI, I'm now the video strategist for Silverlight)

Silverlight runs in Safari and Firefox as well as IE, and you normally double-click on the video to go full screen instead of Alt-Enter, but that stuff is working today. Silverlight 2 does stereo audio only, but we're certainly hearing the request for 5.1 for future versions.

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I know that Silverlight seems to be aiming for more with Rich Interactive Applications (RIA) for the web, but it seems to me that once enough bandwidth to the user's PC and enough PC capability (CPU/GPU) is there, then the above could happen.

Except for 5.1, Silverlight can do exactly that today. It's streaming, not download, but that's good enough for Netflix. Have you checked out any of the samples on my blog?
post #10 of 13
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Originally Posted by benwaggoner View Post

Except for 5.1, Silverlight can do exactly that today. It's streaming, not download, but that's good enough for Netflix. Have you checked out any of the samples on my blog?

Thanks for the reply Ben. I'll tryout your samples this weekend.

But for any movie which had an original soundtrack with more than stereo, I want multichannel sound. Surround audio is a big deal to me. I am not like the current mass market that is willing to use speakers built into a TV, instead I always disable them and use an AVR. Hence I hang out in internet home theater forums.
post #11 of 13
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Originally Posted by bobgpsr View Post

Thanks for the reply Ben. I'll tryout your samples this weekend.

But for any movie which had an original soundtrack with more than stereo, I want multichannel sound. Surround audio is a big deal to me. I am not like the current mass market that is willing to use speakers built into a TV, instead I always disable them and use an AVR. Hence I hang out in internet home theater forums.

No argument here; there's a reason we've had 7.1 96 KHz 24-bit audio in Windows Media for over half a decade. That's just not a feature supported in Silverlight 2 (well, it's supported in the sense that the files will play back, just folded down to stereo).
post #12 of 13
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Ben,

I tried your samples on your blog, especially the "What Happens in Vegas" one. Very nice video quality and smooth playback. Much nicer than the Fox trailer samples, but they did have very deep and powerfull bass.

So would full length move playback of two or three hours require Silverlight to use a Playlist for segments of the movie?
post #13 of 13
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Originally Posted by bobgpsr View Post

I tried your samples on your blog, especially the "What Happens in Vegas" one. Very nice video quality and smooth playback. Much nicer than the Fox trailer samples, but they did have very deep and powerfull bass.

"Vegas" was a bit lower peak bitrate, so if you're still on Silverlight 1 they may play better on lower-end machines. Silverlight 2 is getting a variety of performance enhancements, so that may be less of an issue.

I don't know why there would be any difference in bass. Maybe just the different trailers.

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So would full length move playback of two or three hours require Silverlight to use a Playlist for segments of the movie?

Nope. You can either use streaming, or off a web server using byte-range seeking. Windows Server 2008 fixed an issue in doing progressive download of > 4 GB files, so that's not an issue anymore.
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