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post #2461 of 2470
Sorry to be a nuisance, caught my son and nephew attempting to connect a PS3 to the above and they were in the Service Menu. I managed to stop them, but now the white balance is too "white" at certain times. Can anyone help me rectify this please?
post #2462 of 2470
You have to take it to a specialist. Call a TV technician/calibrator for advice.
post #2463 of 2470
In the user menu check the setting of picture mode, change it to Cinema and then lower the contrast to 60. If changes were made in the service menu, you will need a visit from a TV technician.
post #2464 of 2470
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Originally Posted by deaconr View Post
Sorry to be a nuisance, caught my son and nephew attempting to connect a PS3 to the above and they were in the Service Menu. I managed to stop them, but now the white balance is too "white" at certain times. Can anyone help me rectify this please?
Found this by Google, http://www.***************.com/showt...post/last/m/1/

05-03-08 01:59 PM - Post#846063


To access the Panasonic service menu for these plasmas (and possibly most other models):

Hold Volume Down on the TV
Press Info on the remote 3 times

You should then see the Service Menu come up on the screen.

Sometimes you have to do this a couple times.

STeve
post #2465 of 2470
Quote:
Originally Posted by roberteyewhy View Post
According to him, Color in the SM adjust the total overall color.



This was posted by Elwaylite after the above.



ElwayLite posted this before the professional calibration and with the tools available to him. Sorry, cannot locate the thread.

Before:

Rcut 80
Gcut 80
Bcut 80

Rdr F9
Gdr FC
Bdr D7


After:

Rcut 79
Gcut 79
Bcut 80

Rdr F6
Gdr F3
Bdr A3

Allcut 80
All drive F6

AVfile Service Menu settings:

Cinema Warm

CUTs: all 80 (no change)
ALL-DRV: FC (no change)
R-DRV: E9 (was ED)
G-DRV: FF (was FC)
B-DRV: 89 (was A5)

Contrast: 000 (no change)
Color: 43 (was 3D)
TINT: 00 (was 03)
Sub-Brt: 7FE (was 800)

With these settings I ran Cinema mode at default (simply press RESET in the user menu) and reduced Contrast to 62 (could go a bit higher if needed but never above 90). No mucking around with any other user settings.

As you can see I raised green to the limit, reduced red a bit, and reduced blue a lot! This was done to match my ISF calibrated Pioneer CRT's white balance and flesh tones (fixed the typical "red face" problem in warm mode). It also agrees with the professional reviews that declared warm mode still a bit cooler than the D65 standard.
I can't believe we've had this TV for 3 years. It is not in my main system but has been working well.

I decided to recalibrate it last night, for no particular reason other than desire to play with my CalMan Chroma5. I found the BLUE had dropped in intensity about 20% resulting in a warm (<6000k) picture. I had to raise B-DRV many clicks and fiddle with some of the other DRV & CUTs. Brightness also had to come down a few ticks. I use Cinema mode with contrast (picture) at 60.

It looks better than ever now - very nice color and depth! Only shortcoming I can see is the red push.

 

PannyZ80_60%_report.pdf 103.0234375k . file
post #2466 of 2470
Quote by AVfile, "I can't believe we've had this TV for 3 years. It is not in my main system but has been working well."

I agree! Never had a problem. Planning on getting the ST30.

Robert
post #2467 of 2470
Hi Guys,

I decided to get more serious about calibrating my 2 pannys. I decide to use my PZ80U as my first test. First thing I did was to go in to the service menu to work on my grayscale and gamma.
I decided to use the Custom profile and Normal temperature.
After getting in just right (see pdf below), I decided to wrap it up exit the service menu and go back to regular tv mode.
I selected the same Custom Profile and Color Temperature and took measurements. The grayscale and gamma were completely off. I reset the profile, but had no luck. I did a master reset but no luck either.
When I went back to the service menu, my calibrated settings were there and remeasuring gave me the calibrated grayscale and gamma.
From what I can tell, the changes on the color temperature I made as well as the other settings used in the service menu are not getting carried over to the user settings. Not sure if this is an issue or just me being a noob; in any case, I hope I get some help from the guys that recently calibrated their units.

I am including a couple of pdfs: the same profiles and color temperatures: one from the service menu and the other from the user settings.

 

Grayscale Calibrated Service Menu.pdf 193.0615234375k . file

 

Grayscale Calibrated User Menu.pdf 191.767578125k . file
post #2468 of 2470
Quote:
Originally Posted by isisyodin View Post

Hi Guys,

I decided to get more serious about calibrating my 2 pannys. I decide to use my PZ80U as my first test. First thing I did was to go in to the service menu to work on my grayscale and gamma.
I decided to use the Custom profile and Normal temperature.
After getting in just right (see pdf below), I decided to wrap it up exit the service menu and go back to regular tv mode.
I selected the same Custom Profile and Color Temperature and took measurements. The grayscale and gamma were completely off. I reset the profile, but had no luck. I did a master reset but no luck either.
When I went back to the service menu, my calibrated settings were there and remeasuring gave me the calibrated grayscale and gamma.
From what I can tell, the changes on the color temperature I made as well as the other settings used in the service menu are not getting carried over to the user settings. Not sure if this is an issue or just me being a noob; in any case, I hope I get some help from the guys that recently calibrated their units.

I am including a couple of pdfs: the same profiles and color temperatures: one from the service menu and the other from the user settings.

I have noticed this on my 50PZ80U also. When in the service menu be sure to select the mode and color temperature setting. 9 changes the mode, 7 changes the color temp.

The only way I've managed to set the gray scale is to make a change to the cuts or drives, exit the service menu, and measure again. Somehow this seems wrong, but measuring while in the service menu does not have the same effect as measuring outside the service menu.

I have not tried resetting the video from the user menu.

There is a "method" setting, from 00 to 03, 03 being the default, but I have no idea what it does.

I have also noticed the black levels on this set have increased quite dramatically since new, 0.027 new to 0.063 at 1100 hours.
post #2469 of 2470
Yes I have selected the proper profile and temperature with the 9 and 7 keys respectively.
I was afraid this would be the case... what a pain specially since exiting the service menu requires turning off the tv.
I am sure this was not the intended functionality but possibly a bug in the firmware which takes me to another question then (hoping for a better solution). Where can I find the firmware for this TV other than calling a service person?
My firmware has never been updated, so maybe there is something new which may correct this behavior.
Please send me a PM if you have anything for the TH-50PZ80U.

I have also noticed a few other settings that I am unsure what they do:
Method = 00 (as you stated)
Contrast Ymax = 000
Color = 3D
Tint = 03
Sub-Brt = 800

Are this possibly max values?

Cheers
post #2470 of 2470
Quote:
Originally Posted by isisyodin View Post

I have also noticed a few other settings that I am unsure what they do:
Method = 00 (as you stated)
Contrast Ymax = 000
Color = 3D
Tint = 03
Sub-Brt = 800

Are this possibly max values?

I used the last 3 to set color, tint, and brightness in the service menu such that they stay at the defaults (for Cinema mode) in the user menu.

Color = 43
Tint = 01
Sub-Brt = 7FE
Cont = 000


I don't know what the others do so I left them alone.
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